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RIP: Am very impressed by it...also envious because we lefties have to wait at least six months before we can get one.


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very nice...
do you know how to get that finish on the bolt handle? bead blast it and throw it in the bluing tank... dummy me didn't know the mkII are ALL stainless, even with the blue action.

looks like the safety is bigger, YEA!!!

trigger looks a bit different, bet it's easier to adjust

i kind of like the sights, too


nice round of improvements...


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jeffeoso,
Your guess is good as mine on the gray finish. Gossip is that it is bead blasted stainless that is run through the bluing tank, as you say.
I posted the extra photos before anybody whined about not seeing the new Hawkeye floor plate. Wink
 
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Nice rifle Ron. So is the 375 Weatherby "old hat" ?


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Nice rifle Ron. So is the 375 Weatherby "old hat" ?


Not at all. It is still the best practical choice.

The ultimate battery would be a .395 GSC and a .375 Weatherby. If the ammo got lost enroute, you could still shoot .375 H&H in the the .375 Weatherby, if reduced to scrounging local ammo. Wink
 
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I can't get over how nice your rifle looks in the "African" dress. It still has the utilitarian Ruger flair but it appears to have shaken off the mkII boxy, blocky, heavy club look. My RSM is pleasing to look at but your "African" is more pleasingly svelte and better proportioned. If it handles as well as it looks, then I'd say the rifleman's rifle may be back.

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You are right! Ruger has done very well by themselves, if it shoots as well as it handles and looks.

The .375 H&H Ruger M77 RSM is about 10 lbs.

The .375 Ruger M77 Hawkeye African is 2.25 pounds lighter than that: 7.75 pounds of bare naked lady rifle



BTW, that rifle over my shoulder in the signature photo is a 6.75 pound .375 H&H Pre-64 in a Brown Pounder stock. The muzzle on it is 0.625" at the 24" point. It is pleasant and accurate, so the .375 Ruger having a heavier/stiffer barrel than that does have the potential for accuracy.

The RSM muzzle is 0.750" at the 23" length.
Hawkeye muzzle is 0.680" at the 23" length, making it similar in weight to the barrels on the CZ 550 Magnum in .375 caliber.

The walnut stock on the African Hawkeye is pleasingly slim.
 
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do you know how to get that finish on the bolt handle? bead blast it and throw it in the bluing tank... dummy me didn't know the mkII are ALL stainless, even with the blue action.

bewildered

is this true?

if so i would loooooooove an african ruger now Smiler


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I'm not at all a Ruger fan and have posted to that effect in the past,



This rifle however does have appeal and assuming it's accurate and functions well, it would make a very fine DG and BG rifle combination for plains game and bigger stuff.....properly loaded that is!

I'm still going to hold out for the brass from Hornady and potentially stuff one of these rounds in a VZ-24 where I suspect it'll see a lot more use than Ruger sales will ever amount to.


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Nice lookin' rifle! Congratulations.

Did I notice that there is no recoil lug on the barrel?


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No recoil lug on barrel. Does have good crossbolt at the action recoil lug.

Bolt handle and body (one piece casting) and extractor may be stainless on this and all MkII's, not sure, though the cocking piece, shroud&safety, and firing pin are not.

The Stainless M77MkII has stainless shroud and safety to boot.

And I do not think the safety is any different, same size wing, on the Hawkeye as on the standard M77MkII. The trigger and floorplate engraving/etching seem to be the only real difference.
Thankfully all the bottom metal is steel, and she still weighs only 7.75# with that slim walnut stock. thumb

I am repeating myself a bit for some who have just been looking at the pictures. They probably won't read this either. Wink
 
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I'll post dimensions of the fireformed shoulder of the brass when I get them.
 
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Got a new rifle and not even sure that ammo exists to shoot in it? But it sure looks like a well thought out and executed rifle. Big Grin
 
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If anybody gets in a horrible crunch for ammo, I have some 8x86(S) brass from RWS that you can use to fireform some cases.

It ain't cheap, but I'll sell some for what I paid for them.

