Barnes is now making their "Buster" line of flat nose solids for 44,45,458 (45-70) and .500" for ultimate straight line penetration in a copper non deforming solid. I like the option for a 400 grain 45-70 solid for my 45-70 but for other 458's out there this would be interesting.

http://barnesbullets.myshopify...-busters-fn-fb-45-70

Can,t find any pictures ??

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Originally posted by gumboot458:
Can,t find any pictures ??

One picture here.

I just did some test work yesterday with one of our custom made FN solids--CNC Brass .458 caliber at only 350 grs. It was impressive to say the least--33% deeper than a 400 gr 416 caliber Hornady fmj!!!! Straight line penetration. This Barnes should do very well for many things. I would like to have some to play with in my 458 B&M.

Michael

Thanks for the link Charles ......

It looks like a good bullet for the lever rifles and handguns ...... I distrust hard cast bullets ........These 400 gr bullets go back to the 400 gr X bullet it worked great but they quit making them .............

Half of the lack of popularity of the 458 Win and Lott is because they are saddled with bullets far heavier than needed 90 % of the time ... and people think they need all that weight , and recoil ........Barnes used to advertise people using the 400 gr Barnes Super solids on Elephant with sucess . and GS has had success with the 400 gr HV on elephant ....

It would have been good of them to do 2 canalures on the 458 but there is a tool for that.
Michael458... Looks like this might be a good over the counter .500" option for your 500 MDM but I don't know what weight they will be.

we used to use the light barnes RN solid in 450 alaskan .. worked great .. though had to knock about 5 gr off to flatten the nose.

Works great, splatters pigs .. bu a .458 bullet, at 2150, will ALWAYS splatter pigs

Boomie- Too band they aren't doing the same for the 475/480 class pistolas ... Doug's 450gr solid works great in the .470 ar

Boom

Without doubt a new over the counter bullet is always interesting. The .500 version will probably be light-400 grs or so--the 500 MDM will be an option for playing, but a 400 .500 cal would be excellent for the 50 Super Short and the 50 B&M Alaskan lever guns. As for the 458 cal 400 that will be great for 45/70 and the 458 B&M as light backups for softs. Primary in 45/70. Pigs, bears, and lots of other critters.

Like I said I was just working Sat with a 350 solid that JD had been playing with in the 458s. I was very surprised at how well it did. It out performed a 400 gr Hornady FMJ 416. FN is everything. And I was going to put an order in for some of these only adding weight to get it to 400 grs. Thanks for keeping me posted to this, probably saved me a lot of $$$$.

Michael

I would like to see a .510 versionfor my 50 alaskan levergun.

From Barnes's site. " The bullet features a thick copper jacket and a heavy lead core,"

Keith

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Originally posted by Hog Killer:
From Barnes's site. " The bullet features a thick copper jacket and a heavy lead core,"

Keith

Good
They will be shorter.

I'd give them a whirl in my Marlin .45-70. Looks like a very good bullet.

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Originally posted by Hog Killer:
From Barnes's site. " The bullet features a thick copper jacket and a heavy lead core,"

Keith

As opposed to a light lead core? I'd like to see how they take out the calories

Being comfortable with good quality cast bullets I probably wouldn't use them in a revolver. Rifle might be a different story but I bet the 500 caliber bullets will be .500 for the S&W, not .510.

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Originally posted by Hog Killer:
From Barnes's site. " The bullet features a thick copper jacket and a heavy lead core,"

Keith

As opposed to a light lead core? I'd like to see how they take out the calories

Being comfortable with good quality cast bullets I probably wouldn't use them in a revolver. Rifle might be a different story but I bet the 500 caliber bullets will be .500 for the S&W, not .510.

Harry, just tring to make it clear, these are NOT mono-metal bullets.

Keith

I think it is great that they are not monometal as I thought. Less bullet in the case.

now someone with a 460 WBY give them a whirl and see how they hold up

I don't shoot Barns bullets at all. They put to much copper in my barrels.
I shoot the 458 Lott with 500gr & 550gr bullets.
Theses bullets are made for big bores. Not 400gr bullets. If I want to shoot 400gr bullets I wood use my 416 Rem Mag

Sorry to say that Barnes didn't sell enough 400 gr. 458 bullets to keep them in the lineup. I bought the last 600 of them and they have shot many amazing groups at 200 yards out of my 450 Dakota at over 2800 fps. They also pound bison with authority at that high speed. On a frontal quartering shot I have seen them blow all of the petals off on that huge foreleg and penetrate straight through to the opposite hip. It was over 4' of penetration and the wound trail was huge.

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Sorry to say that Barnes didn't sell enough 400 gr. 458 bullets to keep them in the lineup. I bought the last 600 of them and they have shot many amazing groups at 200 yards out of my 450 Dakota at over 2800 fps. They also pound bison with authority at that high speed. On a frontal quartering shot I have seen them blow all of the petals off on that huge foreleg and penetrate straight through to the opposite hip. It was over 4' of penetration and the wound trail was huge.

Blake... a lathe anf the 450's could get you back in business.

If you try these in your Dakota please post your results.

Hey Boom, sorry we missed you last weekend. Next time call me; I got enough FF miles to get you here!

Sorry, through hijacking.

BEWARE shooting a lead core 400 grain at 458 and higher velocity.

The incredibly thick copper jacket of the 500 grain Kodiak with HARDENED lead HIGH ANTIMONY lead core still deformed like a soft point from my 450 Dakota at less than 2,400 fps.

Andy