Here be beginnings of the infamous yet enigmatic .666" Teufel rifle.

Such beautiful dies from CH4D?
Did you photoshop those or what?

No Photoshopping here. Right out of the packing with grease still on em and everything.

The TiN coating on polished surfaces is nice!

Congratulations.
Pioneering a new caliber is a good shout at the devil.
Here's mud in yer eye.

Since the 400/.395NE dies were done in the same heat treat batch as those, this bodes well.

Looks like you might be running low on the cognitive magnifier RIP! Is that the eye of one of your household pets??

I have everything lined up except the stock. Thinking it might need to be made from......Osage, Hickory, or Pecan.

Seems a rifle designated "der Teufel" should be adorned with a stock made of bloodwood....

Congrats, Macifej! When finished, you'll have to go to one of those Texas Big Bore shoots.
Uh, do you know anyone who can make you some bullets?

Macifej,
I got down to the last jigger of Ratzeputz and mixed it with Buffalo Trace to make a double jigger of "Buffelputz."

I have the token cape buffalo and bison head as pets, jahwohl.

Better dot yer eyes and cross yer tees with the ATFE and Kalifornistan on The Devil Rifle. We don't want any new kind of DGR (Dangerous Government Rifle), just a regular sporting DGR with no Unintended Consequences.

My other pet:

Yep! The whole package will go off to our respective regulatory agencies for approval prior to any public debut.

Are you gentlemen out of Putz????

How about that Arnbitter?

That .666 Teufel project is One WILD child - I like it.

Cheers,

André

All i hear is the .666 TEUFEL rifle, well what action are you guy going to used? And what grain
of bullet?This starting to be fun.SUPER BIG BORE FOREVER.

Action is McMac repeater or BAT SS or whatever BMG action you want to bastardize. The bullet is about 1200 grains.

WE ARE OUT OF RATZEPUTZ AND THINGS ARE LOOKING DIRE!!! I still have a good amount of Arnbitter left and am savoring the stuff!! The Killepitsch is going very fast but I can buy that locally.

Looks like we'll have some FN's SHarkee style run next week. (.666" x 1.50")

Will that be 1200 grains in brass or copper?
Do you have a barrel maker lined up? Until you do, the bullets will be like the hard rock candy of Chief Lone Watie, good for lookin' at.

Also, a single bullet will make a darn fine paper weight for your desk, or a door stop good for any home or office.

Pimp my Die? You gonna shoot it homeboy style now?-Rob

I hear that canting the rifle 90 degrees to the left and grasping the forearm with a thumb-over-barrel-and-fingers-wrap-around grip (barrel against thumb web) results in excellent torque control, with right-hand twist barrels. The horizontal aligngment of butt pad should be placed just below the clavicle to avoid shoulder girdle fractures, and a scout scope or iron sights canted 90 degrees to the right are a necessity for best accuracy and avoidance of skull fractures.

Gonna do brass for the first run. Could easily do copper but the brass makes a nicer product that's tougher on targets.

I could TiN the whole rifle for you Rob!!! And you can shoot it homeee style off the hip!

I have a line on a Canadian Barrel maker who'll do one off's but I can go the usual route with the usual suspects if I want to make five barrels at a whack.

Who wants a barrel?

Rip?

Rob?

Rich?

Jim?

Twist? Somewhere in the range of 1:6.66" to 1:16.66"?

Barrel shank diameter? 1.500 to 1.666"

Groove diameter .666", so is 0.656" aggressive enough for the land diameter?

Price?

The devil is in the details.

quote:

Twist? Somewhere in the range of 1:6.66" to 1:16.66"?

I like 1:9.99..

Hmmmmm.......er....uh?.....yep!

1:16 twist is plenty I'd say

.666 x .656 is also good

1.5 - 16 TPI threads on the barrel shank is pretty standard for the actions you'd want.

Cost probably about $600.00 per barrel in quantities of five including the tooling etc.

Macifej- Sure Its wacky enough for my tastes. I'm in for a barrel. I assume you talked to Chris at Pac-Nor. He used to be pretty reasonably about this stuff. Do you have the dimensions for the dies and cartridge? I'll make my own dies. TiNitriding the action REALLY is PIMP STYLE! I've seen it done YUCK! Perhaps a special run with 12 inch barrels for the Oakland Bros!SBR registration? They will sell like candy! No drive-by will be the same without one!-Rob

Need to call Pac Nor. They are pretty reasoanble when doing quantity. No TiN on the weapons. Can forward you a case drawing.

I assume you will want a 2"shank and I suggest you go with a profile similar to my 12GaFH barrel. This is on the .50BMG case right? Full length or shortened? Be carefull of the McMillian repeater action if you shorten things too much. It will require a great deal of feed work. Been there and done that! Another option is a Maadi Griffin/ Pauza SS. They are cheap and easily made and work well for proofing. makes for a nice short gun too. If it blows up your not out much money. You also might be able to use a ALS SS action for a AR15 lower. That in fact might be a good way to go. I think he will make a Titanium version if you pay the freight.-Rob

If Macifej and Robgunbuilder think:
.656" bore/land
.666" groove
1:16" twist
are good,
Me too.
I'm in for a barrel too.

