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I continue to be intriguied by this cartridge but have some questions regarding its dimensions. - What bullet diameter was this case officially designed for? I've seen .410 and .411. - What bore/groove dimensions would perform best with this case? - I don't reload yet so this may sound dumb: Are there things to be aware of if you went with a .411 bullet in a .410 barrel and vice versa? Would a 405 Win. barrel (.412") provide acceptable accuracy? Thanks in advance for any insights. | ||
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I show it as .410 I seriously doubt you would ever see a difference in .410 and .411 A 411 might give a touch more pressure in a 410. Since the load would be worked up in that barrel no big deal. I have a douglas 400 barrel. I shoot both in it. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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No problems shooting .410's in a .411 barrel. I, and many others before they new what bore dimensions were shot .411's in all kinds of barrels, especially the .408 range. Woodleigh and Holland would be able to tell you the answers - H&H published the specs when they released it. | |||
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OK, it is decided, my fifth and final .395 wildcat will be the .395 H&H. I shall try to make it equally retro as the 400 H&H. A great aspect is the easy headstamp conversion of 375 to 395. So is the greater whomp guaranteed by Bore Law. If anyone wants the specs, surely boom stick will know ...  | |||
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well, facts being facts .. its a "wildcat" offered by a known name, that no other company has picked up as a standard caliber. its not available in africa. it does nothing that the 416 rem doesn't do (or even 404) in the same length action. it merely competes with the established, well known and available rounds already out there.  I guess when CZ and Howa start chambering for it, followed by winchester and remington and dakota, then perhaps ruger would consider it! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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you are right jeffe that caliber is about as useless as the 375 ruger  best peter | |||
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And the .395 Ruger already exists to serve bolt action shooters, also the 400/.395 Nitro Express 3-Inch Aboriginal (aka 10.03 x 75mm Rimmed) for single shot and double rifle retro-nostalgiacs ... But what the hey! Always room for another .395! | |||
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Just buy a .416 Rigby. It may be the finest big game cartridge of all time, brass and bullets are easy to get, and reloading is a snap! Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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If only the .416 Rigby shoulder had been 20 degrees (like the .338 Lapua Magnum perfection of that Rigby case) instead of the prone-to-problems 45 degrees, that would indeed be a perfect cartridge ... sort of like the 20-degree-shouldered .395/.416 Rigby! That one is called the .395 Tatanka: | |||
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Can't argue with that. A more gentle shoulder on the Rigby would indeed be a good idea. Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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NO NO NO!!! 395 Jeffery! Use 395 bullets and same shoulder angle and position! All of the bullet shank should be in the long neck.  577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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.395 bullets as opposed to .423 bullets? Seven percent less frontal diameter?  Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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Si Same bullet weight but higher SD (.366) and BC 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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What problems? I've used it off and on since 1972, if I ever had a problem with it I didn't know it. Reduced load don't work real well, but never tried 5744. | |||
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boomer, Good idea, and I will do it if Saeed makes available a .375/404 Jeffery headstamp, for me to alter to .395/404 Jeffery. African Hunter, Inferiority of the 45-degree shoulder is real. Why do you think P.O. Ackley stopped at 40 degrees? | |||
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Don't worry about headstamp... Just stamp a 0 over the 4 for a 400 Jeffery rimless Nitro Express. Heaven knows we need more 400 nomenclature confusion. Rip... Quick! snap this 400 Purdey up and make it the original 400NE with a second set of barrels! http://www.christies.com/LotFi...?intObjectID=2009566 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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FWIW I shoot the 405 bullets in my 400 H&H all day long, as well as Woodleighs. There is absolutely no reason outside of the management circle of H&H for the existence of this round. But then, that could be said about a lot of others. It's as good as any other 40 cal but not any better. The one serious drawback is ammo availablity and price. If you don't roll your own you'll pay through the nose to shoot it. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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good to see you, harry! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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boomer, Another smashing idea!  The .400 Tembo should have done as you said: 400 Jeffery I have toyed with just "X"-ing out the terminal "4" and calling it the "40 Jeffery" with .395-caliber barrel and bullet. AKA "Forty Ex-Jeffery." .395 rounds to .40  | |||
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The 400 Tembo has a shorter neck than the 404J...I had my Tembo rebored and rechambered to 404 Jeffery. Good hunting, Andy ----------------------------- Thomas Jefferson: “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” | |||
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10-4 bubba! "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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