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IMHO a person of average size and health can shoot a gun with 100 lbs of recoil with training. http://www.beartoothbullets.co...ators/php/recoil.htm How would you "Spend" it on bullet diameter, gun weight, bullet weight and bullet velocity? P.S. assuming no muzzle breaks. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | ||
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How about a 6lb lott shooting 500 grainers @ 2300! or a 12 lb 577 shooting 750's @ 2100???? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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boom stick, I have already spent it.  .500 A-Square, 570 grains @ 2,500 fps. Rifle weight: 11.4-12 pounds, depending on whether it's empty or full or in between. Four rounds weigh over half a pound! Hits like a lightning bolt. Heavy to be sure, but not too heavy for a hard day's work after elephant, hippo or cape buffalo. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I don't know about you but I have been to 100 ft lbs and that is not any fun. It can be done, but it is not for precision shooting.  | |||
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The larger the bore and the slower the bullet is one of my favorite combos. That 577 recipe is ideal imho to spend 100lbs of recoil. 1000 grain 12GFH @1800 in a 15 lb gun anyone??? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Call me boring, but there's no question for me... 470 Mbogo 500gr boolit 2500 fps 9.5 lb rifle Canuck32 owns this exact combo now. I think its perfect for African hunting. My own setup is a paltry 93 lbs of recoil (10.5 lb rifle). | |||
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How about spending it in a .600 Juraissic class rifle and having an extra 100 lbs of recoil in change  900 grain bullet 2400 fps 160 grains powder 212 lbs recoil | |||
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Go Rodney! Cant wait!  you will have to make it weigh 25 lbs to get down to 100lbs of recoil but I think you will go with a break and 15 lb rifle. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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550 Express -- 116lbs, actually .. 700gr at 2130 i haven't bothered calc the recoil of my 500 AR .. about 9#, 570gr at 2300 .. 94gr of powder opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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90lbs from the 500 AR and that combo. Shooting the 570 woodleighs with that speed and combo would bring you to 100 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I spent my recoil wad on my 550 Magnum and frankly, once is enough! That rifle has been dropped more times than Madonna! "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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This is how I've been spending my 100 lbs, well according to that calculator 99 lbs: 558 grain bullet 2250 fps 130 grains powder 10 lb rifle My standard .505 Gibbs load. Rodney. | |||
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 Good thing it has a laminate stock! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Already obligated to a .500 AccRel, so I'm looking to El Jeffeosso for support on this to bring out it's potential energy. Want to see what it will do with 570s and 600s .Rodney. | |||
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Rodney...in a 12 lb CZ shooting the 750 grain A-max @ 2100 will get 100 lbs of recoil. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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When I first bought my 600 OK from Safari Kid it weighed 9 pounds (no brake)… I fired a couple of 900 grain ABW Kodiaks @ about 2050 fps… The load was 158 grains of H4350… Around 215 ft/lbs of recoil??? I’m 300lbs and have shot various 375s, 416s, 458s, 505s, had and sold a 50 BMG (Ed Hubel’s 700HE convert now)… But that much recoil was ridiculous… The rifle promptly went back to AHR had some weight added, a quarter rib with long eye relief scope, and an X-Brake… Much more civilized now by comparison… @ 12 lbs it should be 160 ft/lbs??? The X-Brake perceptibly cuts that felt by half (not that much louder either)… One thing for sure any of my lesser big bores feel like medium bores my comparison… Hell… I bet some of Safari Kids Hand Cannon generate more recoil than some big bore rifles… Matt V. ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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Guess my post was off topic... If I were to build a rifle in the 100 ft/lbs range, I'd go the same route as MR... I'd like to do a 500 A-Square... Probably on a CZ550 with single stack mag... Like to have it throated to be able to shoot BMG bullets when single loaded... After my 700 H is done of course... ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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My turkey gun comes close. It's an Encore with a 20" barrel and weighs 6 pounds. Loaded with 1 7/8 oz shot + the wad @ 1300fps it comes to about 95 ft/lbs. It get's your attention when you pull the trigger. | |||
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ridiclous discussion , really. one would use the bore with the largest surface area, using the fastest powder, to push a bulet of maximal sectional density at a minimum of 2100 fps. for my money, 505 gibbs (as i have 2) 600 gr bullet, 134 gr RL 15 for 2300 fps or close. tolerable recoil, decent accuracy, and plenty of "wow" factor! | |||
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My Gibbs, 9.5 lb rifle, 525gr Woodleigh, 136gr. RL 22@ 2450 f/s and a concussion every third shot! I sold it back to the guy that made it for Mark Sullivan. He Magna-ported it for a new owner that weighed in at 155 lbs.( I weigh 300+). To date that rifle has taken 6 Elephant, 20+ buffalo and assorted other targets of opportunity. Wish I had never sold it. But perhaps that is why I can still do Anesthesia! square shooter | |||
