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Originally posted by jb:
now its 375 H&H 78.12%

yup

now at 80 ...
though, really, i would buy a 454 under the terms discussed

Seems like the old Browning BLR when they were made of steel (not the lightweight ones made recently would be a better platform). Though I'm more a 375 H&H fan than a 375 Ruger, it seems like the 375 Ruger would be a natural in an all steel Browning BLR (yes with removeable magazines) ... lol I also read somewhere that someone had modified a Browning BAR Safari in 338 Win Mag to shoot 458 Win Mag reliably. Another opton?


Chuck

Geez,

With over 10,000 votes, that should be telling Marlin something...

Would be an interesting rifle..

Would surely make my 45-70 a squirrel gun...

Roger QSL

Call me a traitor....I voted for 454.

I just don't get it. Love the 375, just don't see it in this. Obviously most here want it so I certainly could be missing the big picture. I guess there may be a few specialized times it would be suitable but really? I just don't know if it is wise for a company to put alot of effort into a novelty gun. Hey I hope they sell a million of them, then maybe we'll finally see that Remington 7600 in 470 NE we've all been waiting for.

375 H&H now #1 with 81.79%.

Don't know what I would use it for but I sure would buy it

John

The lever gun is as American as apple pie. The 375H&H is as classic as you can get. Something handy about a lever, even though I have none in the safe right now. I was looking at a '95 takedown in 405 but will wait for a bit now. Just to see.

The reason (my reason, anyway) for wanting a 375 is because lever guns of one kind or another have been made in all the other choices or a similar parent.

A new gun in 375 H&H opens the way for a lever action in a whole host of never before avialable options.

I want one because I don't have one.....

Well, I voted.

This is a little un-real. This is exactly the gun I have been waiting for.

Lever action .375 H&H

It will never happen.
I doubt the existing lever gun could be made to handle the long ctg lenght of the 375H&H or it's max operating presure.

And in these depressionary times, I doubt design work on a new variant of their existing lever actions would be approved by any corepirate board-O-thieves.

Look at gun industry history, there was Winchester a major player, already making a long action 375H&H in their model 70, and they decided to produce the 458 Win Mag in 30-06 ctg lenght. History repeats like lunch at Taco Bell.

At best you might see a 375 caliber, but chambered in a ctg design to work through the Marlin existing action lenghts. It will probably have that extra wide belt on it too like the 450 Marlin. Remember what happen to the 375 Winchester in their Big Bore series of lever guns they died a quick death. Tt was too bad too, I liked it but didn't have the cash in those days to buy one to keep them in business making 100's more.

How many times can you vote? sheesh I look yesterday and the 454 was ahead just barely and now you guys have pushed the 375 well over the top. I voted for them both though. I think I would rather have the 454 for more practical shooting.

hMMM,

I wonder how many of the 13,000 plus would actually buy a new 375HH lever...

I'm good for one...

Roger QSL

It would be easier to make a .375 Ruger lever gun. Long cartridges require a greater lever throw than short ones.

On the other hand, most levers would probably not "like" the high pressure, unless they were "lever operated bolt actions" like the ond (and failed on the market) Winchester 88.

I think it would be a hell of a pig and bear gun. what fun. I could create reasons for it, but I'd rather stick with just liking the idea.

I'd buy one as soon as I could scrape the money up. and put a limbsaver on it before even first firing.

Red

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Originally posted by Roger:
hMMM,

I wonder how many of the 13,000 plus would actually buy a new 375HH lever...

I'm good for one...

Roger QSL

Well, can't answer that question....but what I can tell you is 1 of the 13,000 would. That one person being myself.

It would be interesting to read Phil Shoemakers thoughts of this rifle.

Marlin lever in 375H&H.....

If they build it, I'll buy it!!

The 454 is catching up... Keep voting!
I am shocked they did not list the 500 S&W

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Roger:
hMMM,

I wonder how many of the 13,000 plus would actually buy a new 375HH lever...


My honest GUESS; 10-20%

People didn't buy that many BLRs in .358 Win.
I don't think they will buy .375 H&H lever guns.

The Win SX1 shotgun was marketed based on all milled parts and looking like the M12 pump gun. This came from input from the shooters. It cost a few bucks more than the 1100 Rem and no one bought it.

