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Originally posted by John Galt:
Also check out the Leupold VX-6 1-6. Plenty clear although perhaps a little portly. Great glass too!
-John

Will do. ...

YES! VERY NICE! Only 13.8 oz. and 11.20", not bad at all.

VX-6 1-6x24mm (30mm) CDS (Includes metric.)

http://www.leupold.com/hunting...cds-includes-metric/
Our VX-6 takes all the advantages of our Quantum Optical System and multiplies it times six. You get virtually every feature you can imagine—legendary ruggedness, stunning optics, and a huge 6x zoom ratio that shortens the distance to your next trophy. With a VX-6 atop your favorite rifle, the advantage is all yours.


Heavy posts stand out against cover and in twilight conditions, pointing boldly to the intersection. Centering is a snap. The thin crosshairs obscure little.VX-3 models use the Duplex reticle for range estimating as well. If you bracket a deer, you can read the range on the power selector ring.

These typical European-style reticles are bold and easy to see, especially against tangled backgrounds and shadows.
Actual Magnification 1.0 x 6.00 x
Linear Field of View (ft/100 yd) 116.00 ft 19.00 ft
Linear Field of View (m/100 m) 38.60 m 6.30 m
Eye Relief (in) 3.80 in 3.80 in
Eye Relief (mm) 95.00 mm 97.00 mm
Weight (oz) 13.80 oz
Weight (g) 391.00 g
Objective Clear Aperture (in) 0.90 in
Objective Clear Aperture (mm) 24.00 mm
Elevation Adjustment Range 110.00 moa
Windage Adjustment Range 110.00 moa

A. Length 11.20 in
B. Tube Length 7.40 in
C. Illustration 3.50 in
D. Illustration 2.50 in
E. Eyepiece Length 3.30 in
F. Objective Length 1.20 in
G. Objective Diameter 1.20 in
H. Eyepiece Diameter 1.80 in
K. Tube Diameter 1.18 in



VX-6 1-6x24mm (30mm) CDS Illuminated Reticle (includes metric)
http://www.leupold.com/hunting...cle-includes-metric/

FireDot Duplex (Illuminated)

Takes the legendary Leupold-designed Duplex reticle and adds an extra-bright centerpoint dot. Ideal for quick target acquisition and the broadest range of game applications.

FireDot Circle (Illuminated)

Image of FireDot Circle (Illuminated)Designed specifically for fast-moving targets, including dangerous game, pigs, and even turkeys. The circle with an extra-bright centerpoint dot is sized specifically to help you get on target faster when speed is critical.

FireDot 4 (Illuminated)

Image of FireDot 4 (Illuminated)Bold post with extra-bright centerpoint dot helps drive the eye to the center of the reticle and keeps the upper field of view free of obstructions. Aids in fast target acquisition.

Leupold website prices (MSRP):
Non-illuminated: $999.99
Illuminated: $1,124.99

$799.99--$899.99 at Midway USA:
http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...ial-system-cds-matte

Proofread their specs for a few minor variances:
Product Information
Shop more Leupold products The VX-6 is the enhanced version of the VX-7 and is now the flagship scope from Leupold. One major improvement is a crystal clear picture throughout the zoom. Whereas many scopes lose some clarity in the mid-range powers, the VX-6 maintains that high end clarity customers expect from Leupold rifle scopes. Pop-up finger adjustable turrets are interchangeable with the exposed CDS turrets, (1 CDS dial included) that allow you to quickly dial your elevation to different ranges matching your specific ballistic information. It features a 6:1 zoom ratio, Xtended Twilight Lens System for clean, crisp sight picture from dusk to dawn as well as DiamondCoat 2 scratch resistant coating.

