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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
BAD JEFFE!!! Go to your room!


Recoil is a lot of stock design. I shoot my CZ 450 Dakota with the 500gr bullets at about 2370fps. That's where Swift A-Frames and old-style Barnes single driving band solids make a six-shot group under 3" at 200 yds. I can shoot about twenty rounds off a bench before my eyes start to cross and groups get big.

Rich
DRSS

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Originally posted by Dave Bush:

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
To answer your question "Why isn't the 450 Rigby more popular?". I can do that in one word. "RECOIL!"

465H&H

That's the price you pay for PERFORMANCE!

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Then why does 465H&H own both a .465 H&H AND a .470 NE in Double Rifle form?

Rich
DRSS

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Originally posted by 465H&H:

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Originally posted by Dave Bush:

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
To answer your question "Why isn't the 450 Rigby more popular?". I can do that in one word. "RECOIL!"

465H&H

That's the price you pay for PERFORMANCE!

Butr why pay for something you don't need? Sounds like health care to me.

465H&H

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Then why does 465H&H own both a .465 H&H AND a .470 NE in Double Rifle form?

Rich
DRSS

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Originally posted by 465H&H:

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Then why does 465H&H own both a .465 H&H AND a .470 NE in Double Rifle form?

Rich
DRSS

Ok Rich my friend, wake up have another cup of coffee and I will explain. The original question was 'Why isn't the 450 Rigby more popular?" I replied because it had more recoil than most people will tolerate so it would never be very popular. Dave Bush responded with "That's the price you pay for performance." I then responded why pay for something (recoil) that you don't need (added performance).

To answer eezirider's question as to what I found works on elephant, it is what the old African hands have been saying for over 100 years. A 458 or larger caliber bullet weighing 480 to 500 grains and traveling 2,150 fps. That has worked perfectly for me as well as thousands of past and present hunters. That formula can be had in an easy to carry rifle of 7.5 to 10 lbs., either a double or magazine rifle. I don't need or want more recoil than what a 465 or 470 generates, nor more velocity. I am not willing to pay for more velocity or bullet weight for that matter by the required added recoil or carrying weight.

465H&H

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
Never heard of either of them. Are they PHs?

465H&H

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Originally posted by Oldsarge:
I had a .450 Rigby built clear back in '99, first one on the Left Coast. It weighs 10.25 lbs. Anyone who thinks it kicks too much must be trying for MOA groups off the bench. Under those circumstances it will loosen your teeth. However, in my five safaris I have yet to locate a bench rest in the bush. Once you've got the monster sighted in (and what is this with DGR's and scopes? If you're shooting buff at 200 yards, they ain't dangerous!), stand on you hind legs and shoot like a man. You will be shooting off sticks in Africa most of the time, get used to it. And there really isn't any need to be able to shoot more than a five shot string at the range anyway. If you need more shots than that in the field you will be so sh*t-faced scared, you won't feel a thing. Great stuff, adrenaline . . .