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I'm actually getting a couple of questions answered with this one question. I'm pretty bad about having all the pieces without being able to see the big picture. I'm getting that feeling now.






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I'm actually getting a couple of questions answered with this one question. I'm pretty bad about having all the pieces without being able to see the big picture. I'm getting that feeling now.


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That was what I was thinking. No matter how much of it I put in the case it just won't get used efficiently. Is that about right?






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You need a faster burning powder with the 458. Low velocity at best.


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I have a ton of this stuff. I was thinking maybe it would run my 350s at about 2200fps, and still get some accuracy out of it.


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You need a faster burning powder with the 458. Low velocity at best.






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I saw some published velocities with 4831 and 500gr bullet at about 1300fps.


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Wow. That's slow. I have 4895 too, it's faster. About halfway to RE7.

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I saw some published velocities with 4831 and 500gr bullet at about 1300fps.






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. 4895 is a fairly good powder in the 458 Win , but it is a bit slow still ,,,, . You may get some very good loads with it tho ... 4198 , Re 7 AAC 2015 Br and AAC 2230 .are all very good 458 powders .. tho the faster powders do best with the light bullets I usually shoot .......... As a rule if its a good 223 powder it,s a good 458 powder ..

What happens when you use 4831 in a 458 , The bullets go real slow.......... However that in no way makes it not very useful ....A 350 plus gr 458 bullet @ 1000 fps and up is great for lots of stuff ... As long as you can hit something with them ...


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Now , this question is the important part. With a slow powder like the 4895, it can't get up to pressure in this case, so you can't get velocity. But with a faster powder, reduced loads would be needed, or the gun would blow up.
Do I have this right?

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. 4895 is a fairly good powder in the 458 Win , but it is a bit slow still ,,,, . You may get some very good loads with it tho ... 4198 , Re 7 AAC 2015 Br and AAC 2230 .are all very good 458 powders .. tho the faster powders do best with the light bullets I usually shoot .......... As a rule if its a good 223 powder it,s a good 458 powder ..

What happens when you use 4831 in a 458 , The bullets go real slow.......... However that in no way makes it not very useful ....A 350 plus gr 458 bullet @ 1000 fps and up is great for lots of stuff ... As long as you can hit something with them ...






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Partly right ......Check the Hogdon Reloading site ... ... There are lots of loads shown and the data will give you a clearer view of how the different speed powders work ...


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