Technical Information

Tube Diameter: 30mm
Adjustment Click Value: 1/4 MOA
Adjustment Type: Click
Exposed Turrets: No
Finger Adjustable Turrets: Yes
Turrets Resettable to Zero: Yes
Zero Stop: No
Turret Height: Low
Fast Focus Eyepiece: Yes
Lens Coating: DiamondCoat-2 Xtended Twilight
Warranty: Limited Lifetime Factory Warranty
Rings Included: No
Sunshade Included: No
Sunshade Length: N/A
Lens Covers Included: No
Power Variability: Variable
Min power: 1x
Max power: 6x
Reticle Construction: Wire
Reticle Focal Plane Location: 2nd
Parallax Adjustment: Fixed
Finish: Matte
Water/Fogproof: Yes
Shockproof: Yes
Airgun Rated: No
Objective Bell Diameter: N/A
Ocular Bell Diameter: N/A
Eye Relief: 3.8-3.8mm
Max Internal Adjustment:
Windage: 120 MOA @ 100yds
Elevation: 120 MOA @ 100yds

Exit Pupil Diameter: 24-4.0mm
Weight: 13.6 oz.

Field of View at 100 Yards:
114.3' @ 1x
20.9' @ 6x

Dimensions, in inches unless otherwise stated :
A: 10.8
B: N/A
C: N/A
D: N/A
E: N/A
F: N/A
G: N/A
H: N/A

The V6 1-6, with its 3.8" eyerelief looks nice up through a 416 level. For a 450, 460, 500 Jeffrey level I'll stick with the 5" eye-relief Nikons, 1.6-5 power.

Now I've always enjoyed a little longer reach, being partial to the flatter shooting loads. Yes, the Leupold 2.6-7.8 was a longtime favorite of mine, too. That is why I picked up a couple of Nikon Inline 3-9s this month. They are rated 92% light transmission, quite good even if not Nikon's 95% best, but also have 5" eye-relief AND Nikon's rugged reliability. Might make a nice scope for a 416 over the 3.8" eyerelief of the current Nikon Monarch 2-8, which would remain a classact backup.

Anyone own one of these VX-6 1-6x24 scopes? How are they compared to some of these others?

There he goes again, whining about eye relief.
All you gotta do is push the scope as far forward in the rings as possible, get a proper stock fit and grip it tightly ... and don't sweat the small stuff,
like losing a few feet of field of view off the 116 feet at 100 yards!!!

Ropati,
I hope to report to you on that someday, but I cannot own every scope I like. Maybe sumbuddy who know will post before I do.
As I get older, iron sights are less interesting and scopes more interesting ... (blind man emoticon)

RIP-

Scopes have features, and some features are more applicable to certain situations.

Fortunately, clarity and brightness can be assumed for almost any quality scope. Twilight is not usually a problem in Africa, but sometimes dark animals in heavy shade need a good reticle through clear glass.

Ruggedness is way up there as a consideration, though having a second, already sighted-in scope ameliorates deficiences. I've learned the hard way and had several hunts change their quality because of scopes, mostly in the 80's. Have I been learning and choosing better quality, or have scopes gotten better?

Appropriate magnification is an issue, too. Hartebeests or roan antelope out at 250-300 yards need to be kept straight. The boys' horns need to be sorted from the girls' and each other. A partner with binoculars helps greatly, but a scope with 8-9 magnification doesn't hurt, either. Shooting at 300 yards can be done with most any magnification but watching the head and horns is more comfortable with over 4-5 power.

Weight, size, and fit of a scope on a rifle is an issue. Uncovered turrets are rarely an issue for big bores.

