I want to start playing around with a 577 T-Rex, and was wondering is anyone has any cases, ammo, or other components available. I posted in the Classifieds, but thought I'd mention it here as well, as it certainly falls in the Big Bore category!...Biebs

You might want to call Art at A Square. He usually returns calls from his answering service with in a day or two. He was very helpful with a problem I had with a 500 A Square.

Oh Jon say it a is'nt so!

Good for you!!!!

Ed, Always wanted one, and got a good price on a like-new one, so why not. Hard to beat 750gr @ 2,460, but I think I'll load it down to 2,250 or so...like a strong 577 NE, but easier to scope and a bit easier to shoot.

email the folks at www.custombrassandbullets.com and ask them if they still have the brass .. hawk, barnes, woodleigh, and I think alaska bullet works makes a .585

and the 600 OK is more powerful, and can be built on a better action

God I hope its not a A-square gun. Railroad ties compare favorably with their wood quality and handling characteristics.
You'd be better off with a 585 AHR or 585/.600OK.-Rob

Guys, I have a 700 AHR..started by Ed and finished by Wayne a few months ago. Great rifle...Granite Mountain action, beautiful wood, quarter rib, dovetails for mounting a scout or conventional scope in Talleys, jeweled bolt and follower, 3-panel engraved bolt, Jumbo engraved on the floorplate, just like I wanted it.

The 577 A-Square is just a fun gun. I don't have much into it, and I've had 7 or 8 A-Square rifles before, from 6.5-06 to 500 A2. They handle recoil well, and are one of the most accurate big-bores I've shot.

Tommy decided to keep his new Bijou being finished up by Mike now, so I thought I'd pick up this rifle instead.

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
God I hope its not a A-square gun. Railroad ties compare favorably with their wood quality and handling characteristics.

Not to be a hopeless barbarian, but my A2 fits me very well; maybe I'm built like an orangutan, but it works for me. The wood is also slightly better than the average railroad tie.



That said there were several things that I would consider unacceptable in a custom rifle. A poor trigger pull and iron sights that wouldn't shoot to point of impact. Then again, I paid a reasonable price for my rifle and think it a great bargain for what I paid. I've slowly fixed the original faults and am now very happy.

I like the A-Squares also, especially in the big calibers. If you look at the butt end, and see the surface area compared to a regular rifle, you'll see why a 458 feels like a 300 Win Mag.

I have to say that my 500 A Square has a factory wood stock, not the prettiest gun in the world by far, but the wood is not all that bad. They weren't meant to be beautiful rifles, just good working rifles. I do prefer my green synthetic stock with black spider web design over the wood stock. Biebs, have you seen any new pics of Tommy's new 600 yet??

No, he's keeping it now, so I don't want to look at it!!!!!

Robgunbuilder, it's hard to argue with your view that the A-Square Hannibal is less than beautiful, and not exactly what Jeff Cooper would have called "handy." A Steyr Scout it ain't.

BUT:
1. Build quality is excellent;
2. The P17 military action is hell for stout, very reliable, and quite slick; and,
3. The felt recoil reduction design and technology REALLY works.

Fine value, too. But not everybody's cup of tea.

Gents
I disagree on the quaility "merits" you raise, but that's why there are horseraces.


wpsuth, I disagree with all 3 of your points..
the build quality is functional, bordering on good.

the p17 is LONG, not any more stout than any
mauser or springfield, which is the SOLE reason (note, perhaps the relative CHEAPNESS of these actions had something to do with it?) for selection. "

and the HUGE stock +absurd weight are factors in recoil reduction. case in point.. inlet a railroad tie, shape with a chainsaw, and use 2 earthshoe soles for a recoil pad, and the "technology" will also reduce recoil, for the same reason .. Of course, a straight stock, weight 10% forward, a merc tube, and good shooting technique ALSO reduce felt recoil, without looking UGLY

enjoy shooting!

AHR can make you a 600 OK on a cz action, with a good stock design, more power, and LOOK like a hunting rifle, for about the same money as a new one ...

your money, your choice, thats the way i see it

But not for $3K

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Originally posted by Biebs:
But not for $3K

fair enough .. though mcgowen will cut and install a barrel for under 1K, would ber hard to get to 2k, on your stock, and it would be 10X the QUALITY of the above.

my old man used to tell me, "you get what you pay for, if you are lucky"

I bet AHR could rebarrel your 416 rigby to 600 OK, for not much different than 3k .. AND the brass is available

just saying there's several ways to do this one... and buying an ugly rifle for 3K wouldn't be my first choice ... but, then again, I can make my own ugly rifles, and have, even off enfields!
jeffe

Jeff, Already having one of Wayne's fine 700 AHRs, I needed something for a "light" rifle !!!

Same responses in every .585/.620 thread...

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Originally posted by Biebs:
I want to start playing around with a 577 T-Rex...

"and the 600 OK is more powerful, and can be built on a better action"

"You'd be better off with a 585 AHR or 585/.600OK"

To be honest, I was never impressed with the T-Rex mostly because it was made by A-square( with whom I had some bad dealings) and components were tough to find even 10 years ago. They sold for about 3K then and 3K now. For me, It was actually a good lesson in what not to do in a serious big bore. Trust me, I shot one T-rex extensively and no the design and execution is not very good IMHO. With that said, If it goes bang and floats your boat, then enjoy it. At least they are not common.-Rob

On a .7" bolt I think the 3" version of the 585 HE is the best compromise. Ed made some with his special brass and made it from 600 OK brass too. Can work in a 375HH length action.

Below is Ed's post and the pic

Here is comparison picture of my 585 and shorter
cases for Boomie. First is 3" case made from
Gibbs with real straight sides. 2nd is a
3" version with base same as my long one,
that is made from OK brass, 3rd is
3" one made by shortening my 585 long
case, 4th is my long case,
5th is the 2.7 585 Short Mag Express.
I can get cases to make my long one and 3"
from it cheaper than getting the other case
that only makes 3", but I can only
make a small number, so we need a run made.
We all can have the length we want when a
run of cases gets done.Ed

Could 585HE, 585Nyati, 577 Trex, or 600 OK be built on the Savage 220 action?

My 585HE can I think unless Savage really down scaled, but guys
say the pictures show it is nearly like the 12ga 210. Of which
I've put 12GA FH in , my 700HE in, and it works ok.Ed

Sounds like my new project!

The 700 DA, or shorter, perhaps, should fit just fine in a savage 210.. and at DA, not HE, velocities, you won't have near the bolt thrust or pressure ...

same for the 577 BME