I have my own hare-brained wildcat herd of turtles I am still trailing, so I might as well add another straggler to the herd.

Doing good ain't got no end.

The first .666 bullet will be interesting see the finished weight.
931-grains = 0.300 SD
1000-grains = 0.322 SD
1200-grains = 0.386 SD

A stubby brass .666-caliber FN that is 1.5" long is pre-production-estimated to weigh what?

Those .510 bullets of 750-grain weight are 2.5 to 2.75" long with Sd = .412".

Twist for them is 12" to 18" or 1:15" happy medium.

The .666 Teufel is not meant for the long VLD bullets, so 1:16" should be great, and then some.

Glad to have Rob's input on the actions and barrel shank diameter. This is new ground for me.

Pay attention to Rob, Bearhead, ya heah?

I will calc out the weight in brass and copper for you this morning. Do you have that drawing?

Yep! 999 Grains in Brass and about 1050 in copper.

The McM and BAT actions are both 1.5-16 thread I believe. If you guys have some idea about what you prefer as far as length, taper, etc speak up and I'll draw them. I'm thinking straight taper 1.875" x 1.125" x 24".

That drawing: yes, may I post it with annotation of twist and bore spec?

You were thinking 999 grains as the weight back in January.

999-grain SD = .32175
1050-grain SD = .338175

RIP - what's the revision date on that drawing you have. If it's 1-16-08 that's the one to post. Carry on! It will be good to get some input from others here.

The file you sent has been reformatted "by hand" to make it easy for me to post.

24" plus brake for a total of 27" eh?

Brake shall be long and lean rather than artillery style juice can......

Destructive Device Exemption from ATFE, as a sporting arm? Limited to single-shot or magazine repeater OK?
That paperwork hassle is beyond my experience but must be accomplished, eh?
So the worm turns ...

Yep! I'm all over the paperwork. Will have it in hand before any assembly takes place. Will forward the letter to interested parties when I have it in my possesion.

In the mean time - work on non regulated components etc. will continue with input from Bubba's far and wide.

Some thoughts on barrel configuration would be helpful. They could be made as cylinder blanks so as to be individualized by each or all the same - braked, finished, & blued.

Hey Mac...

how about necking it down to 577 for 300 yard shots on plainsgame

That would be a gruesome twosome

dont forget the "short Mac" versions of the case...the world needs more wildcats

Big Devil and little Devil...

both kick like hell to be sure.

Boomer!

Just about every possible permutation of the BMG case has been done including the .577/585 in a half dozen varients.

The 666 is a one of a kind with no mods necessary.

oh, sorry...I thought this was a new case...

nevermind

This is a momentous occasion, sure to usher in a new age of peace and tranquility.

Never before has man been able to say to The Devil: "I've got a bullet with your name on it, punk!"



I forsee a switch-barrel: .666 Teufel/.395 Teufel
Might have to shorten the .666 Teufel from 3.75" to 3.25" case length for that one ... nah, too much like the .416 Barrett, I'll leave it 3.75" and just neck it down to .395. It will burn barrels quickly and insure a need for continuing production of .395 caliber barrels.
.395 Rippers at +4000fps should be interesting.

quote:

I forsee a switch-barrel: .666 Teufel/.395 Teufel

Dang it RIP!!!

Now you did it!! I'll be up late for days trying to figure out how to make a lightweight take-down!!!

No paperwork required for a .395"

Maybe it should be a .333" Half Devil??

"Ein halb Teufel"

Hey Mac...

how about making a high B.C. .500 bullet for a .500 BMG? legal everywhere with barrels around. lots of cheap pistol bullets to shoot.

Maybe make it a .499 to be just under.

This is a .666 cal version of my .600RLG and .700RLG that I built about 10-12 years ago. It would chuck 900 gr bullets about 3300fps or so. It weighed about 16lbs and was done on a McMilllan repeater action with a TAC 50 stock. Lotsa fun. Mine will definately be a switch barrel as I used that action for both calibers.-Rob

16 lbs!!!! Ouch!!

Barrel weight minimum with no brake is about 9 lbs.

What does your Mc-Action weigh?

How long is the shank?

OK Bearhead, we'll just have to shoo fly the blow fly: Like magic, the blow fly disappeared as well as a couple of other posts!

Rob's conformation sounds like just the thing for my .666 Teufel/.395 EHT

Here is a pic of the .395 EHT, "Ein Halb Teufel," mockup with a .395/325-grain SHarlow Ripper.
It was done by inserting the neck of a .416 Barrett once-fired case into the bottom portion of a 6mm PPC FL size die and then seating with the 6mm PPC seater die, then crimping with the mouth of a 40S&W FL size die. Next to it is a double-shouldered .458/50-BMG. I can't remember how I did that and do not want to.



Of course I would like to try for a 16-pound .666 Teufel first. The .395 EHT could be lighter. Even at full Teufel length.