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I handled a hawkeye rifle the other day... I went in, meaning to buy a 308 Steyr pro hunter, and ordered a Ruger Alaskan in 375 Ruger instead. Any advice on bullet choices, etc? I'm hoping that Knoxx will be releasing a compstock insert for it soon, until then, I'll be using my superior shooting pad while shooting it. I have no intention of hunting DG -- I prefer to hunt things I like to eat... But, I also don't want to go chasing after some animal that hasn't realized that it's dead yet. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. | ||
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well, if all 375s were invented at teh same time, and I didn't produce a 375 AR (LOL), then it would be the "best" of them all.. standard action larger than a 375HH larger than a 375Weatherby standard case head should feed fine and can take 300gr bullets to 2500fps EASY get some TSX bullets, light for caliber, for normal american game, at distance or 300gr RN softs for serious upclose work jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I think the new Ruger Hawkeye 375 is one of - if not the - best, most practical, factory built rifle avaliable today. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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I too am interested in it in the no-nonsense stainless. Sounds like a real go-to rig, CFR and all. The 20" barrel concerns me though. Do any of the experts here think it is worth waiting for a longer barrel in stainless? I assume Ruger will come up with more variations in a couple years (or drop it  ). I already have most bases covered in blued firearms. | |||
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+1 Phil, I look forward to your results w/ the 350 Woodleighs. GVA | |||
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Well, if the comments have to be useful and I have to be polite, I'm not playing. Although I think it is a great case for a nice 423 bore cartridge. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Aglifter, Try the Nosler 260 grain (Partition) bullet. Excellent velocities for longer shots at elk. However, and I sound like a broken record here, the TSX bullets shoot more accurately out of my gun, and I keep having positive experiences with them. Good choice of rifle. Shoot something big! Garrett | |||
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Maybe too much to affirm so...but I agree that at least on the paper and for the reports that are available it seems to be a very well balanced cartridge. But time will tell, as always. The .480 Ruger went south despite being a sound design and promoted by a major gunmaker. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | |||
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I've owned a Ruger 375 African since mid-February and love the rifle. The 23" barrel delivers good velocities, close to the published factory speeds. It is a handfull when touched off; the Ruger recoil pad isn't adaquate...too thin. Mine shoots factory 270s MOA and my reloads just a tad better, but not much. I would like to get a SS version one of these times in 375, and I'd probably sell the African as soon as Ruger brings out the 416 Ruger in it, then buy the 416. I have three safes full of good firearms, and the Ruger 375 fits right in. | |||
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As with the case of most new cartridges, their usefullness will depend on their ability to perform in areas where the competition can't. Ruger is pretty brave going after the 375 market with the 375 H&H, 378 wby and of course the 375 RUM. I think that anyone who buys the newest 375 will have a decent game getter, and will hope their is always supplies of ammo and/or components. John | |||
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I'm rechambering, and buying one right now. I can put it right next to my 480 Ruger Alaskan... OH, no more guns or ammo??? Morons are running Ruger... GS | |||
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At least the current batch of "morons" did their homework as to what PH's and serious wilderness hunters are looking for. I have two - an African and an Alaskan - and don't plan on $ending either back to Ruger. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Yeah... or, perhaps, the company was sold to better management.... opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Well I would add my .02 for the Nosler 260 Partition bullet or the Barnes TSX. If it is a true 375 then these bullets have proven themselves for me and many other hunters as reliable and deadly. Now the only problem....I can't find one of the silly things! I'm just weird enough that I need to fondle a smokepole before I'm willing to buy one. As usual it will take a while before my local candy emporium can keep one in stock. Most people are bothered by those portions of Scripture they do not understand, it is the passages I do understand that bother me. (Twain) | |||
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Yep, all the desirable features the 375/338 (Taylor)  except the ammo is harder to get & a lot more $  ."You can lead a horticulture, ... but you can't make 'er think" Florida Gardener | |||
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  sorry that is as nice and polite as i can be on the subject | |||