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Originally posted by SR4759:
People didn't buy that many BLRs in .358 Win.
I don't think they will buy .375 H&H lever guns.
......

There is a HUGE difference between the 358 Win and the 375H&H....lots of "gun nuts" have no idea what the 358 Win is.....most of them know about the 375H&H.

BTW, if Browning made the BLR in 375H&H. I'd buy that also

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Originally posted by AzGuy:

quote:

Originally posted by SR4759:
People didn't buy that many BLRs in .358 Win.
I don't think they will buy .375 H&H lever guns.
......

There is a HUGE difference between the 358 Win and the 375H&H....lots of "gun nuts" have no idea what the 358 Win is.....most of them know about the 375H&H.

BTW, if Browning made the BLR in 375H&H. I'd buy that also

Browning did the 300 Win., so a 458 on that frame should be workable..

The 375 is just a bit longer, but nothing a little machine work couldn't fix..

If Browning can do it, Marlin/Remington should be able to handle it..

Just takes the money making motive to make it happen...

Roger QSL

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Originally posted by Roger:

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Originally posted by AzGuy:

quote:

Originally posted by SR4759:
People didn't buy that many BLRs in .358 Win.
I don't think they will buy .375 H&H lever guns.
......

There is a HUGE difference between the 358 Win and the 375H&H....lots of "gun nuts" have no idea what the 358 Win is.....most of them know about the 375H&H.

BTW, if Browning made the BLR in 375H&H. I'd buy that also

Browning did the 300 Win., so a 458 on that frame should be workable..

The 375 is just a bit longer, but nothing a little machine work couldn't fix..

If Browning can do it, Marlin/Remington should be able to handle it..

Just takes the money making motive to make it happen...

Roger QSL

Most gun buyers have never heard of a .375 H&H.
Buyers are what count not gun nuts...
As soon as they see that a box of ammo costs $35 to $50 it is doomed.

look how remington teased us with the spr22 45-70... it took how many years???.... pressure problems???.... i put my $$$$$ out, got the first spr22 45-70 delivered in houston... and had to have it shipped in from colorado.....and with remington at the reins of marlin, do you think they're really listening????.... i hope they are, cause if it's under $1200, i'll take 1..

voted! I'd consider buying one if it was good, not liek the junk that remington called spr22... i folled with some interest some of the issues people here had with them.

Why would the 454 be better than a 45-70?

cause i would shoot 45lc in it, same loads as my hunting pistol!

Looks like they removed the 375.

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Originally posted by SR4759:

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Originally posted by Roger:

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Originally posted by AzGuy:

quote:

Originally posted by SR4759:
People didn't buy that many BLRs in .358 Win.
I don't think they will buy .375 H&H lever guns.
......

There is a HUGE difference between the 358 Win and the 375H&H....lots of "gun nuts" have no idea what the 358 Win is.....most of them know about the 375H&H.

BTW, if Browning made the BLR in 375H&H. I'd buy that also

Browning did the 300 Win., so a 458 on that frame should be workable..

The 375 is just a bit longer, but nothing a little machine work couldn't fix..

If Browning can do it, Marlin/Remington should be able to handle it..

Just takes the money making motive to make it happen...

Roger QSL

Most gun buyers have never heard of a .375 H&H.
Buyers are what count not gun nuts...
As soon as they see that a box of ammo costs $35 to $50 it is doomed.

A "limited" run of 1,000 rifles would sell out very quickly IMO.

Either they listed it in error and made a correction; or someone has intentionally ACORNed the poll to artifically boost the votes and they dumped the caliber to get a more honest poll. Wish it worked that way with our current community organizer/chief executive.

I suspect the latter because I cannot see that much overwhelming support for a 375H&H in a lever gun. Wish it were true but it just caint be.

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Originally posted by gbanger:
Why would the 454 be better than a 45-70?

Trade off would be a lot more rounds in the magazine versus a little more power. Not really a big deal for most types of hunting but for plinking and general shooting, a lot people would like the extra magazine capacity. Plus what Jeff said.

D'oh!!!
We have been disenfranchised!!!

