This Zeiss is nifty light for all its stuffings, 0.5 oz less than 1 pound:

http://ads.midwayusa.com/produ...ted-54-reticle-matte

Zeiss Victory HT Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 1.1-4x 24mm Illuminated #54 Reticle Matte

$2,299.99
Rebate available! Status: Available
Ready to ship




Product Information
Shop more Zeiss products The Victory HT is the perfect scope for any shooter of hunter needing to quickly and accurately get on target. With its ample field of view and large exit pupil provides lightning fast target acquisition, perfect for dangerous game hunting, 3-Gun competitions or tactical application. Customers have trusted the Zeiss name to deliver the finest products and the German made SCHOTT High Transmission lenses with LotuTec protective coating ensure that crystal clear image you expect from Zeiss. The ergonomic body style allows for easy operation and no added bulk to hinder performance. Advanced illuminated reticle technology brings you the most precise dot with minimal target coverage. Covered by a Limited lifetime transferable warranty.



Technical Information

Tube Diameter: 30mm
Adjustment Click Value: 1/10 Mil
Adjustment Type: Click
Exposed Turrets: No
Finger Adjustable Turrets: Yes
Turrets Resettable to Zero: Yes
Zero Stop: No
Turret Height: Low
Fast Focus Eyepiece: Yes
Lens Coating: Fully multi-coated
Warranty: Limited Lifetime transferable
Rings Included: No
Sunshade Included: No
Sunshade Length: N/A
Lens Covers Included: Yes
Power Variability: Variable
Min power: 1.1x
Max power: 4x
Reticle Construction: Etched
Reticle: #54
Illuminated Reticle: Yes
Battery Type: CR2032 3V (1)
Holdover reticle: No
Reticle Focal Plane Location: 2nd
Parallax Adjustment: Fixed
Finish: Matte
Water/Fogproof: Yes
Shockproof: Yes
Objective Bell Diameter: 30mm
Ocular Bell Diameter: 42.0mm
Eye Relief: 3.54"
Max Internal Adjustment:
Windage: 108 MOA
Elevation: 108 MOA

Exit Pupil Diameter: 14.8-6.0mm
Weight: 15.5 oz.

Field of View at 100 Yards:
114' @ 1.1x
31.5' @ 4x

Dimensions, in inches unless otherwise stated :
A: 11.37
B: -
C: -
D: -
E: -
F: -
G: 1.18
H: 1.65

Noticed that the Zeiss reticle construction is "Etched" not "Wire."
It did not take much etching for the reticle above, eh?
I find that reticle just a little disconcerting without a lower vertical post of some sort guiding my eye like a rifle barrel.

No wire reticle to break though. Just a glass one.

Another Zeiss etched reticle looks better to me, on same scope with different reticle, same price:

http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...ted-60-reticle-matte

Zeiss Victory HT Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 1.1-4x 24mm Illuminated #60 Reticle Matte

If form follows function then this is the prettiest, bestest-loaded-for-weight Mother Of All Mothers: It is the MOAM, not a trashy MILF.

The Eagle has landed, at 0.1 ounce less than a pound, fully loaded, and 0.4" longer than one foot:
I'd like to see one of these on a 500 Bateleur M98 Mauser.

http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...d-cd-i-reticle-matte

Swarovski Z6i 2nd Generation Extended Eye Relief Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 1-6x 24mm 3/20 Mil Adjustments Illuminated CD-I Reticle Matte

$2,399.00
Status: Special Order
Date expected in stock if ordered today: 10/21/2013
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Product Information

The SWAROVSKI Z6i 2nd Generation 30 mm riflescopes have all the great features of the original Z6i 30 mm riflescopes such as 6X zoom, the patented 4-point coil spring system and HD on the higher magnification models. The new features on the Z6 2nd Generation non-illuminated and illuminated riflescopes include more prominent ribbing on the power ring for easier magnification adjustment and they now come equipped with SWAROCLEAN non-stick coating on the lenses makes it easier to clean away dirt and tree resin. The higher magnification models feature the 3rd turret parallax that can be "locked in" but easily changed by feel. The illuminated models also feature a redesigned, slimmer illumination housing, the overall weight of the scope has been reduced. The day/night control has been redesigned to prevent accidental shut off/on. The Z6i 2nd Generation models also come equipped with SWAROLIGHT which features an auto shut off/on if rifle is taken out of the shooting position, which prolongs battery life.

Technical Information

Tube Diameter: 30mm
Adjustment Click Value: 3/20 Mil ...................= 0.54" at 100 yards, about 1/2-MOA click
Adjustment Type: Click
Exposed Turrets: No
Finger Adjustable Turrets: Yes
Turrets Resettable to Zero: Yes
Zero Stop: No
Turret Height: Low
Fast Focus Eyepiece: Yes
Lens Coating: Fully Multi-coated SWAROCLEAN coating
Warranty: Limited Lifetime
Rings Included: No
Sunshade Included: No
Sunshade Length: N/A
Lens Covers Included: No
Power Variability: Variable
Min power: 1x ........................................Hopefully true 1X.
Max power: 6x

Reticle Construction: Glass Etched ...................Lotta etching goin'on with this reticle.

Reticle: CD-I ........................................Lotta lighting up going on too, that will get your attention, combat or precision.

Illuminated Reticle: Yes ............................."Yes!" as Walter would say when smiling for the camera, instead of "Cheese!"

