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boom stick, With tongue in cheek I played along. It was fun. I hoped everyone could enjoy a little fun as much as I did, eh? Unless some huge windfall comes my way, like winning a big lottery without ever buying a ticket for it ... Well, necking up the .338 Lapua Magnum is no joke, and anyone can do that. Info on this is available with the search function. No better cartridges can be imagined. So RIP Arms is DOA, as in Dead On Arrival. Get it? However, my rifles and handloads are Dead On Accurate mostly. I promise to let this Rest In Peace ... ... While waiting for investors in RIP/DOA to line up at the bank. I'll be getting the .423 Lapua made properly as a prototype for the rest of the line of semi-custom rifles that will beat the pants off Dakota Arms. And to thoroughly one-up Dakota, we'll also be offering the .470 Mbogo if Dave Estergaard will agree to it. If, for .475 caliber, we have to blow the Rigby/Lapua case out at the shoulder, we might as well go whole hog in alterations and make it full length like the .470 Mbogo. Hmmm ... RIP-Mbogo Arms, Inc. and DOA-Mbogo Ammo ... now that has a better ring to it. | ||
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What I like about the RIP line of cartridges and the nascent AR cartridges is that they are being developed in public with lots of feed back from the peanut gallery.. Thus, the data is available in the public domain. People who want something a little different can call up Dave Kiff, Dave Manson or Hugh Henricksen and say, "hey dude, can you send me a .423 RIP, a .375 Saeed, a .458 AR or even a 6.5 lawndart (yes there is such a cartridge)?" So; you have a reamer, a print, loads and information about the cartridge's idiosyncracies available. Either find the thread on AR, or shoot an e-mail or PM to whomever designed said cartridge. There are several talented gunsmiths available to turn your action, reamer, barrel, stock et al, into your dream boom stick. Life is good. Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm | |||
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Heh heh heh ... Further work on the RIP-Mbogo Arms, Inc. line of DOA-Mbogo Ammo goes on then: left to right, above and below (with a start on the RIP-Mbogo logo): .338 Lapua Magnum .375 Lapua .423 Lapua .458 Lapua (affectionately known as "45 Lapua") .470 Mbogo (until Dave says No) | |||
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LD, this reminds me of a story a PH told me. One of his trackers would not believe that a cartridge fires by a primer igniting powder, etc. The tracker insisted that the noise made by a firearm is made by the bullet. After going through the technical explanation a couple of times, the tracker still would not buy it. So the PH handed him a cartridge, a hammer and a nail and told the tracker to prove it to himself. The tracker did so, and received a very nasty cut on his hand from escaping gas when the case split. However, he is now a believer. | |||
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Yes he is, and his conversion went easier than Paul the Apostle's . | |||
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rip... dont make people be sorry that they believe in you or your ideas...i think you can do this whether you should is another thing. it still is a great idea if you chose to do it. dreams are what separate us from the monkeys. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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boom stick, I would enjoy nothing better than to endeavor to persevere in the RIP/DOA line. I hope I don't disappoint. It will be fun trying. | |||
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JC, doing it in public to have the whole team informed. and to make it darn clear that the AR rounds are going to come on out. on ordering a reamer.. yep, call dave manson and get one. It's a publicly available round, but NO CHANGES to the reamer are allowed and still be called an AR round.. just to keep all the chambers the same. Change it all you like, and call it something different... jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Sorry I forgot to mention that central fact. If people jump on one of these rounds they benefit from the detailed and thorough work up program. Any dimension changes and you are on your own. I for one have found to my sorrow why it can be a bad idea to indulge in the human tendency to, "just tweak" the design, "just a bit". The closer chambers are to design specs, the more valid any load information obtained will be. I just had Lois rap my knuckle for my error of omission. I was hoping for the leather suit and cat-o-nine-tails, but she said that she only goes through that much trouble for premeditated errors or commission. Mr. I've been a naughty boy, right mistress??? | |||
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The .375 Lapua looks like a real winner. Are you guys willing to do a project with this loading?? IF so, PM me and we should talk. Now would be a good time to do this as an associate of mine is going to a certain factory and ordering up a bunch of actions that will fit this loading. We could most likely buy some from him for this project. Reamers and dies would not be very tough to get done at all. JW | |||
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rip...follow up with this guy feff... 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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yeah Rip...Follow-up! Jeff | |||
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That 423 Lapua is dead sexy! (Done in my best Fat Bastard accent from Austin Powers) Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Jeff, I sent you a PM. It is serendipity that I stopped in to check on this thread at an internet cafe, whilst eating the house salad. Lately, weekend is the only time I have been checking on AR.com, but here I am now, loafing on a weeknight. | |||
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Fjold, I agree! The .375 and .423 Lapua Mag's are MUST HAVES! I hope Dakota does not stray too far from the plain and simple necking up of the .338 Lapua Magnum. Theirs will be known as the ".423 Dakota-Lapua." Mine will be simply the ".423 Lapua," on the rocks, or straight up, unadulteratedly intoxicating, eh? Keep It Simply Smart, new KISS principle, eh? There is a firm in Germany doing the .375 Lapua as the 9.5mm Tornado. It has some following already with some sweet Mauser rifles so chambered. I forsee a shipment of Prechtl Mauser 98 Magnum actions headed for RIP Arms, Inc. | |||
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does this mean you are back on or is the joke getting deeper... fool me once...shame on you fool me twice...shame on me i think i get a free rifle from rip arms out of this... 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Boom Stick, RIP is to this project what Jerry Garcia was to the Grateful Dead; the creative genius who sees and plays the possibilities. He gets an idea (actually many ideas) in his head, and then has the idea turned into steel and fiberglass; brass, powder, primer and monometal. He then tests the idea on the iron maiden, and reports what he finds. If any of his creations tickle your fancy, well, he'll gladly share the specs and tell you where to order the reamer from. Think of RIP as the ghost in the virtual machine. RIP generates code. The code is free. You take some code, add money, a reciever, stock, barrel and time and the code comes to life in your hands as a RIP firearm loaded with DOA ammunition. When RIP and I were little boys in the late fifties/early sixties he was always dreaming up new weapons while all I wanted to do way play "Japs and Jerries" with the battle kit that dad brought home from the military. He always wanted to build another caride canon while I was busy hunting gophers to chop in half with an entrenching tool. To answer your question more directly; RIP is the pathfinder and design meister. He won't sell you a production rifle, but will gladly show you how to have your own built. No concrete thinking in RIP's world. Hope this helps, Standing in the shadow, lawndart | |||
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RIP, It's jeff.wemmer@specopsbrand.com!!! JW | |||
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Bro'dart, Thanks for clarifying that for boomstick. May he RIP with RIP. | |||
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Hi Jeff, Message sent to your email too! | |||
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