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
Either they listed it in error and made a correction; or someone has intentionally ACORNed the poll to artifically boost the votes and they dumped the caliber to get a more honest poll. Wish it worked that way with our current community organizer/chief executive.

I suspect the latter because I cannot see that much overwhelming support for a 375H&H in a lever gun. Wish it were true but it just caint be.

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Originally posted by AzGuy:

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Originally posted by SR4759:

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Originally posted by Roger:

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Originally posted by AzGuy:

quote:

Originally posted by SR4759:
People didn't buy that many BLRs in .358 Win.
I don't think they will buy .375 H&H lever guns.
......

There is a HUGE difference between the 358 Win and the 375H&H....lots of "gun nuts" have no idea what the 358 Win is.....most of them know about the 375H&H.

BTW, if Browning made the BLR in 375H&H. I'd buy that also

Browning did the 300 Win., so a 458 on that frame should be workable..

The 375 is just a bit longer, but nothing a little machine work couldn't fix..

If Browning can do it, Marlin/Remington should be able to handle it..

Just takes the money making motive to make it happen...

Roger QSL

Most gun buyers have never heard of a .375 H&H.
Buyers are what count not gun nuts...
As soon as they see that a box of ammo costs $35 to $50 it is doomed.

A "limited" run of 1,000 rifles would sell out very quickly IMO.

Tooling to get a new design started would cost about $100K.
If the tooling is amortized over the cost of the run of 1000 your rifle will have an extra $100 tacked on just for the cost of the tooling....
In today's economy about the only new design you might get would come from....eastern Europe?

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Originally posted by boom stick:
D'oh!!!
We have been disenfranchised!!!

That or some marketing dumbass was supposed to put 375 Winchester and forgot his notes....

There is still hope of a kind; if they go with 300 Win Mag we can find a home for the 375-338 Chatfield-Taylor. OK Team GUNCORN, time to saddle up and drive the 300 Win to the top!

The dirty bastards got rid of the 300win and 338 win as well. Screw Marlington. If I wanted a 30-06 or 308 I'd buy a browning. They'd be smart to do something different which would gather a whole new market instead of compete with existing BLR's, 99's & 88's.

I hope Remington chokes on it. They have gone to total crap over the last decade. What a brilliant idea that was to import Russian junk and stamp Remington on it. Totally tarnishing the brand. And while I'm on a rant, their ammo sucks too!

They act like a high school girlfriend, tease ya just enough to get you excited and then saying no.

Gotta remember that Remington was purchased by an investment group awhile back, probably a Goddamn hedgefund. They will destroy the company from the inside out and then sell off while not taking the hit themselves.

There exists the 444 Marlin. Then there is a popular wildcat 375-444. What if the shoulder was sloped more to aid in feeding? With todays powders, loading techniques, and variety of bullets this could be a viable chambering.

I personally would like an 1895 in 454. I have a single shot Browning 1885 in 454. It is neat. I wanted Marlin quality, but a retro fit was beyond my budget. 454 chambered lever needs to have a 1-20 twist, no slower please!! I want to stabilize 400gr bullets. Wild West Guns has a 454 lever, but $2500.00 is way more than I will spend for a lever gun, even if it is made of 17-4 stainless-the same metal my custom Freedom Arms gun is made from.


There would be some historical significance if Remington were to actually put their name on it too! You gotta search and research, but you will be rewarded by discovering that once upon a time ALL gunmakers in the US got together and agreements were made as to what designs would be made by which companies. Remington agreed to never manufacture a lever action. That was one of the most significant agreements that came from that particular summit.

Lets make history....Rock on Remington make us a 375 H&H lever, or even better make us a 454 Lever Gun. With Remington's name on it I will buy either or both.

Andy

remington did make a lever gun, andy... in 455/70, no joke.

that investment group bought rem, marlin, hr, bushmaster and dpms .. and dakota .. in my opinion, that was the best that could be done for all of them, pre-the-greatest-gun-saleman of all time

they removed 375 and 454 ... i am no longer interested

The current 336 action takes a 2.55 length round in factory form. It can be modified to feed 2.7 inches by a good gunsmith. Obviously, a 3.6 inch 375 H+H would need a new action. Hornady solved the 'pointy' bullet issue with the leverevolution bullet. So, looks like marlin was testing the market for a 'bigger' action?