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I like the 416, 400@ 2,400 from a double.
Load that puppy up with some good flat nose solids Smiler


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Posts: 27616 | Location: Where tech companies are trying to control you and brainwash you. | Registered: 29 April 2005Reply With Quote
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Cartridge actually matches .416 Rigby...410 grn at 2325fps from 24" barrels from my krieghoff

the Beauty of the .416 is you can use a wide selection of bullets and it will work. You don't need speciality bullets to get satisfactory results.
 
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Be interested to hear how your rifle like the new Norma PH (with the 410grn bullets not the 450's)

My experience was that the Kriefghoffs didn't like the 450grn loads at all, so don't waste your money trying them unless you are boared/have spare cash. The 410grn loads regulate perfectly in my old rifle at 75m
 
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Nosler has announced that they will load the 500/416 in their new safari line of ammo.
 
Posts: 795 | Location: Vero Beach, Florida | Registered: 03 July 2004Reply With Quote
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Interesting to hear about the differences in penetration. Should be easy to calculate as a funcion of velocity and sectional density. I have seen people argue (with evidence shooting wet paper catalogues using different..not standardized..bullets ..solids..softs...etc), concluding that higher velocity decreases penetration. To me that is pretty bad reaching to "prove" that the old 45/70 is best etc.

The debate about increased rearward energy (risk of breaking lugs etc) was settled here on the norwegian forum. I mailed DEVA and they replied the rearward directed energy is not increased as a consequence of bottleneck design as long as chamber pressure etc was held constant in the comparison. That is basic physics and not very surprising.

The discussion then changed to if the increased pressure in the barrel (rocket analogy) would cause an opposite problem for the locking lugs...ie that the logs have to hold the barrel from moving forward. Well lots of theory but all in all pretty unconvincing to me....

Have shot my 500/416 a lot now and the only thing i have to watch out for is getting my right thum in the nose if leaning too much into the gun. Therefore adding a new pad (1 inch). Recoil is not bad at all. Also adding an aimpoint micro with 2 moa dot, should be fine up to 200 yard shots with that. Accuracy is phenomenal. Positioned sitting on my backpack i can group a shot from each barrel within less than an inch at 50 yards (open sights) with regularity. I don't shoot better with a bolt...
 
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I would be interested to see what Rob had to say about penetration, especially where his 600 OK is concerned.

I'm very familiar with both Michael's tests and the outstanding penetration of the 600 OK in all mediums using various bullet designs; however, both Rob and Michael are the true experts on these matters, and I believe it would be best for them to answer such questions.

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As long as one is shooting identical bullet types penetration is a linear function of SD and MV. That is basic physics. Or?
 
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True.

When using same construction bullets:

If speed remains the same, increasing SD will result in less penetration with expanding bullets.

If SD remains the same, increasing speed will result in less penetration with expanding bullets.
 
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But with solids it is the other way around?

+speed and +sd = + penetration
 
Posts: 446 | Location: Norway | Registered: 11 November 2011Reply With Quote
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The 500-416 should be a great single shot cartridge.
Anyone know what the case max psi is?
Maybe in a custom #1 you could use it for PG and target as well with 416 Barrett bullets seated out long.


Boom Stick, I have a custom #1 in 500-416. It's an absolutely brilliant cartridge in a falling block single shot. Haven't hunted it yet, but I love it at the range and I'm looking forward to taking it out for boar, bear, and buffalo.


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