Four of the infinite seatings of this bullet to soon begin accuracy and velocity trials in the .398 Lapua Mag.: .395/325-grain S&H Ripper aka "SHarlow"

I've been screwing around with these Golf Ball looking designs of late and forgot how pretty that bullet looks loaded, unloaded, boxed, etc. Very excited to see the results down range....

I'll shoot them this weekend, weather permitting.
Forward and backward, I'll see which way they are most accurate.

It will be interesting to compare the drop at 100 yards and 300 Yards, and calculate a BC number, forward and backward.

Then the .395/310gr VeloSHark BC will be estimated, and the stated GSC BC's for the .395/340gr SP and HV compared, from my currently limited supply.

Both S&H 330-grain brass FN and GSC 340-grain copper FN need to be compared in the Iron Water Buffalo for penetration.

The "GSC Trio" and the "S&H Unholy Trinity" will go head to toe.

The rifle for this one is a CZ with fairly heavy barrel, same as the Tatanka, stainless 26", 1:12" TWIST, about .705" muzzle diameter. Another shop mule, gee-ing and haw-haw-ing on the way to perfection. Scope could be 4-16X S&B P&M in 34mm tube with Badger rings, or a 1" tubed Leupold target scope of similar power in CZ, Warne, or Talley rings, or Leupold QRW ... I have two systems of scope bases for the picking.

The .398 Lapua Mag. was actually conceived before any other modern day .395, and was the instigator of .395 caliber rebirth ... going pretty slow at taking over the world.

I love comparison tests!!!

Need to develop some sort of ultimate destructivity indicator test.

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Originally posted by Macifej:
... Need to develop some sort of ultimate destructivity indicator test.

Might that be percentage of one-shot kills?
No that would depend more on the hunter than the rifle.
.395 Tatanka Dakota and .398 Lapua Mag. CZ (Don't look Ethel!):

What is that? A whale hide duvet cover with original harpoon holes showing?

That is the soft side of the Tatanka robe that I wear when it gets cold. It has some wear and tear on it. Maybe some coffee and bourbon stains too: www.buffalotrace.com

Beware the man with one gun, and also the nut with 100 guns and a bottle of Buffalo Trace.

There ya go taunting me with Exotic booze again!!

Dang It!!

Fortunately for me I have two bottle of Razeputz on the way from our Danish pal!

Its the extreme boat tail flat nose that has me in suspense...

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Originally posted by boom stick:
Its the extreme boat tail flat nose that has me in suspense...

Yes, that one needs to be tested in the IWB penetration-meter too: Dart stablization from hell, shoulder stabilized, supercavitating superpenetrator... or will it flop?

As Macifej's Green-Peace-Lesbian-Sea-Kayaker-PETA-friend with the Rolex watch on his wrist said as he fingered an S&H Ripper bullet:
"Poor animals."

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www.buffalotrace.com

Mmmmm. A common spirit to be found at my Pa's bison ranch. We're not usually bourbon drinkers per se, but how could one not enjoy a Buffalo Trace at a buffalo ranch???

Cheers,
Canuck

Yep! I could use a shot or five of that suff to mask the after taste of the bucket of Sasquatch Jambalaya I just ate!!

A good bourbon? Now that I'm all in favor of. (ooh the shame of it, prof ending a sentence with a preposition)
I'm also in favor of Rip's testing in the IWB. I've got my order in for .395 bullets at GSC. We'll finally have the "final" word on SHark bullets and GSC's.

Max,
The Buffalo Trace works great in your .395 Shot Glass. Tastes better than Wild Turkey too.
I think that should be the .395 Club adult beverage: Buffalo Trace.

I'll mail you a set of 400/.395NE dies if they ever get back from heat treatment. I cannot promise when the smith will have my rifle done and you can borrow the reamer.

.395 Tatanka Dakota and .398 Lapua Mag. CZ,
Notice that I am using the Satterlee Technique in sanding and painting the MPI stock on the Dakota: I have not done a thing to it for the last 7 months, "work in progress" aka WIP, wipping it out Satterlee style.

RIP-

I've followed your progress, and I know you've posted this before, but what are your expected ballistics with the tatanka and the lapua. Thanks... an intriguing idea.

Despite my continued ardor everytime I look at one of my 400/.395 cartridges, I know that patience is a virtue. I am going to order some of that Buffalo Trace from my local Liquor store.
By the way, have not found the tall shot glasses to make them up for your "no longer obsolete" round. When I do, I'll be sending them out, also.
Max

ADDED: Just talked to my liquor store and it will be in tomorrow! Will taste and see.

400 Nitro Express...

Making Game Animals Obsolete one at a time.

maddenwh,
The Lapua and Tatanka ballpark is 2800 to 2900 fps with 325 to 340-grainers.
The 310-grain VeloSHark Velopex load should be 2900 to 3000 fps in 26" barrels.

Happy Hunting loads with either Lapua or Tatanka will be about 2750 fps with all of the 310 to 340-grain bullets.

The 325-grain S&H Ripper and the 340-grain GSC SP will be pushed to max velocity for long range target work.

Wow. I real pee shooter in the works. An excellent squirrel gun to be. Thanks for the specs... looking forward to hearing the rest of it's development and performance.