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If anybody gets in a horrible crunch for ammo, I have some 8x86(S) brass from RWS that you can use to fireform some cases.

It ain't cheap, but I'll sell some for what I paid for them.

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8x68S brass is what Dave Scovill will be eating crow over.

That is .5118" at the rim and .5236" at the head/base diameter.

The Ruger will be .532" max at head and rim.

Is there such a thing as 8x86(S) brass? Typo? Wink
I also noted that GA is offering a price of $999. Whittaker Guns is selling them for $805. They'll get more.

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Thanks for posting the pictures and particulars RIP.

Looks like a really nice rifle.

It will be great to hear your results when you get ammo.

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kyler...

atascadero is a nice place wave
thank goodness i am not alone in cali

900 is a rip off (no punn intended rip)

there will be plenty o moose elk bear that will have heartburn this year cuzz of the 375 ruger...

i feel sorry for scovil in that huuuuge blunder...

the 8x68 will be great for making the 398x68...


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atascadero is a nice place wave
thank goodness i am not alone in cali


What am I, chopped liver?

Just thinking out loud, would Ruger want to make a 416 and have to listen to everyone complain about it not beating the 416 remington?

A 423 bore's only competition is the Jeffrey and not enough of the casual shooters know anything about that.

Although a .40 bore would be interesting also.


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well fjold i cant say bakersfield is a nice place Big Grin

but you are part of the "cali resistance"

bakersfield could be a good meeting place for the cali a.r. get together whenever that happens...maybe a cali a.r. get together/hog hunt


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Luckily Darrell Whittaker saved one for me. Four M77 Hawkeyes of the African model arrived and are all sold. The ammo arrives 3 days from now.

The bare naked lady rifle weighs 7.75 lbs, matte black and walnut.

23" barrel muzzle diameter is 0.668" exclusive of the barrel band front sight of course.

Trigger has no creep and breaks at about 5 lbs. Just a pound and a half of lawyer proofing to be adjusted away.

The walnut I got was excellently laid out for the grain flow through the grip and pretty enough, I have no complaints for the money.

The bare naked lady rifle balances on the hinge of the floor plate, and she is all steel, walnut and sex appeal. I have an HS Precision stock for her with full aluminum bedding block, for serious use.

We'll soon see how she shoots, and how the factory ammo chronographs.

How exciting.....I was just at Hornady's website.....no dies available and no brass....just factory ammo and at $65 a box this girl likes some very expensive food.

Put her on a diet until the dies are available.\


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i finaly decided on the right one...although....


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RIP,
Congrats on the new rifle.

The local gunshop had some of the new Ruger Hawkeye's in standard calibers. I was able to give them a once over. Those rifles are pretty nice and tempting..... then I came to my senses. Wink

I must admit that I am not much of Ruger fan, but those Hawkeyes have me thinking.
 
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Thanks, you're welcome, and my pleasure as appropriate to civil responses above. Wink

BTW, I checked the twist and it is 1:12". animal
 
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A brand new rifle loaded with harsh language is still an empty rifle! Big Grin

Congrats RIP! Run her over the crony a few times please!
 
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didnt like my new years bannana huh rip... Big Grin


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BTW, I checked the twist and it is 1:12".

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What would it take to convert a stainless MK II that is already chambered in 7mm mag. I was looking at barrels and it seems it may be better to just buy this new gun. However, a stainless version may have to be built.
 
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I think Ruger has made a winner and looks like they corrected the right things, except making the safety wing longer. Nice front sight, and rear. Stock looks classy and actually quite nice wood. I'll have one when they are available at normal prices and brass is available. I'm also pleased the bolt handle etc. is not bright and shiny. Mount a 1.75-6x Leupold on it or a 2.5-8x and go kill something with it. tmoran- It would be just as cheap to buy the new rifle IMO. You'd have to have a new barrel, barrel band swivel, NECG sights, and apparently some stock work to switch your 7Mag over. Better to sell it and buy the new one.


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BTW, that rifle over my shoulder in the signature photo is a 6.75 pound .375 H&H Pre-64 in a Brown Pounder stock. The muzzle on it is 0.625" at the 24" point.