Battery Type: CR2032 3V (1)
Holdover reticle: No
Reticle Focal Plane Location: 2nd ...................."Yes!" Reticle stays same size as power changes. Preferred.
Parallax Adjustment: Fixed
Finish: Matte
Water/Fogproof: Yes
Shockproof: Yes .......................................It better be!
Objective Bell Diameter: N/A
Ocular Bell Diameter: N/A
Eye Relief: 4.72" .....................................Probably true.
Max Internal Adjustment:
Windage: 75.6 MOA
Elevation: 75.6 MOA

Exit Pupil Diameter: 3.74mm ...........................This probably means top power is 6.4X and the EPD would be 24mm if true 1X,
.........................................................................EPD would be 21.8mm i.f actual low mag is 1.1X.


Weight: 15.9 oz. ........................................................Whew!

Field of View at 100 Yards:
100.5' @ 1x
16.2' @ 16x

Dimensions, in inches unless otherwise stated :
A: 12.4 .................................................................My! That's a long one!
B:
C:
D:
E:
F:
G:
H:




Some other reticle choices at Midway USA:



Swarovski Z6i 2nd Generation Extended Eye Relief Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 1-6x 24mm 3/20 Mil Adjustments Illuminated 4-I Reticle Matte
http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...ed-4-i-reticle-matte
$2,399.00
Status: Available
Ready to ship
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Swarovski Z6i 2nd Generation Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 1-6x 24mm 3/20 Mil Adjustments Illuminated BRT-I Reticle Matte
http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...te?cm_vc=subv1461370
$2,469.00
Status: Out of Stock, Backorder OK
Date expected in stock: 09/11/2013
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$70 more for the "Etching" on the last reticle above.
That would be great on a .408 CheyTac sporter, the "400 Undekill" MRC PH or Ruger No.1 ...

http://www.swarovski.com/Web_U...bVubkCFY6k4AodgzYA-g

OOPS!

http://www.swarovskioptik.com/hunting

Wait for it ...

http://www.swarovskioptik.com/...g/rifle-scopes-c2005

Now watch the video: Battery saving function on a "driven hunt" in Austria I presume ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...bedded&v=m708JZOB-UQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...bedded&v=bw1O_C9QnL8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?f...bedded&v=_9kYfQSFT50



http://www.swarovskioptik.com/...6x24-l-ee-4-p5006366

That new Swaro is indeed a thing of beauty!

Plenty of good scopes posted. I have 2 trijacon 1.25-4X24 with the picket post reticle for my 416Rigby. Love those scopes.

I am one who does not worry if the tube is 30mm. Probably the toughest scopoe I have is a Nightforce NXS 2.5-10X32. If I was limited to 1 scope only on a hunt and no back up it would be this scope above all others.

I do know that anything that is man made can be man broken.

Get one that gives a crystal clear picture one with top optics.I would go to the store when it is dark outside and they will probably let you take it outside and try it.Have three or four models with you and see with which of them you are able to define some object clearer.

quote:

Originally posted by Rule 303:
... I am one who does not worry if the tube is 30mm. Probably the toughest scopoe I have is a Nightforce NXS 2.5-10X32. If I was limited to 1 scope only on a hunt and no back up it would be this scope above all others.

I do know that anything that is man made can be man broken.

That is a very interesting option, almost a "Straight Tube," AND IT WILL FIT on a CZ 550 Magnum without extension-ring machinations, and plenty rugged.
It is only 19.0 oz. and 12.0" long, an NXS Compact scope:

http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...locity-reticle-matte

Nightforce NXS Compact Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 2.5-10x 32mm Illuminated Medium Velocity Reticle Matte

$1,416.00
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Product Information
Nightforce NXS Compact 2.5-10x rifle scopes are among the most versatile optics available and are the choice optic for hunters, law enforcement officers and tactical match shooters. Each Nightforce NXS Compact Rifle Scope has an objective lens assembly that focuses light rays more precisely for exceptional image clarity and color accuracy. Nightforce Compact scopes also feature multi-coated lenses, resettable tactical turrets and a detachable power throw level that attaches directly to the power selection ring. The 2.5-10x combines a versatile magnification range with a large exit pupil for fast target acquisition. Nightforce NXS Rifle Scopes must pass rigorous tests before leaving the factory in North Central Idaho so you are assured of getting a scope of the highest possible quality. Waterproof, fogproof and shockproof. Covered by a limited lifetime warranty.

Technical Information

Tube Diameter: 30mm
Adjustment Click Value: 1/4 MOA
Adjustment Type: Click
Exposed Turrets: Yes
Finger Adjustable Turrets: Yes
Turrets Resettable to Zero: Yes
Zero Stop: No
Turret Height: Medium
Fast Focus Eyepiece: Yes
Lens Coating: Fully multi-coated
Warranty: Limited Lifetime
Rings Included: No
Sunshade Included: No
Sunshade Length: N/A
Lens Covers Included: Yes
Power Variability: Variable
Min power: 2.5x
Max power: 10x
Reticle Construction: Glass Etched
Reticle: Medium Velocity-600
Illuminated Reticle: Yes
Battery Type: CR2032 3V Lithium (1) included
Holdover reticle: Yes
Reticle Focal Plane Location: 2nd
Parallax Adjustment: Fixed
Finish: Matte
Water/Fogproof: Yes
Shockproof: Yes
Objective Bell Diameter: 39mm
Ocular Bell Diameter: 40mm
Eye Relief: 3.7"
Exit Pupil Diameter: 13.3-3.3mm
Weight: 19.0 oz.
Max Internal Adjustment:
Windage: 100 MOA
Elevation: 100 MOA