Are the 340's the heaviest-for-cal you'll be loading...i.e. will you have a DG load developed for thick skinned game (although a 340 grained bullet at 2,700 fps is probably sufficient)?

This started off with Gerard of GSC agreeing to make a .395 bullet. North Fork turned me down. Gerard designed a bullet trio of 340-grains for a copper FN solid, a copper HV spitzer-hollowpoint, and a VLD copper SP, all of 340-grain weight. I requested same weight of around .3 SD, he came up with the weight based on stability factors and such, so all three would work for intended purposes.

This is actually the only such "trio" of same weight bullets of the same caliber that GSC offers!

Gerard has designed them to work perfectly in the 1:12" twist barrels that I got Harry McGowen started on, and McGowen Precision Barrels, LLC continues to make.

That 340-grain .395 has an SD of .311, more than enough bullet weight.

Think of Saeed with his .375/300gr Walterhog with SD = .305 at 2750 fps. Nothing more is needed to kill any game animal well.

410-grain cast lead bullets will be especially effective at 2150 fps from any of the .395's, but mainly in the 400/.395NE.

In fact, I would venture to say that anything heavier than 340-grains would be less effective in the monometal designs that are the modern way to do bullets.

Macifej walked right into the void and filled it with monometal brass bullets of 310, 325, and 330-grain weight, while we wait for GSC to get .395's here in bigger quantities.

I will do serious accuracy and velocity testing when I have proper dies, hopefully within the month. Time to call Redding again ...

I ordered the Satterlee action originally meaning to do the .395 Tatanka on it.
Stuart Satterlee's Daddy's shop was within eye-shot of Kevin Costner's Tatanka Center there in Deadwood, SD.
That is just a curious coincidence. I was already calling the Rigby version "Tatanka" before a Satterlee action was just a shadow in my mind.

DaRippa! Will be most interesting to see at full pressure and 300 + yards.....

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Think of Saeed with his .375/300gr Walterhog with SD = .305 at 2750 fps. Nothing more is needed to kill any game animal well.

Agreed. Didn't realize that the SD would be that good. Might turn out to be a great all=arounder or a one gun battery for a trip to Africa, Alaska, or anywheres you might roam.

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Originally posted by maddenwh:
... Might turn out to be a great all=arounder or a one gun battery for a trip to Africa, Alaska, or anywheres you might roam.

That is the idea.
Gerard described it as "The thinking man's caliber."

Various .395 bullets with weights and SD just for fun (the .396 cast bullet is .395 when it leaves the barrel):

300-gr B-Max: .275
310-gr VeloSHark: .284
325-gr S&H Ripper: .298
330-gr S&H Brass FN: .302
340-gr GSC HV, FN, SP: .311
410-gr LBT LFN GC Cast: .375

RIP, I sent you a PM with a question.

Dave

Dangit! The .398 Lapua Mag. will require neck inside reaming/outside turning due to the thick Lapua brass and dreaded donutz!!!
The .395 Tatanka with the same neck dimensions in chamber works fine with Norma .416 Rigby brass necked down to .395.

I have some BeLL/MAST basic cylindrical .416 Rigby brass with blank headstamp that is going to be engraved: .395 Tatanka

Redding dies for the .395T should be in hand anyday now.

Then I'll let'er Rip.

Got some paint for the stock on the Tatanka.

I will soon be in The Long Grass.

Got that sparkleee paint leftover from a LA Lo-Lo job??

Uh, Guys? I got my bottle of Buffalo Trace bourbon on Friday. Tried a taste test with my normal bourbons, Jack Daniels and Maker's Mark. Buffalo Trace can be the whiskey for the .395 crowd, but I want to use it only with Coca-Cola. Sorry.

Bookers, Hirsh 15 (20 if yer lucky)or Pappy Van Winkle 12, 15 and 20 year is where its at

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Originally posted by prof242:
Uh, Guys? I got my bottle of Buffalo Trace bourbon on Friday. Tried a taste test with my normal bourbons, Jack Daniels and Maker's Mark. Buffalo Trace can be the whiskey for the .395 crowd, but I want to use it only with Coca-Cola. Sorry.

aroo, shaggy, did you say Maker's Mark. ???

that's ME

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Originally posted by prof242:
Uh, Guys? I got my bottle of Buffalo Trace bourbon on Friday. Tried a taste test with my normal bourbons, Jack Daniels and Maker's Mark. Buffalo Trace can be the whiskey for the .395 crowd, but I want to use it only with Coca-Cola. Sorry.

What a sissy! Or just a "Space Cadet?"
Obviously no appreciation of the finest of bourbon.

Your choice of cartridges proves you have outstanding taste in that area. I agree whole heartedly with most of your opinions.
On Buffalo Trace...well, lets just agree to disagree. Oh, and I think your choice of Wild Turkey is good too.

Is there really such a thing as good Bourban??

Pappy Van Winkle 23, and Wild Turkey Rare Breed

Mac...

Buy a bottle of Bookers and let me know what you think...

I'm saving my booze credits for the two bottles of Ratzeputz which are inbound to me from a friend in Northern Europe.

$70 at a decent liquor store...

I could send you a shot...I still have a little left.

Store is a couple blocks from me. Not the dollar credits I'm saving it's the consumption credits.

Kiss my grits!