Very nice 375 RIP thumb .

I'm more interested in that 375 old beaut of yours mate.
How did you get that sucker so light bewildered ?
Is that scoped weight?

I'm in the process of sourcing(Maybe,if the $$$$ are right) a Pre-64 for a future project.

Cheers mate,
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PS-Any pre-64 pic's bud.


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Tez338,
Thank you, Sir!
6.75 pounds is the bare-naked-lady weight.
It got that way with a skinny barrel (No.3 Douglas sporter, 0.625" at 24" muzzle) and, to balance it, a 1 pound Brown Precision stock (Brown Pounder) of graphite, kevlar, and fiberglass with textured paint finish. No rear iron sight on the barrel. An NECG peep serves if the scope comes off. It now has Leupold QRW bases that do not overhang the ejection port, and the front sling base is now on the forend tip of the stock, no barrel band.

It's a 1958 action (M70 that was a 300 H&H, holds 4 in the box of .375 H&H, flawless feeder) rebarreled by Walt Sherman in Tallahassee, Fl about 1991 and subsequently finished up by Kelly Olson in Anchorage, AK, 1992. It has been blooded in AK, KY, and Botswana.

That's Jackphantomhuckleberryhounddog under the table. Friends call him "Jack."

 
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RIP,

Enough with the foreplay already. We want Chrono info now! Big Grin



 
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Enough with the foreplay already. We want Chrono info now! Big Grin


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Maybe the UPS man will be sober by tomorrow and deliver the ammo to Whittaker Guns, and the weather will be good and I will get it chronographed tomorrow. Lord willin' and the creeks don't rise, surely by the weekend.thumb

The Hawkeye in .375 Ruger is about 1 cm shorter than the RSM in .375 H&H, but it is a full 1 Kg lighter.

If the Hawkeye shoots accurately and delivers slightly higher velocity with the same bullet weight and barrel length as the .375 H&H, then we'll considered it a job well done by Ruger and Hornady. salute
 
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RIP,

Any plans to drag the Iron Buffalo outta the barn and see how the Hornady bullets hold up to a Kentucky water torture?
 
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After what we have seen posted on these forums about "those" bullets in cape buffalo, do we really need to?
 
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Midway is showing all the big bore Hornday bullets as "discontinued by manufacturer", I'm curious if there's a serious remodel afoot Wink Might be interesting to see if there's a change in the quality of the bullet they plug in over the next few months. They might come up with something that I'll use in the .376 Steyr. Smiler

My hat's off to you for taking the plunge while the rifles are still new, unproven and expensive beer (I'll wait till they're cheap, used and easy)
 
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Thank you, Sir!
6.75 pounds is the bare-naked-lady weight.
It got that way with a skinny barrel (No.3 Douglas sporter, 0.625" at 24" muzzle) and, to balance it, a 1 pound Brown Precision stock (Brown Pounder) of graphite, kevlar, and fiberglass with textured paint finish. No rear iron sight on the barrel. An NECG peep serves if the scope comes off. It now has Leupold QRW bases that do not overhang the ejection port, and the front sling base is now on the forend tip of the stock, no barrel band.

It's a 1958 action (M70 that was a 300 H&H, holds 4 in the box of .375 H&H, flawless feeder) rebarreled by Walt Sherman in Tallahassee, Fl about 1992 and subsequently finished up by Kelly Olson in Anchorage, AK. It has been blooded in AK, KY, and Botswana.

That's Jackphantomhuckleberryhounddog under the table. Friends call him "Jack."


RIP,all I can say Sir.My hats off .

That is one nice setup mate,which must of taken you many hours thought(Sleepless nights Wink ) trying to mate all those bits & pieces together thumb .

Again many thanks .



PS-Learn something everyday.As I didn't realise anyone made lighter stocks than McMillan Edge bewildered .
O-yeah give Jack a scratch for us.


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I'm looking foreward to your appraisal and chrono results.

Thanks for posting this thread.
 
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