Field of View at 100 Yards:
44' @ 2.5x
11' @ 10x

Dimensions, in inches unless otherwise stated :
A: 12.00
B: 5.70
C:
D:
E:
F:
G: 1.53
H: 1.57

Another NXS Compact scope that would definitely require extension rings on a CZ 550 Magnum.
The ring spacing here is shorter than for a Leupold 2.5X Ultralight:

http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...lluminated-ihr-matte

Nightforce NXS Compact Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 1-4x 24mm Hi-Speed Zero Stop Illuminated IHR Matte

$1,514.00
Status: Available
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Product Information
Shop more Nightforce products Nightforce NXS Compact 1-4x rifle scopes are among the most versatile optics available and are the choice optic for dangerous game hunters, law enforcement officers and 3-gunners alike. One added feature of the NXS Compacts is the detachable power throw lever that threads to the power knob for rapid magnification changes. Each Nightforce NXS Compact Rifle Scope has an objective lens assembly that focuses light rays more precisely for exceptional image clarity and color accuracy. Nightforce Compact scopes also feature multi-coated lenses, resettable tactical turrets and a detachable power throw level that attaches directly to the power selection ring. The 1-4x combines a versatile low magnification range with a large exit pupil for fast target acquisition. Nightforce NXS Rifle Scopes must pass rigorous tests before leaving the factory in North Central Idaho so you are assured of getting a scope of the highest possible quality. Waterproof, fogproof and shockproof. Covered by a limited lifetime warranty.

Technical Information

Tube Diameter: 30mm
Adjustment Click Value: 1/4 MOA
Adjustment Type: Click
Exposed Turrets: Yes
Finger Adjustable Turrets: Yes
Turrets Resettable to Zero: Yes
Zero Stop: Yes
Turret Height: Medium
Fast Focus Eyepiece: Locking eyepiece
Lens Coating: Fully multi-coated
Warranty: Lifetime
Rings Included: No
Sunshade Included: No
Sunshade Length: N/A
Lens Covers Included: Yes
Power Variability: Variable
Min power: 1x
Max power: 4x
Reticle Construction: Glass etched
Reticle: IHR
Illuminated Reticle: Yes
Battery Type: CR2032 3V (1) included
Holdover reticle: No
Reticle Focal Plane Location: 2nd
Parallax Adjustment: Fixed
Finish: Matte
Water/Fogproof: Yes
Shockproof: Yes
Objective Bell Diameter: 30mm
Ocular Bell Diameter: 33mm
Eye Relief: 3.5"
Exit Pupil Diameter: 24.0-6.0mm
Weight: 17.0 oz
Max Internal Adjustment:
Windage: 100 MOA
Elevation: 100 MOA

Field of View at 100 Yards:
100' @ 1x
25' @ 4x

Dimensions, in inches unless otherwise stated :
A: 8.8
B: 5.4
C: -
D: -
E: 3.4
F: N/A
G: 1.18
H: 1.29

Since we are considering "Almost Straight Tube" scopes now, as all-arounders on big bores, gotta mention the one that Saeed has had NO problems with on the ".375/404 Jeffery Saeed" since circa 1996.
I think he last zeroed his scopes in 1997, one each on the two .375/404 rifles. No problem since. No adjustments needed after 16 or more month-long, annual expeditions. Really?
Those two scopes have survived Walter, as well as loaner use by guests, the annual shooting contests with all camp staff using them,
and Saeed running all over Africa with no sling, African Carry all the way!

The Leupold website shows this scope on the shelf currently with Standard Duplex and Boone&Crockett reticles.
I have found them on the shelf in the past with Fine-Duplex, Heavy-Duplex, and Mildot reticles as well.
Not offerred with illuminated reticle.


Before I knew of Saeed's exploits with this scope, it was already a favorite of mine.

The most standard version of it is often sold out at Midway USA,
so a lot of other shooters/hunters/riflecranks must like it too, lot of 5-Star reviews there:

By Javier
from Albuquerque, NM
"I've been using Leupolds for 40-some years of shooting. This model is by far my favorite hunting scope, combining an ideal magnification range, clarity, weight and toughness for hunting in the mountains."
Yep. Good for hunting anywhere. And it even fits on a CZ 550 Magnum without extension rings!!!

http://www.leupold.com/hunting...pes/vx-3-2-5-8x36mm/

VX-3 2.5-8x36mm

Ingrained with the thrill of the hunt, the new VX-3 drastically improves optical performance, mechanical function, and durability. We've pushed it to the limit, so you can push yourself to yours. Leupold VX-3, the new standard in riflescope performance.

Actual Magnification 2.60 x 7.80 x
Linear Field of View (ft/100 yd) 37.50 ft 13.70 ft
Linear Field of View (m/100 m) 12.50 m 4.60 m

Eye Relief (in) 4.50 in 3.60 in ......................................... 4.50" ER on the low power setting, per the Leupold website specs. OUTSTANDING!

