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I exchanged emails with Dave Corbin about sizing down 300 grain 44 Mag (.429) to .423 for some plinking loads for the 404 Jeffery. He didn't see any reason why it couldn't be done. Any one here already done this? If so, what brand of bullets do you use? Recipe? Or perhaps your own plinking loads for the 404 Jeffery? Your input is greatly appreciated. Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | ||
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I'm sure you could size them down, but I am looking at the Hawk bullets in .423" as I have been very happy with them in my .360 bpe double rifle. They make a 300 grain offering for the .404 | |||
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skb, Thanks, I just put in an order for 2 boxes. Still looking for an economical way to get some 300 grain bullets. Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Rusty: Have Dave ( a very nice fellow) or his brother Richard Corbin (google RCE) make you a .423 draw die and you should be in business. Drawing .429 bullets down to .423 would be a snap. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Thanks Bill, I intend to do just that. Any brand of bullets to recommend? Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Rusty, I have swedged down hundreds of .429 bullets to .423 for shooting in my 10.75 Mauser. .44mag pistol bullets and half jacketed cast bullets. Dave at C&H made the die for me and it works like a charm using my Rock Chucker. I have been going to the range every Saturday morning preparing for my trip to Moz. I'll shoot a doz of the swedged bullets and 5 or 6 full loads off hand, sitting, sticks, etc. I have found H4895 to be a good choice for full and practice loads. If the 400gr AFrames at 2150fps bounce off buff, I'll have the rifle rechambered to .404  Bob | |||
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Bob, Which bullet (brands) do you draw down? Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Rusty, The cast half jacket bullets were made by a friend in VT, a fellow 10.75 shooter. I also swedge .429 Speers. I will check the part number this evening and get back to you. Bob | |||
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Guys: Not trying to be a butthead, but you swage up (use pressure to increase diameter) and draw down (use pressure to decrease diameter). That said, I would think both Speers and Hornadys would be good candidates for drawing down to .423. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Bill, thanks for the correct terminology. I shall amend my post. Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Rusty, have you considered cast bullets? Several companies are now making cast for the 404. | |||
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Rusty, I have been shooting Bear Tooth Bullets in my 404. These bullets come with gas checks in place.They weight 380gr and I reload them to good accuracy with 60.0gr of Reloader 7 with a fiber tuft on top. BigBullet "Half the FUN of the travel is the esthetic of LOSTNESS" Ray Bradbury https://www.facebook.com/Natal...443607135825/?ref=hl | |||
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 I thought that 404 Jeff WAS a plinking load.  My plinkung load for my Lott is, 405 gr @ 2112 fps  Relaxinf to shoot.Keith IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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My order of Bear Tooth Bullets should be arriving this afternoon. 380 grain gas checked bullets. Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Rusty, Let me know how they shoot. If you want to try a sizing die, let me know and I'll send you mine for a test run. | |||
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what Keith said! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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 Resized 300 grain 44 bullets, that would be sweet at under 2,200 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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VFR1, Thanks for the offer. I've sent Dave Corbin bullets and a check for a draw die. Jeffe, I was just trying to work a load that wouldn't be too rough on that injured shoulder of yours!  Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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It seems the question has been answered with the drawing down of 429 to 423 for a plinking load but in mine I use a cast bullet of 350gn in either 90/10 ww/lino over 63gn H4350 for 1900 and excellent accuracy. Cast in lino over the same load it is even more accurate but in lino over 74gn Varget I get 2365 and it is at the top end for plinking. I HT the 90/10 bullet and over 87gn H4350 I was getting 2416. The cast bullet is from a Hoch mould to my design and is the GC and lubed one in this line-up.  Von Gruff. | |||
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Thanks, Von Gruff! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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