And finally, eye-relief is a simple issue, but many scope buyers are not even aware of the eye-relief. A bigbore dangerous game rifle should have more rather than less eye-relief, so it always needs mention in a description. Scopes with 3"-3.3" eye-relief are best to be left on rifles generating under 2500 ftlbs. Rifles around 3000-4500 ftlbs should have 3.5" or more. For rifles over 5000 ftlbs, I would recommend 4" eye-relief or more. I know, I don't even follow my own advice, but I'm careful. Our 416s are over 6000 ftlbs and currently have 3.8" eye-relief. No problems. But I always doublethink my scope when doing sightins, pulling my head away from the eyepiece for centered, blurred-edge pictures, and trust to habit when on an animal.
(These recommendations need to be redone in figues of recoil energy rather than muzzleenergy. 15 ftlbs recoil can be handled with 3" eye-relief. 20 ftlbs (270/30-06) should have a little more. 30+ ftlbs recoil should have 3.5" minimum. 60 ftlbs recoil and more benefits from 4" eye-relief. And there's nothing wrong with 5" eye-relief if a rifle does 100 ftlbs recoil. RIP-- that last note was for hunting with a 400 CheyenneT. You'll appreciate 5" eye-relief.)

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Originally posted by 416Tanzan:
You'll appreciate 5" eye-relief.

+1

416Tanzan,
Proper eye relief is physical eye relief.
Regardless of what the optical specification for the scope's eye relief is, so far I can always be happy with it,
even with +100 foot-pound recoil.
It works for me, haven't found a scope yet that didn't ...
Unless the length of the ocular bell is too, long.
That can truly be a problem, unlike with this one:




I do not obsess over an inch of optical specification more or less than "ideal" for such-and-such recoil level.
That is silly.
I just live with whatever field of view I get when I have the scope full forward in the rings.

I always hold and shoot a light recoiler the same way I shoot a heavy recoiler. I never crawl the stock.
It is called "proper shooting form."

Never get lax with even the scope-sighted Marlin 30-30.
As a kid I once saw "Uncle Ralph" get a horrible cookie-cutter-bleeder on his forehead from one of those.
A thutty-thutty!
It was almost as if he had pressed the scope's sharp-edged eye-piece to his forehead and then pulled the trigger.

OK. You whine some more and I will whine right back at you.
At least we are still breathing here.

Over.

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Originally posted by RIP:

Proper eye relief is physical eye relief.
...

We're agreed on this.

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Nice scope

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I do not obsess over an inch of optical specification more or less than "ideal" for such-and-such recoil level.

Well, I recommend not ignoring the data, either. It's valid input for making best purchases.

Some people may ignore eye-relief, but I would include it for anyone putting a scope on a 3000+ ftlb-muzzle-energy rifle or 30+ ftlb-recoil rifle. Just good sense for an extra piece of safety. I, too, have seen friends have to mop up their foreheads. what bothers me is leaving eye-relief out of a discussion on a scope. For me, that information is as common-place and ordinary as the magnification or the scopes weight and mounting space.

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Originally posted by Ropati:
Anyone own one of these VX-6 1-6x24 scopes? How are they compared to some of these others?

I've got both the VX-6 1-6x24 and the 2-12x42, both illuminated firedot reticles. They are very clear and at least on par with my Swarovski Z3's. they have wonderful zoom ranges, offer a high-tech illumination module (motion sensor to deactivate and reactivate based on movement of the rifle after stationary periods of time) and a very small (1 MOA) illimination dot. All VX6's come with a free certificate for a CDS turret which you order through Leupold with your load ballistics and they create a fully custom elevation dial for the scope. Their standard duplex reticle is absolutely the best weight/thickness IMHO!

Another great feature is the constant eye relief across the entire zoom range. They have very clear lenses right up to the edge as well. Time will tell how durable they will be but so far the 2-12 has held up to about 100 rounds of .375 H&H off the bench- while not a really big boomer, a heavier recoiler than Granddad's deer rifle! Once I hunt with these scopes, I plan on giving a report on my findings.

-John

I've done a few quick reviews of the vx6 1-6 in the past. Quick points
Plus
- optics are fine
- huge field of view and clear to the edges
- eye box is forgiving and easy to get on target
- tough,scope and illumination has held up after 200 rounds of various 450 Rigby loads
Minus
- although more compact than many other 30mm scopes it is large enough change the balance vs smaller 1 inch scopes
- eye relief of 3.8 may even be a little generous