Exit Pupil Diameter at 2.60X actual low power >>> 13.8 mm

Eye Relief (mm) 114.00 mm 91.00 mm
Weight (oz) 11.40 oz
Weight (g) 323.00 g
Objective Clear Aperture (in) 1.40 in
Objective Clear Aperture (mm) 36.00 mm
Elevation Adjustment Range 74.00 moa
Windage Adjustment Range 74.00 moa



A. Length 11.40 in
B. Tube Length 5.10 in
C. Illustration 1.60 in
D. Illustration 2.30 in
E. Eyepiece Length 3.10 in
F. Objective Length 3.00 in
G. Objective Diameter 1.70 in
H. Eyepiece Diameter 1.60 in
K. Tube Diameter 1.00 in

http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...duplex-reticle-matte

Leupold VX-3 Rifle Scope 2.5-8x 36mm Duplex Reticle Matte
$399.99
Status: Out of Stock, Backorder OK
Date expected in stock: 10/14/2013
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Product Information
The redesigned Leupold VX-3 Rifle Scope combines years of optical technology into one package to create a rifle scope that will become a favorite of hunters and shooters. The Quantum Optical System with Xtended Twilight lens technology advances beyond index matched lenses by specifically targeting the color spectrum that is most present in those critical final minutes of fading light, allowing you to clearly see targets for longer. The lenses also feature the Diamondcoat 2 lens coating which provides abrasion resistance and are edge-blackened to improve resolution by reducing glare. The precision twin spring erector has cryogenically treated adjustments to provide the utmost precision and 30 percent more holding force to ensure reliability. The fast focus eye piece allows for quick adjustments in the field at times when a split second might mean the difference between filling your tag and going home empty-handed. Every Leupold VX-3 Rifle Scope is water, fog and shockproof and is purged with second generation argon/krypton gas. Covered by the Leupold Full Lifetime Guarantee.

Technical Information

Tube Diameter: 1"
Objective Diameter: 43mm
Ocular Diameter: 36mm

Adjustment Click Value: 1/4 MOA
Eye Relief: 4-3.7"

Field of View at 100 Yards:
37.5' @ 2.5x
13.7'@ 8x

Length: 11.4"
Weight: 11.4 oz.

Notes:

Warranty:
Leupold Full Lifetime Guarantee - Transferrable lifetime warranty against manufacturing or material defects.

Same scope with other reticle options:
Leupold VX-3 Rifle Scope 2.5-8x 36mm Boone & Crockett Reticle Matte

http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...ockett-reticle-
matte
$479.99
Status: Available
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quote:

Originally posted by PD999:
That new Swaro is indeed a thing of beauty!

PD999,
It is on my wish list, but on this side of the pond I can get 5 Leupold VX-3 2.5-8X36mm scopes for that price, and keep some coin. (sigh)

What is the price comparison in London, UK for the Swarovski vs Leupold?

On my side of the pond:

SWAROVSKI Z6i 2nd Generation Extended Eye Relief Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 1-6x 24mm: $2399.00 minimum,
about $2500 to cover all reticle options.
vs.
LEUPOLD VX-3 2.5-8x36mm: $399.99 minimum,
about $500 will cover all reticle options.

In USA: $2500 for one scope vs. $500 for the other, roughly speaking.

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:

PD999, What is the price comparison in London, UK for the Swarovski vs Leupold?

I usually get my scopes from MacLeod's of Tain (in Scotland); regarded by many as having fantastic customer service, as well as being the only UK dealer to have been chosen by Swarovski UK to sell their "seconds" (scopes from Austria with very slight blemishes, but with staggering discounts, and with completely full guarantees; true bargain scopes)!

New scope price is approximately £1500 ie similar to US prices:
http://www.rmacleod.co.uk/NEW%...PES%20IN%20STOCK.pdf (7th Sept 2013 pricelist: page 4, midway point)

Second-hand scope prices are here:
http://www.rmacleod.co.uk/CUST...H%20STOCK%20LIST.pdf

Swarovski's full 10 year warranty, and true Extended Eye Relief, means I own a total of 8 of these exact models

And I can get even more of the Nikons than the Leupolds.

For plains game $200 gets an Inline Muzzleloader, though the 3-9 power has an objective bell. For a similar price one can get a 75 yard parallax 1.65-5 power Slughunter. For under $300 one gets a straight-tube Monarch. These are all premium scopes. Nikon has set an incredible standard for today's hunting.

MacLeod's of Tain (in Scotland)

http://www.rmacleod.co.uk/shooting.htm

McLeod's Firsts:
SWAROVSKI Z6I 1-6X24 11 4-1 EE £1,660.00 £1,495.00
SWAROVSKI Z6I 1-6X24 11 CD-I £1,660.00 £1,495.00

McLeod's Seconds:
RIFLESCOPE - 7770 SWAROVSKI Z6I 1-6X24 4I EE CATEGORY 1 £1,140.0
RIFLESCOPE - 7772 SWAROVSKI Z6I 1-6X24 BRT-I CATEGORY 1 £1,140.0

1.56 exchange rate ... Aye, I'll take the blem.

The Clan McLeod, eh?
Any of the Clan named Connor or Duncan and carrying a samurai sword about the establishment for use as a letter opener?

No Leupold scopes in the list ...

If a McLeod wanted to cut off the head of a Leupold seller in order to encourage Swarovski sales,
where would he go to find the price of a Leupold VX-3 2.5-8X 36mm in UK?