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Good ol double in a 577, 750 at 2050 in a 12.5lb gun! DRSS Member | |||
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The Average person had better get a whole lot of training and a few years of experience under their belt before attempting to shoot a 100ft-lb class rifle. Saaeds Videos document that pretty thoroughly. You might get away with poor form once or twice but when you slip up and it kicks your teeth out you'll understand. Most guys will shoot a big gun like this just once then never fire it again. Been to 250ft-lbs many times and I'm just the average guy with 30 yrs of experience with over 45 cal rifles.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Does not matter, any combination is welcome. But I would spend it on the range, as I see no reason for it while hunting. Bent Fossdal Reiso 5685 Uggdal Norway | |||
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I would pick a very fast 375...maybe a 375 Cheytac. Legal for everything and excellent for long range when you screw on the brake! Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too! Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.  | |||
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What would I build with 100 Ft-lbs of recoil? Two rifles. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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+1 thanks to rodney for letting me shoot his .505 last saturday... he forgot the muzzle brake... and i didn't miss it....after i shot it 6 times i shot my .416 taylor (350 gr gas check cast, 79 gr rl 17 @ 2235 fps)... in a 9 1/2 lb eddystone enfield.... it handled like a pussycat..... go big or go home ........ DSC-- Life Member NRA--Life member DRSS--9.3x74 r Chapuis | |||
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A pre-64 Win M70 in 375 H&H 40 lbs of recoil and a nice Empire Mauser in 416 Rigby 60 lbs of recoil.  Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Well I am playing in the neighborhood of a 100 and it is giving me a headache right now. I have been to 100 and better with the 510 Wells-not all that much fun! Currently playing with my Win M70 500 MDM with 550s at 2250 is getting around 95 and pounding my head, shaking my brain, and giving me a headache. I finally got to start back to work on it yesterday and got 30 rounds fired, and the stock did not break! Excellent! I might finally finish development of this cartridge! Just have to have plenty of Excedrin super strength on hand! The rifle weighs 8.5 lbs and has a 21 inch barrel. Michael http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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MM, I take aleve, if i have been out of the saddle awhile, as a preemptive strike! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Jeffe I will keep the aleve in mind, excedrin has always done me good, but never hurts to have a backup. The stock held up so far! I think I am in good shape with it. I probably will be shooting everyday this week with the 500 MDM. I am excited about getting the load development worked out. Using H335-H322-RL 15--V-N140--WW748 with the 550s. On 3rd gen of H335 with 88grs at 2215 fps so far. The other 3 powders look good too. Next will be my 510 gr bullet-then 470 HP-then the funny cuts at 450 grs and then the light stuff. I should be well along by the end of the week and if the excedrin holds out! Michael http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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I'll be working on 22s the next couple weeks .. no REALLY I hope to get my modifed taurus 94SSS4" (SSS, rather than SS, as I am changing the barrel to 1:10 for SSS bullets) and I am going to go bed a 10/22 here in a few minutes 88hr of h335? sir, that's a respectable load .. ! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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How would I spend 100 lbs of recoil? Donate it to someone else! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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With my 458 lott I only get 74 ft lbs shooting a 500gr bullet at 2320 fps. The rifle only weights 10 lbs | |||
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I'd have to agree with that! ________  "...And on the 8th day, God created beer so those crazy Canadians wouldn't take over the world..." | |||
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Jeffe 22's? Well that will be a bit of a break, if you can keep from getting bored! That is my issue, getting bored with the small stuff. I still have not finished development of the 264 Super Short--been a year since I touched it almost! Well 88 gr H335 is getting there. The next loads today will be 91 gr RL 15 and moving up. I think with this rifle I will probably top out with the 550 at or around 2250 or so. Once there, dropping back down to 2100 for real world work with that bullet. That will put me back down to 85 or so ft lbs recoil. Michael http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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i believe I would shoot a 950 JDJ. A 3600 gr bullet can't go wrong! From Wikipedia- The cartridge drives its aforementioned 3,600 gr (230 g) bullet at approximately 2,200 ft/s (670 m/s). This yields a muzzle energy of 38,685 ft·lbf (52,450 J). ...The .950 JDJ produces a colossal amount of energy by comparison. In a 110 lb (50 kg) rifle, this will develop well over 200 ft·lbf (270 J) of free recoil energy if an efficient muzzle brake is not used. This rifle might qualify as a stopper! Sorry for going over the 100 lb limit. | |||
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