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My understanding is that the new law now requires every serialized thing that constitutes a firearm to be registered.

Does this sound right?
 
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Even Krauts turned stupid?


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Just like UK, where you have do a variation for a new silencer.
 
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All firearms and main parts (silencers) were previously registered at the local firearms police office any ways.

The new legislation (1 September) is geared more towards tracking where forearms are and are more cumbersome on the gun trade than private persons.

Each gun owner, trader, manufacturer etc must now apply for a national firearms ID number and each weapon is listed on that with a ref number. If you take one of your guns to a gunsmith for repairs for example, he / they must register that the gun is held with them. If they sell a new or used gun they will need to register the gun, the seller and the buyer with the new ID numbers.

Basically MORE CONTROL of legally held and traded firearms implemented and driven by the Greens and the antis.....

More concerning to me is the push against lead ammo in shotguns and rifles in Europe. If that goes through thousands and thousands of classic and historically fantastic shotguns and rifles will become obsolete over night!

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The US military in Germany now have to register all serialized parts.

So if a bolt (R8, 404, 202, R93, whatever) has it's own serial it has to be on the WBK the same as the rest of the rifle.

At least that is the way I interpret what the American Rod and Gun clubs are saying.
 
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This could be a major hassle. Swedish mausers, for example, have serial numbers on almost every part, firing pins, rear sights, stocks, butt plates, several bolt parts, barrels, floor plates, nose caps, etc. Probably some sporting arms follow a similar practice.
 
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What’s wrong with people/politicians?
As usual, protecting criminals is the way to go


" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins.
When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar.
Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan
PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move...

Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies...
Only fools hope to live forever
“ Hávamál”
 
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Germans have some weird ideas on gun laws. A friend of ours came over from Germany on vacation a couple of years ago + when he saw that I had a pistol lying on a table in my shop he said, "If I were at home in Germany it would be my duty to report you to the police for having a weapon." And this was a friend on vacation.


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NC, Thats maybe a bit extreme "report to police" etc but you certainly cannot leave a gun laying around the house or the car in Germany thats for sure! That would cost you your license!

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I'm only repeating what he said. I haven't been to Germany since the early 60s but I'm sure it has changed drastically.


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In Sweden you have to have a licence if you have extra barrels, action, or , bolt parts (and full firearms).
 
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Sad part is, you guys allow your own politicians you vote in to do that to you
We are lucky in US that we have 2nd amendment but it is still a fight because even here politicians want that to happen here


" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins.
When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar.
Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan
PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move...

Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies...
Only fools hope to live forever
“ Hávamál”
 
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In Sweden you have to have a licence if you have extra barrels, action, or , bolt parts (and full firearms).


Does that mean if you had, say, a switch-barrel Sauer 202, you would need permission ahead of time to buy an extra barrel in a different caliber?
 
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Originally posted by Nordic2:
In Sweden you have to have a licence if you have extra barrels, action, or , bolt parts (and full firearms).


Same as here.
 
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"Does that mean if you had, say, a switch-barrel Sauer 202, you would need permission ahead of time to buy an extra barrel in a different caliber?"

Yes you need a permission to buy a barrel but doesnt count as a whole rifle in 6 six gun max "hunting cabinet" which are the limit for most hunters.
 
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"Does that mean if you had, say, a switch-barrel Sauer 202, you would need permission ahead of time to buy an extra barrel in a different caliber?"

Yes you need a permission to buy a barrel but doesnt count as a whole rifle in 6 six gun max "hunting cabinet" which are the limit for most hunters.


Thanks for the clarification. Done any roebuck hunting this season?
 
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What the hell is wrong with you guys over in Europe
What a great continent and great people and nobody has got balls to stand up to these nazi politicians
Pretty sad world


" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins.
When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar.
Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan
PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move...

Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies...
Only fools hope to live forever
“ Hávamál”
 
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"Does that mean if you had, say, a switch-barrel Sauer 202, you would need permission ahead of time to buy an extra barrel in a different caliber?"

Yes you need a permission to buy a barrel but doesnt count as a whole rifle in 6 six gun max "hunting cabinet" which are the limit for most hunters.


My jagdschein allowed me to buy as many rifles and shotguns as I wanted, and 2 pistols. I could have 3 pistols if I had a trapping license and one was a 22LR.

You did not have to ask persmission to buy another firearm.

Sport shooters were much more limited, but I never cared to research about what they could do. As I didn't shoot competitions. They are very limited on what they can own, and quantities.
 
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I would add that every barrel or new firearm would have to be registered individually within 7 days of purchase to your firearm possession card and local government.

US Military have to register through the office in Sembach. Which in tern goes to another Germany office in Berlin (I beleive).
 
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"Thanks for the clarification. Done any roebuck hunting this season?"

No i haven`t done any roebuck hunting this year my area are not so good for roe.

"I could have 3 pistols if I had a trapping license and one was a 22LR."

Its possible to have a .22rl pistol for trap or den hunting in sweden but its not many who has got a permit.

Competition rifles, shotguns, pistols can you have as many you can explain a need for. Normally its difficult to explain a need for more than 10 handguns, you have to be a member of a shooting/competition organisation who gives you a paper to show your need (what competition you have taken part of).
 
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Nordic, we moved to back to the USA about a 18 months ago. So I have only hunted the peccaries and Barbary sheep that live here in New Mexico.

I have wapiti tags for October though.
 
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