For 416Tanzan, and to keep the interesting scope specs on one thread for easy reference:

This one used to retail for $189 before it was discontinued by Nikon. It would be the perfect elephant hunting scope, mounted low on a .458 B&M with sub-20" barrel:





Nikon Buckmaster 1x20 Matte Nikoplex Scope (DISCONTINUED MODEL)

The Nikon Buckmaster 1x20 delivers amazing light transmission and a 20mm exit pupil for bright viewing at dawn, dusk or in poor weather. The Nikoplex reticle provides easy aiming and the low magnification creates a huge field of view. And it is legal in states where zero magnification is required.

The Nikon Buckmaster is famous among hunters – you simply won’t find a better combination of critical light transmission, must-have features, and rugged durability. With the Buckmasters riflescope family, there’s a perfect match for every hunter and every hunting style, whether it’s rifle, rimfire or blackpowder.

Long considered the standard hunting reticle, the plex design's heavy outer posts direct the eye toward the finer crosshairs at the reticle center for fast target acquisition.

Features:
Brightvue™ multicoating - Bright, multicoating optics deliver up to 92% light transmission.
Large exit pupils - Improved low light hunting at dawn or dusk, when the game is usually moving.
Quick focus eyepiece - Allows the shooter to instantly bring the reticle into sharp focus.
Waterproof, fogproof, shockproof - Nitrogen filled and O-ring sealed.
Precise, hand-turn 1/4-MOA click adjustments - Positive-click reticle adjustments get you zeroed-in quicker and maintain your setting even with heavy recoil.

Specifications:
Reticle: Nikoplex
Finish: Matte
Actual Magnification: 1x
Effective Objective Diameter: 20mm
Exit Pupil (mm): 20
Eye Relief (in.): 4.3-13.0 ............................. Like a scout scope, only better. Usable from 4.3" to 13" of eye relief.
FOV at 100 yds (ft.): 52.5**
Tube Diameter: 1 in.
Objective O.D. (mm/in): 25.4/1.0
Eyepiece O.D. (mm/in): 42.0/1.65
Length (in): 9.1
Weight (oz): 10.6
Adjustment Graduation (1 click): 1/2 MOA
Max. Internal Adjustment: 80 MOA
Parallax setting (yds): 75 **FOV @ 75 yds (ft.)

Nice.

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:
If a McLeod wanted to cut off the head of a Leupold seller in order to encourage Swarovski sales, where would he go to find the price of a Leupold VX-3 2.5-8X 36mm in UK?

Leupold are harder to find in the UK, and the prices for US equipment would be appreciably higher than in the US (usually a GB£ sign is used to replace the US$ value i.e. a 50% mark-up just for shipping across the pond)!

Euro scope prices fluctuate with the Euro€-to-GB£ exchange rate; but on the whole the UK prices are similar to US prices for Euro scopes.

BTW, it's MacLeod, not McLeod (the Mac and Mc clans can be different)
Peter

quote:

Originally posted by PD999:

BTW, it's MacLeod, not McLeod (the Mac and Mc clans can be different)
Peter

Blimey! Pardon the Irish 63/64ths of me for that one!
I hear the Clan McGee is Irish too.
Thanks for the further education.

My sister-in-law is Scottish, and explains that the Scottish clan system is very complex, just like their varied whisky types!
They are very protective of their heritage and traditions eg the clan tartan designs are protected under Scottish Law

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:

quote:

Originally posted by Heym SR20:
I have an old 1-4x20 nickel scope in the drawer. Completely straight with good eyerelief. German post reticle. I just need a rifle to fit it to.

Modern day version is at http://www.nickel-ag.com/en/pr...s/scopes/1425cx.aspx

That is very interesting indeed!
Very light for size: Huge 36mm tube and 30mm objective glass, and only 13.2 - 14.3 oz. depending on illuminated or not!

But how much do the 36mm rings weigh?



Nickel 1-4x25 CX without rail


Model Nickel 1-4x25 CX Nickel 1-4x25 CX (Isodot)
weight 375 g (13.2 oz.) 404 g (14.3 oz.)
ocular tube diameter 36 mm (1.4 in.)
middle tube diameter 30 mm (1.181 in.)
objective tube diameter 30 mm (1.2 in.)
length A 279 mm (11 in.)
B 99 mm (3.9 in.)
C 69.25 mm (2.7 in.)
D 66.75 mm (2.6 in.)
G 12 mm (0.5 in.)
magnification 1 - 4
effective lense diameter 18 - 25 mm (0.7 - 1 in.)
exit pupil 18 - 6.25 mm (0.7 - 0.2 in.)
twilight efficacy 4.2 - 10
field of view 32 - 10 m at 100m (96 - 30 ft. at 100 yd.) 36 - 10 m at 100m (108 - 30 ft. at 100 yd.)
eye relief 80 mm (3.1 in.)
adjustment range 360 cm/100m (129.6 in. at 100 yd.)
adjustment per click 2 cm/100m (0.72 in. at 100 yd.)



Illuminated Reticle Isodot
Subtension:
Dot 1x 22 cm/100m
7,91 in/100yd
4x 5,5 cm/100m
1,98 in/100yd



Reticle 4
Subtension:
Horizontal post distance 208,6 cm/100m
75,1 in/100yd
Crosshair 3,5 cm/100m
1,27 in/100yd
Post 35,1 cm/100m
12,65 in/100yd

The 36mm is actually the diameter of the eyepiece - the main tube is a 30mm tube.

