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. 416 Ruger Alaskan , with canoe paddle stock , with very rare green grip inserts clap thumb salute


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The 416 Ruger leaves for Zimbabwe on Wednesday for buff and elephant. If the red gods smile, there will be much celebrating and copious consumption of liquids for the event. Want to test it on some heavy targets.
 
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opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

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What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
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How is the quality on the gun?

I've never figured out why when you chamber for the 458 Lott or .510 Wells the gun automatically cost 2x or 3x what a .375 does.

I for one would love to have a .416, so I can take my .375 rebarrel it, and, have a .510 Wells. It would be great to have a full on pig gun for 800, with a decent stock, stainless, and, a caliber that drops them in their tracks.

Ruger has done an excellent job of identifying a market, and, I hope they sell heck out of the guns.
 
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Velocity would be close, but probably not better. The 458 will usually take a 24" barrel to get close whereas the 416 ruger makes do with a 20". The 458 is also a standard action,

The 400 gr 416 bullet has a higher sectional density than the 400gr 458, making it a better choice for critters that need full length perforation.

Nothing wrong with the 458 though; however, for DG and the like, I would stick with a 450 gr or above. A 480 gr bullet would still be pretty magical for a stopping round.

Sometimes there are hard and fast rules, sometimes guidelines, and more often than not, personal preference.



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. Now I,m not picking on you John .. But the 400 gr .416 bullet @ 2400 fps is NOT preferable to a 400 gr .458 bullet @ 2400 fps .......... Not only do some 400 gr .458 bullets expand to around an inch diameter . but they penetrate like crazy .............
. I have shot LOTS of 400 gr bullets in the .458 Win and Lott . and they are absolute killing machines ..my 458 has a 19.5 " barrel and with book loads I get 2400 fps .....................
Since Barnes dropped the 400 gr X bullet from their line of X and TSX bullets . The best ( probably was to start with )option is the 400 gr GS HV bullet , and the North Fork ... For heavy game .... If I was going to Africa to hunt Cape Buffalo my 458 with 400 gr bullets would be my prefered bullet ..... However actually there would be 300 gr Xs in my rifle , just to see if in fact Cape Buffalo arn,t elephants ........ Since people say the 9.3x62 works on C.B. and my 300 gr .458 loads penetrate as deep or deeper . I think I'de be in the chips ..............


Since you guys want to compare 400 grain bullets and which penetrates better, I'll throw in my personal preference, for whatever my .02 is worth. I wouldn't prefer either, I'll stick with my .416 Hoffman that gives me 2505 fps using a 400 gr. Trohpy Bonded Bearclaw or Sledgehammer Solid. THAT is a penetrating round, and as Jack Carter (founder of TBB) once told me, 'it's one hell of a killing machine.'
 
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Velocity would be close, but probably not better. The 458 will usually take a 24" barrel to get close whereas the 416 ruger makes do with a 20". The 458 is also a standard action,

The 400 gr 416 bullet has a higher sectional density than the 400gr 458, making it a better choice for critters that need full length perforation.

Nothing wrong with the 458 though; however, for DG and the like, I would stick with a 450 gr or above. A 480 gr bullet would still be pretty magical for a stopping round.

Sometimes there are hard and fast rules, sometimes guidelines, and more often than not, personal preference.



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. Now I,m not picking on you John .. But the 400 gr .416 bullet @ 2400 fps is NOT preferable to a 400 gr .458 bullet @ 2400 fps .......... Not only do some 400 gr .458 bullets expand to around an inch diameter . but they penetrate like crazy .............
. I have shot LOTS of 400 gr bullets in the .458 Win and Lott . and they are absolute killing machines ..my 458 has a 19.5 " barrel and with book loads I get 2400 fps .....................
Since Barnes dropped the 400 gr X bullet from their line of X and TSX bullets . The best ( probably was to start with )option is the 400 gr GS HV bullet , and the North Fork ... For heavy game .... If I was going to Africa to hunt Cape Buffalo my 458 with 400 gr bullets would be my prefered bullet ..... However actually there would be 300 gr Xs in my rifle , just to see if in fact Cape Buffalo arn,t elephants ........ Since people say the 9.3x62 works on C.B. and my 300 gr .458 loads penetrate as deep or deeper . I think I'de be in the chips ..............


Since you guys want to compare 400 grain bullets and which penetrates better, I'll throw in my personal preference, for whatever my .02 is worth. I wouldn't prefer either, I'll stick with my .416 Hoffman that gives me 2505 fps using a 400 gr. Trohpy Bonded Bearclaw or Sledgehammer Solid. THAT is a penetrating round, and as Jack Carter (founder of TBB) once told me, 'it's one hell of a killing machine.'


What calibers can you ream a .416 Ruger to?
 
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