Gents,

Anyone know anything about the 458 Alpine? All I have gotten so far is that it's the WSM opened up to 458. Would like any load data if it's out there.

Thank,

Roger QSL

Roger I know it is 4 yrs coming but there is load data. PM for details.....

SSGA

It is colled the 458 noveske I believe...

Boomy,
SSGA's cartridge is different. He's blown the shoulder forward ... hat's off to him ... he's achieved more than he expected from the short case. And in true wildcat pioneering fashion ... copped a shit load of grief for even considering such a case from the Aussie forums (I even stuck the sharp stick in a few times ... but we Aussie take the piss out of each other pretty much most of the time) and placing it in a Browning A-Bolt. I ask you ... which sane man builds a wildcat and places it in a Browning A-Bolt!!
Cheers...
Con

Are you saying i am not sane???? Or are you having a crack at Browning A-bolts?????

Seriously, for a hunting rifle it is fantastic. esp magazine and tang safety.

All in all I am ecstatic about how well this little cartridge performs esp on big animals.....

SSGA,
9 minutes to bite ... mate, your slipping!!! I dropped through and saw S&F and mentioned how could we both be so stupid!!! My "boss" is away for a few days and this lovely rain has settled North of the divide .. I should have been out the door at 3am this morning and hunting ... instead I'm at home tapping away on the keyboard!
Cheers...
Con

Gentlemen

If your wanting a 416 Taylor and your gunsmith chambers in 338 Win Mag and necks in 416 the shoulder end up set back 65 thou from the correct 416 Taylor Dimensions

Similarly

I think you will find, cambering in 300WSM and necking in 458 will give you and entirely different case to the 458 Alpine, the shoulders are much further forward in the Alpine design than they would be to a 300 WSM/458neck combination, the Alpine case has a short neck

Infact it would be easier to form a 458 Alpine case from necking down shortened 300 Ultra mag cases than necking up 300 WSM and having to blow the shoulder forward, although the case necks would be thicker

Con why didn't we organise something this morning, we could have got over to Benella and knock over a deer this afternoon, if you wanted to get real wet.

But the next deer will die to the hit of a 458AR

regards
S&F

quote:

Originally posted by ShortandFat:
Con why didn't we organise something this morning, we could have got over to Benella and knock over a deer this afternoon, if you wanted to get real wet.

But the next deer will die to the hit of a 458AR

regards
S&F

S&F,
1. I assumed you were working all day.
2. Only the 470Capstick is sighted with ammunition ready to go ... this is very typical for me not to have a rifle ready.
3. I was too dumb to think of it.
4. Full freezer with half a cow yet to come.
5. I also want the next Sambar to be taken with my 458AR
Cheers...
Con

do y,all want to see what the fuss is about???

I can post pics...

SSGA I guess this is yer baby...can I post the pics???

guess so boys.....all the hard work done now and it has consistently proven to

Shot a "goose" for cray bait.....have 4 witnesses that saw the head fly over 7yds from the body. 150yds and still tackholes.....consistant powder burn is the key...

PS forgot to add......

I have coming the reamers for the 360Kestrel and the 5-1-1 Flea. Basically the .366 and .510 versions on the Alpine case Yeah i know i got it bad real bad!!!!

SSGA

SSGA.
PM inbound.
Cheers...
Con

very very good work...
having gone through the trials, the ups and downs, and highs and lows of wildcatting many times, it is worth it....

now, i have to brag... we went from conception on oct 12 to me having 3 firing rifles on dec 30, in 2005 .. which i think is my peronal best..

then the 500 ar sat for nearly a year waiting for a barrel maker to NOT make the barrel

Yes It wasn't the money issue here it was the fact that the parts just were not a simple puzzle to put together.......then the whole make up loads etc. So it was just time factor.

Highs and Lows, well you forget about the lows when the first target shows one hole for 3 shots, or the chrony shows much higher and the extraction is the bolt lifted.....

Jeffe,
See those pretty deer ... they'll be the 458AR's primary game.

Guys,
To be fair to the publishers and author ... article is from Guns & Game magazine Issue No57, Jan-Mar 2008. Breil Jackson's magazine has introduced quite a few wildcats on the Aussie scene and turned it into the best publication Down Under bar none.

I suppose I should drop them an email regarding the 458AR's
Cheers...
Con

Con,
hogs, axis, and whitetail are the primary feedstock for mine.. along with water jugs!

??? Can anyone read the copy? My eyes must be getting bad. Boom Stick, email your buddy a copy, wouldja?

Yes, too small for me too.

Dammit Boomstick!! I can't see shit over here! Is this a big pistol round or what?? How about a proper case drawing or something of use!!

can't win... Everyone complains about when I post big images... Will resize when I get to my computer...

For the tech savy...You can use the image location in the address bar then save it to your computer then zoom in... But I will repost tomorrow...

boom stick,
If you want a better resolution copy just yell as I have a new scanner and it seems to do a better job then the work one. Can even scan them in colour ... but jeez they're big files!!
Cheers...
Con

I'll see what i can do if you are all interested, i'll try and scan at my end in 12hrs or so but i don't know how to post photos....... or visit Ammoguide for more details.... 458 Alpine