They also do a Magnum Scope with 4.9" of eyerelief and again small eyepiece diameter - but reassuringly expensive - I don't seem though to be able to copy across the pictures - http://www.nickel-ag.com/en/pr...s/scopes/15630.aspx!

Nickel Magnum 1.5-6x30 EDS

The real safari riflescope:

125 mm (4.9 in.) eye relief!
Safari hunters and users of large caliber weapons with heavy recoil need additional safety with long eye relief.
Excellent handling with low mounting height.
Especially low mounting heights have been achieved through a systematic slim-line construction of the Nickel Magnum scope. The small ocular diameter ensures undisturbed repetition action and allows free access for locking and handling the rifle. This applies in particular to repeating rifles with the Mauser 98 System.
The cartridge ejection port is mainly kept free by the special arrangement of the reticle adjustment. This means that you can comfortably load, unload and/or re-load despite a lowmounting scope.


Technical data and reticle subtension


L1 Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 ED, B1, L1

without rail
Illuminated Reticle L1 for day use in the 1st image plane (magnifying)
Illumination system B1
usually ships in 1-2 business days

Price: 2836 EUR

Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 EDS, B1, L1

with rail
Illuminated Reticle L1 for day use in the 1st image plane (magnifying)
Illumination system B1
usually ships in 1-2 weeks

Price: 2881 EUR


4 Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 ED, 4

without rail
Reticle 4 in the 1st image plane (magnifying)
usually ships in 1-2 weeks

Price: 2351 EUR

Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 EDS, 4

with rail
Reticle 4 in the 1st image plane (magnifying)
usually ships in 1-2 weeks

Price: 2396 EUR

Heym SR20:
I screwed the pooch on that one (Nickel 1-4x25 CX).
Thanks for calling it.
Clears up my amazement.
Objective tube 30mm, objective lens "one inch" then.
But from the picture, the ocular tube diameter is way bigger than 36mm, must be an ocular lens diameter of 36mm?
The Nickel link you posted gives me an "error" message, otherwise blank page.
I will look for the scope ... Nickel Magnum 1.5-6x30 EDS ...

Nickel Magnum 1.5-6x30 EDS

13" long, over 8" of ring space, and 4.9" eye relief, yet only 14.9 ounces.

This one, the ocular tube might actually be 36mm.
I think they booboo-ed spec for ocular tube diameter on the other one (1-4x25 CX).

1-6x30 EDS: Objective tube is 36mm diameter on this one.
So both the objective lens and the ocular lens are 30mm diameter: Very nice balance there, somehow aesthetic.
I wouldn't mind owning one or two or more of these Nickel 1-6x30 EDS scopes. Just money!

http://www.nickel-ag.com/en/pr...ts/scopes/15630.aspx

(Remove the terminal "!" from Heym SR20's link?)



Nickel Magnum 1.5-6x30 EDS
The real safari riflescope:
125 mm (4.9 in.) eye relief!
Safari hunters and users of large caliber weapons with heavy recoil need additional safety with long eye relief.
Excellent handling with low mounting height.
Especially low mounting heights have been achieved through a systematic slim-line construction of the Nickel Magnum scope. The small ocular diameter ensures undisturbed repetition action and allows free access for locking and handling the rifle. This applies in particular to repeating rifles with the Mauser 98 System.
The cartridge ejection port is mainly kept free by the special arrangement of the reticle adjustment. This means that you can comfortably load, unload and/or re-load despite a lowmounting scope.



Illuminated Reticle L1:

The Illuminated Reticle L1 is a new illuminated version of the reticle 1.
Target coverage is minimized because of the illuminated post tip which is clearly separated from the vertical post and the thin horizontal bars.
Subtension:
Horizontal post distance: 106,9 cm/100m or 38,5 in/100yd

Reticle 4:

Subtension:
Horizontal post distance: 106,9 cm/100m or 38,5 in/100yd
Crosshair: 1,8 cm/100m or 0,65 in/100yd
Post: 18 cm/100m or 6,49 in/100yd

Model
Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 EDS without rail
Model Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 ED
weight 422 g (14.9 oz.)
ocular tube diameter 36 mm (1.4 in.)
middle tube diameter 30 mm (1.181 in.)
objective tube diameter 36 mm (1.4 in.)
length A 331 mm (13 in.)
B 86 mm (3.4 in.)
C 98 mm (3.9 in.)
D 55 mm (2.2 in.)
E 60 mm (2.4 in.)
F 35 mm (1.4 in.)
G 12 mm (0.5 in.)
magnification 1.5 - 6
effective lense diameter 30 mm (1.2 in.)
exit pupil 20 - 5 mm (0.8 - 0.2 in.)
twilight efficacy 6.71 - 13.4
field of view 15 - 5.5 m at 100m (45 - 16.5 ft. at 100 yd.)
eye relief 125 mm (4.9 in.)
adjustment range 180 cm/100m (64.8 in. at 100 yd.)
adjustment per click 1 cm/100m (0.36 in. at 100 yd.)

Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 EDS with rail
Model Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 EDS
weight 470 g (16.6 oz.)
(other specs ditto above)
This riflescope features the German standard rail.

Generic scope pic for tube measurements (above) legend:


Illumination System B1
*5-level illumination system
*absolutely even illumination
*power consumption reduced by 87%
*no flashlight effect

© 2012 J. E. Gerhardt GmbH & Co. KG. All rights reserved.
info@jeg.de

Illuminated reticle, without rail: 2836 EUR = $3771.88 (USD)
Long on length and price.
1 USD = 0.75 EURO, 1 EURO = 1.33 USD.

Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 ED, B1, L1
without rail
Illuminated Reticle L1 for day use in the 1st image plane (magnifying)
Illumination system B1
usually ships in 1-2 business days
Price: 2836 EUR

Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 EDS, B1, L1
with rail
Illuminated Reticle L1 for day use in the 1st image plane (magnifying)
Illumination system B1
usually ships in 1-2 weeks
Price: 2881 EUR


Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 ED, 4
without rail
Reticle 4 in the 1st image plane (magnifying)
usually ships in 1-2 weeks
Price: 2351 EUR

Nickel Magnum 1,5-6x30 EDS, 4
with rail
Reticle 4 in the 1st image plane (magnifying)
usually ships in 1-2 weeks
Price: 2396 EUR

RIP

Are you bored?



Try some of Doc M's "PIE" or even some Tennessee sipping

Rip-- you get to take out VAT tax on those for us state side--I think its like 19%...still expensive.

Ed

quote:

Originally posted by Sean Russell:
RIP

Are you bored?



Try some of Doc M's "PIE" or even some Tennessee sipping

Yep, bored, heap big bored.
Building a scope reference thread here.
They are starting to stock Buffalo Trace in some bars in Washington DC.
There is hope.

quote:

Originally posted by 505ED:
Rip-- you get to take out VAT tax on those for us state side--I think its like 19%...still expensive.

Ed

Great!
So maybe only about $3200 for a Nickel 1-6x30 EDS instead of 10 Nikon 1-4x20 Monarchs.

European VAT is 20%, so you can save that before any discounts
But you'll need to add overseas shipping, insurance, and custom fees!

Gotta admit the Big Bore Forum is not as active as it used to be.
If not for McCourry Institute of Ballistics, this place would be really big-boring.
Hence the need for a big-boring scope reference thread.

Maybe it's due to the economic downturn?
Has everyone gone over to the teeny-weeny caliber section?

Nah, as long as RIP has one of his ideas for a new big-bore, things will be interesting.

Ha, ha.
Cheers, .395 Family Member Max. Very exclusive club that is.

This one is going to work nicely on a .395 Ruger Max:

http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...cope-1-4x-20mm-matte

They don't call it "African" anymore:
Nikon MONARCH 3 Rifle Scope 1-4x 20mm Matte
$229.95 - $279.95
Save $50.00 (17%)
Sale expires 10/27/2013
Product Information:
The Nikon Monarch 3 rifle scope is a low profile, compact scope that is great for use when finding your target quickly is essential to your success. Powered by Nikon Ultra ClearCoat Optical System, the MONARCH 3 reaches unparalleled levels of clarity and light transmission from dusk until dawn. The MONARCH 3 line of scopes are 100% weatherproof and the rugged 1-piece tube will prove to be the most durable and highest performance optic hunters and shooters will top a firearm with.




Technical Information

Tube Diameter: 1"
Adjustment Click Value: 1/4 MOA
Adjustment Type: Click
Exposed Turrets: Capped
Finger Adjustable Turrets: Yes
Turrets Resettable to Zero: Yes
Zero Stop: No
Turret Height: Medium
Fast Focus Eyepiece: Yes
Lens Coating: Fully multi-coated
Warranty: Limited lifetime
Rings Included: No
Sunshade Included: No
Sunshade Length: N/A
Lens Covers Included: Yes
Power Variability: Variable
Min power: 1x
Max power: 4x
Reticle Construction: Wire
Illuminated Reticle: No
Battery Type: N/A
Holdover reticle: No
Reticle Focal Plane Location: 2nd
Parallax Adjustment: Side Focus
Finish: Matte
Water/Fogproof: Yes
Shockproof: Yes
Objective Bell Diameter: N/A
Ocular Bell Diameter: N/A
Eye Relief: 4.0"
Exit Pupil Diameter: 5-20mm
Weight: 12.2 oz.
Max Internal Adjustment:
Windage: 120 MOA
Elevation: 120 MOA

Field of View at 100 Yards:
23.1' @ 1x
92.9' @ 4x

Dimensions, in inches unless otherwise stated :
A: 14.7 10.25"
B: N/A

Reticle:
German #4
Status: Out of Stock, Backorder OK
Date expected in stock: 03/21/2014
FREE SHIPPING
Standard Ground
$279.95

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/cu...ght-rifle-scope.html

Leupold FX-II 2.5x20 Ultralight Riflescope



Leupold FX-II 2.5x20 Ultralight Riflescope Personalized by Leupold Custom Shop Product Info
The following spec is for a standard model of Leupold FX-II 2.5x20 Ultralight Riflescopeimage. Please note that if you select one of the custom rifle scope options, the standard specs for the riflescope might change according to your selection.
The Leupold FX-II 2.5x20mm Ultralight Rifle Scope will be appreciated by a variety of shooters. The Leupold 2.5x Ultralight Scope is appropriate on everything from large caliber rifles to shotguns and muzzleloaders. Crossbow archers will also find the FX-II 2.5 x 20mm Ultralight Rifle-Scope from Leupold well suited to their needs. The wide field of view and the generous eye relief allow for quick target acquisition. The 2.5x magnification makes Leupold Riflescope ideal for hunting in dense timber or brush.
Available models:
Leupold 58460 - Matte Black Finish, Heavy Duplex Reticle
Leupold 58450 - Matte Black Finish, Wide Duplex Reticle
Specifications for Leupold FX-II 2.5x20 Ultralight Rifle Scope:

Actual Magnification: 2.3

Length (in): 8.0

Eyepiece Length (in): 2.3

Objective Length (in): -----

Objective Diameter (in): 1.0

Eyepiece Diameter (in): 1.36

Tube Diameter: 1.0in

Weight: 6.5 oz. / 184 grams ..............