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As to the Ruger rifle.....well it's my nice and polite opinion they really don't make anything but handguns! as to the cartridge.....this might be the first time ever I'd disagree with Butchloc.....it's a long time a coming and well worth the wait. I'm very high on it and expect to see it grow into a replacement for the entire magnum series of cartridges! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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LOL.. why's that butch? sure, it's a new round... but it hasn't done anything WRONG, just doesn't please everyone opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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As to the Ruger rifle.....well it's my nice and polite opinion they really don't make anything but handguns! QUOTE] Vapodog. Then what the heck have I´ve been hunting with those last 20 years... doorstoppers ?  Joke aside...I disagree from the bottom of my heart. Ruger make good working guns as far as I´m concerned. Arild Iversen. | |||
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I really like the rifle and I handled one in 338 Federal a couple days ago. I will have one soon. (338 Federal) | |||
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I own 9 Ruger rifles and love them all. I handled the Hawkeye African at the SCI convention in Reno last January. Opted to go with the African due to the 23" barrel and I'm kinda partial to wood. (old fashioned, I know). Called my gun dealer from the Ruger booth and ordered one. Shot 300 gr rounds and it does match the Ruger advertised specs. No problems whatsoever and the price was great. Put a 1 1/2 x 5 on it and taking to RSA in July with no qualms at all. Can't find brass for it yet, so that means I have to shoot more to get my brass to reload with. Darn. Trophyman Benefactor Member NRA SCI California Rifle & Pistol Assoc. Drive a 69 Chevelle SS396 | |||
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a bit of a story on my opinion. a few years ago i had don allen make up a matched pair of rifles. one in 375 dakota and the other in 416 dakota. Fill with extras they are one beautiful paid, but on a trip to zambia for lion i had taken my 470 and the 375 dakota. delta screwed up the baggage and the bag with ammo didn't arrive. I was able to find one box of 470's in joberg, but the dakota of course was impossible. I would have had a lion with the scoped 375, but the irons on the 470 and my old eyes weren't up to the near dark task. If it would have been a 375 H&H i'd have had the lion, but instead i was out about 35,000. Now just how long does anyone think it's going to be before the 375 ruger ammo is available in africa, alaska etc. It is a good round, and in fact very very similar to the dakota, but if you're going away on an airplane, you do have to think about things going wrong,. | |||
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Butch, fair enough... and just like alot of calibers, unless it's a shelf staple in africa, you aren't going to get a box of it... for example, 577NE could NOT be had, for any price, from tanz to cape town, in 2004... not a single 5 pack in 1/10 of the world's surface... but it's a fine fine round.. and the 375 dak is also a fine round... more like a (didn't build it) 375 AR than a 375 ruger, but good enough. but, the ruger hasn't done anything "bad" and lives up to "book"... i'll have one.. have the action and barrel waiting, actually. jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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el jeffe... is it possible to make a "375 a.r." by using rum brass and 375 dakota dies and reamer??? use a diff. shell holder and you have an inexpensive 375 dakota with a std .532" bolt. basicly a 375 vom hofe super express with a reduced rebate of .532 instead of .511??? the same could be done if doable with he 7mm, 300, 330 and 404 versions. you can have that 338 varnmit round you have been wanting at 1/4 the price. dakota could be the parent of the medium bore a.r.'s 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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You and tomo577 have more trouble keeping up with your ammo than any 10 guys I've ever heard of.  --------------------------------------------- "Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder." | |||
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The only thing wrong with the .375 Ruger/Hawkeye is that it's not an H&H. If Ruger offered an $800 .375H&H in a Hawkeye-like platform, I think they'd sell as least as many and probably a whole lot more than what they'll sell in the .375 Ruger. I didn't make the decision and don't know the logic behind why they decided to offer an esoteric version of something endemic that has pretty much dominated it's class (all-arounder: PG to DG) since WWII but I'm sure they have their reasons. I'd much rather have a standard sized stainless synthetic H&H with the wonderful performance parameters and forget about the "improvements" at the cost of scarcity and obscurity. IMHO | |||