Eye Relief (in): 4.9 ...............

Eye Relief (mm): 124

Obj. Lens Diameter: 0.8in / 20mm

Max. Adjustment @ 100 yds (in): 147

Max. Adjustment @ 100 m (cm): 408

FOV @ 100 yds (ft): 39.5

FOV @ 100 m (m): 13.2

Ring Spacing

Max. Mount Ring Spacing (in): 5.8

Front Ring Space (in): 1.8

Rear Ring Space (in): 2.3

Features of Leupold FX-II 2.5 x 20 Ultralight Rifle Scope:
Multicoat 4 lens system
1/4 MOA click windage and elevation dials
Leupold Full Lifetime Guarantee
Package Contents:
Leupold FX-II 2.5x20mm Ultralight Riflescope
In addition to Leupold FX-II 2.5x20mm Ultralight Riflescope Personalized by Leupold Custom Shop, don't miss the other Leupold Riflescopes and other Leupold products offered in our store.
Leupold FX-II 2.5x20mm Ultralight Rifle Scope can also be purchased without personalization and customization options. Please see Leupold FX-II 2.5x20mm Ultralight Rifle Scope for specifications and pricing details.
Leupold FX-II 2.5x20 Ultralight Riflescope Personalized by Leupold Custom Shop Similar Products

RIP:

This is what I have on my 500 Jeffery. It is a very durable rifle scope and works perfectly on a big boomer.

Dave,
I am with you on that. Never had a problem with them on .458-and-up hard kickers.
Of course Doc M claims to have broken some of them.
He has a real talent for breaking things.

$339.99 MSRP from Leupold, $269.99 from opticsplanet.com
This guy probably agrees with you also:
Author: Roadkill (verified customer) , Engineer, Soldier, CCW Instructor, Hunter, from Foster City, CA on Dec 14, 2012
Pros: Light, rugged, reticule is easily made out in low light
Cons: No frills, it could be difficult to find caps that fit the lens
Would recommend: yes
Roadkill wrote:
I purchased this scope for my CZ-527 7.62x39mm carbine. I intended it for a light, quick handling deer and small game rifle. I specified the German #1 reticule because I felt it matched the character of the rifle. 8 weeks later, the custom scope arrived and it meets my expectations so far. Very light, the bolt throw is not interfered with by the bell of the scope with medium warne rings. The eye relief is perfect for this particular gun.

I have used the Leupold Vari-XII 1-4 and Vari-XIII 1.5-5 on several rifles over the years...they have never let me down!!
Cheers,

I have an almost like new Leupold VX3 1.5 x 5 Matte with Duplex reticle for sale in the classifieds for $299 shipped.

Take a look if your interested.

I picked up a gently used Z6 1-6 EE for a song on another forum and man, does that scope have some clear optics and truly wonderful eye relief! I have it mounted in Talleys on a custom .458 Lott purchased from a forum member here. Makes for my ideal package. Now if I only could have picked one up in illuminated reticle, my unicorn would be complete...

Also check out the Leupold VX-6 1-6. Plenty clear although perhaps a little portly. Great glass too!

I had one of the Nightforce NXS compacts (1-4) mounted on my .375 and that thing is so robust you could pound nails with it! It did look out of place though so it got pulled off and put into a Larue mount on my BCM Recce-style AR. With a zero stop and good drop chart, I figure I'm lethal to about 600 yards out of the 16" barrel. Now back to your originally-scheduled Big Bore discussion...

-John

quote:

Originally posted by John Galt:
I picked up a gently used Z6 1-6 EE for a song... Now if I only could have picked one up in illuminated reticle...

An excellent non-illuminated scope for the hard-kickers; I have a total of 8 of these exact models!
But regarding the illuminated version of these scopes: I was warned by a couple of my buddies who had these illuminated models on their .458+ rifles, that the electronics eventually get shattered. Common for any illuminated scopes on the big-bores.
The Swarovski guarantee is now 10 years non-quibble mechanical (pretty much the best in class), but it's only 2 years for electronics (average for illuminated scope manufacturers).
So decided to get the 1st Gen of these models, before the respective current 2nd Gen EE models came out, which unfortunately are illuminated-only.
Still, cracking scopes; but expensive!

I am using a trijicon 1x4 on my 416 B&M and it did great on buff and elle last year. However for more all-around use I am considering a trijicon 3x9 with a green dot. everyone here extolls low power scopes--except Saeed , who probably has shot more DG than the total of half of us here on AR and who uses a 3x9. just got me thinking - and of course it will be great for leopard.

SSR

quote:

Originally posted by Sean Russell:
--except Saeed , who probably has shot more DG than the total of half of us here on AR and who uses a 3x9 ...
SSR

Yes, look upwards and read about Saeed's favorite all-purpose scope, mine too:

http://www.leupold.com/hunting...pes/vx-3-2-5-8x36mm/

VX-3 2.5-8x36mm

No it does not come in an illuminated version, and more rugged for it, eh, PD999?