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Interesting. I've always felt the ruger 77 was one of the best designed bolt actions ever made. I've built many custom rifles on them since the early 70's. I prefer the tang safety guns. I think the workmanship on the later ones leaves something to be desired but they are still the best value I think. Lets see, while we're at it, the Red label is also one of the best built (from a strength & dependability standpoint) & most reliable O/U shotguns in the world, at any price. The 10/22 is arguably the best 22 auto ever designed. The #1 is as well designed as any SS rifle I've ever seen and its continued poularity seems to support my opinion of it.... Handguns? Yes I guess they make them too ."You can lead a horticulture, ... but you can't make 'er think" Florida Gardener | |||
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I have previously posted my grievances with Ruger.....also Savage, Weatherby, and FIE and will not bore folks with a repost of these issues! I've had good success with Winchester, Remington, Browning, Marlin, Mossberg, Sako, Mausers, and Interarms. (probably others too) When someone asks about Ruger I give my experience....others disagree.....it's what makes a forum! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I'm sure it's fine and will kill like lightning. But I sure won't sell my two tried and true .375 H&H Magnum rifles and run out and buy a pair of Rugers in their spiffy new 3/8 bore. It just doesn't answer the basic question: Why? well enough to suit me. IMHO, it's the proverbial perfect solution to the non-existent problem. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Because it fits in the as built action with no extra machining or work. The extra costs of the action to offer a totally new cartridge that has generated them hundred of thousands of dollars worth of publicity is zero. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Worth repeating again for those that still don't get it:
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I leave for 14 days Saturday and my only rifle will be a 375R African, I'll let everyone know how it works out. The biggest animal on license is a giraffe, not DG but a good test of the bullet.................JJ " venator ferae bestiae et aquae vitae " | |||
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Free rifles?  GS | |||
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Guess that explains why the prices are going up, and, the value is going down... I know a LOT Of people that would have loved to buy 480 rugers in either SA/DA, but, the production run was insufficent, and, we never go t the guns... GS | |||
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My criptic $ in $sending was meant to mean that I plan on purchasing both rifles, as I feel they are worth buying and owning. In fact I plan on carrying one as my backup rifle this season - if that is any indication of how strongly I feel about the rifles. I might even use some GS bullets - as they are also of superb quality. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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The .375Ruger is a super cartridge. So is many others that never caught on. It is copeting against the No.1 most popular, famous, classic, cartridge in all times, the .375 H&H. It is good enough to beat it, but will it happen? Will other makers chamber the Ruger? Will CZ? To survive, it needs to be chambered in cheep rifles, like the Ruger Hawkeye, as well as being chambered in more prizy rifles. Only time will show. Bent Fossdal Reiso 5685 Uggdal Norway | |||
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GS, here's what i may not have said directly... 480 ruger came out under the ruger family control, when the stock was WAY down the 375 is coming out under new management...and the stock has steadily grown, up more than 50% since sold Or, in another way, yes, the 480 didn't do so hot, but the 375 ruger, ,along with the hawkeye rifles, are the ONLY new products the new owners have brought out, to date, and the stock is skyrocketing jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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My non-hunter friend says anyone who'd shoot a giraffe, would pull up baby corn Let us know how it works. I still would rather have seen them just commercialize the Taylor. But, that wouldn't sell a lot of expensive Hornady brass or ammo. "You can lead a horticulture, ... but you can't make 'er think" Florida Gardener | |||
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brayhaven, I know what you mean. Purtyest animals God ever made, I have zero desire to shoot one but my son has wanted to take one and the little wife wants the hide to trim a sofa and chairs, so off I go !....................JJ " venator ferae bestiae et aquae vitae " | |||
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I think The .375 Ruger should be a sucsess. But My crystal ball is a little hazy. I do not have a rifle bigger than a .338 win, and if I wanted to go to africa on a budget, (and I am thinking of it now)and 800 dollar rifle in .375 sure helps , and the same for Alaska ! As for the Quality of rugers rifles, I have 2 featherweights 1 is a .257 Roberts. It has a 20 inch barrel that is .550 diamiter at the muzzle. I tweeked it a bit but but with the 2.5X8 VX3 it weighs just uner 7 lbs and shoots several bullets right around .5 MOA For 3 shots. The othera #1A in 7X57 is just the same except I bought it used so if it was tweeked I am not the guy who did it. I wonder if they would sell the new steel floor plate by phone , I would love to buy a short action M2 and build a custon on it...tj3006 freedom1st | |||
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