ruger m77mkII, yet ANOTHER honorable end of a 7 remmag, dual xbolts, wrist pin, barrel block.

heh, I did NOT let him shoot it the first time with the stock sling stud on the forearm!

He can tell you all the detals!

Very nice indeed. I am still contemplating the .470AR and just need to finish up my new Lott and the 505 which I am working on.

Thanks for your continuing updates Jeffe.
Frank

Nice Jeff

just to be clear
HuntingCat did the metal work, and I did the stock, bedding, bluing, etc...

Frank
Might think about the 470 OR the 500 Ar... Man, these things just work

jeffe

Glad to see the population of 7 Rem Mags diminished by one more

He'll love it!

Jamison still going to do us some brass? I'd hate to have the usefulness of mine limited by no headstamped brass.

I need to do something with my Ruger 7 mag but I'm holding out to see what Ruger does with necking up the 375 Ruger.

The other issue is, is that mine is stainless with the laminate stock and that just seems so un-DGR like.

good work...

Jeffe is a first class act. I got to shoot it at the local range while I was there. Its going to be plenty of gun for me for a while. It turned out just how I wanted a no nonsense working rifle that will see some hard use. Thanks to jeffe, tom and this site for all the future fun I will have with my new big bore.

P.S. Boomie, I got to handle your barreled action, its looking good very soon you will have a black and blue shoulder like I do right now.

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The other issue is, is that mine is stainless with the laminate stock and that just seems so un-DGR like.

Then swap it or sell it and get a CM/walnut version.

Keith

Hog Killer,
I have my drop box bottom metal on it's way from Jim Wisner, thanks to your advice. Got the last one he had (at a close out price) for a Santa Barbara Mauser. I picked up my stock blank at the Hawkeye Gun show in Cedar Rapids Iowa last Sunday, just tickled. Got a nice piece of black walnut with fairly straight grain and a little bit of figure to it. Best bargain so far for my first DGR. The blank cost me all of $25.00. Sights and bbl. band swivel is on the next shopping trip. Hopefully this time next year I will be testing my first BIG BORE. Thanks for the help with the drop box.

i loaded up some 500gr hornadys with 75gr of i-4895 **use at your own risk*** for about 2100-2150ish FPS... a reasonable load, for breaking in a big bog... with the ruger truckbumber er, recoil pad, things weren't too bad.. i bet if we didn't have to sit at the bench it might have been a tad easier.

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Jeffeosso,
I had set up a stand up bench for shooting the heavier stuff about twelve years ago. A friend memtioned it in passing and I took him serious. It does take away a bunch of the sting.

OC,
nominally, I shoot standing... or knealing, and offhand.. however, the "dirt range" doesn't "allow" that, and the range that does was 45 mins each way, our time limited... I offered, but the time wasn't on our side.

standing the rifle will be a joy...

oh, yeah, stand by for pics of the pair i am building for neal and I

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The other issue is, is that mine is stainless with the laminate stock and that just seems so un-DGR like.

Fjold - mine will be a butt ugly utilitarian version, stainless in a flat black synthetic stock - of course, the stainless will receive a coating of gunkote or maybe just krylon flat black with some brown / grey thrown in (budget project).

For those that already have a 458AR on a ruger m77II, do you get 3 down with the RUM brass ?

I like the rear peep on this rifle, is that the NECG that fits the ruger scope rings slots ?

Thanks

KMule

Ol'crip, I guess you are just one LUCKY fella.

To get the last in stock drop box and at a reduced price.

Keith

Jeffeoso, Got a serious question. My gunsmith says he can bed my Ruger 77 MKII so that the wristpin and crossbolts aren't needed. I'm asking for a second opinion. Mine will be a .395 Ruger Max with an extra bbl in .458 win.
Max

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Originally posted by KMuleinAK:

For those that already have a 458AR on a ruger m77II, do you get 3 down with the RUM brass ?

I like the rear peep on this rifle, is that the NECG that fits the ruger scope rings slots ?

Thanks

KMule

You can shove three in there but it wont feed. Jeffe can tell you about working that out. From what I understand you just need to cut windows in the mag box to give it a little more clearance?

Yes, NECG. My rifle could just as easily be used as a club than as a rifle, I love it!! Beauty (brutish functionality) is in the eye of the beholder.

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Beauty (brutish functionality)

what a great definition of the art and intrinsic alure of a weapon...
A weapons beauty is in its brutish functionality.

prof,.
it takes less than 2 hours (total) of gunsmithing working time to install. safety is the issue...

Peyton, to be honest, that's an AB barrel cleaned up, and they are what they are... but i've seen thicker barrels on 458s before... "club" is a pretty harsh term though... hell for stout would be how I would describe the barrel.. with the ruger NARROW bumper!

to feed 3, it's a windowed box (same theory are remmie used).. I am cutting one for peyton

jeffe

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Originally posted by ptaylor:
Here is another great excuse to post some pics. This elk ran about.......4 steps; bullet velocity about 1700, would I hunt africa with my marlin...NO, because i've got a 458ar now.

quoted here so to not hijack a different thread

All business no BS that is a nice looking rifle.

What is the .458 AR case based on and what will it comfortably do with a 500 gr bullet?

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Originally posted by surestrike:
All business no BS that is a nice looking rifle.

What is the .458 AR case based on and what will it comfortably do with a 500 gr bullet?

el jeffe says 500 @ 2350 so 2300 should be a picnic for it.

the case is a rum case and it has a bit more capacity than the lott.

based off the RUM cases, and 500gr hornadys will go 2400, but i bet thats pretty hot, in terms of pressure. 2300 is easy to find

Nice,

Hmmmm....

I've got this M-97 Dakota in .300 Win Mag...


What rear sight did you guys go with?

peyton wound up with a necg rear peep!

I have a question about this thread. I tried to print Jeffeosso's reply about the 458AR with pics of the cartridge, noway could I increase the size of the font. It came across as about a 4 or 5 font size. Almost impossable to read. Am I doing something wrong to get this on this thread or am I stuck with it. I'm building a 458 Lott and the 458 AR intreaged me. I wanted to study the drawings and maybe switch to the 458 AR. I shoot a 7mm, 300, 338 and 375 RUM. This seemed a natural way to follow.

OC, for the 458 ar
OAL 3.35
base to mouth - 2.55
base to top of shoulder 2.185
base to bottom of shoulder 2.152
shoulder diameter .540
NOMINAL base diameter .550
neck diameter .488
.8 throat and freebore

jeffe

Very nice! How much does the rifle weigh?

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
Very nice! How much does the rifle weigh?

I'm just in the process of gathering my peices. I don't have the foggiest what she'll weigh when finished. Need a few more oeices and then I'll start some sort of work on it. I will send my blank away to John Kokulos like Jeffeosso recommended. I will do most of the metal work myself. Just taking my sweet time on this one.

Jeffeosso,
I figured it out and got it full size font. I copied and pasted to an email to myself. It came out full size when printed. Thanks for the demensions.

The only concern I would have about the 458 AR would be to buy ammunition out of country in the case of loosing my own loads.

Other wise I'd ream this Douglas bbl. to 458 AR.

Another nice one, Jeff and Tom. I'm still hunting a cheap Ruger to do a 416 AR. Man, they sure have gone up in the last year. I think you all are making a dent in the supply!

(catching up to any questions I might have missed)

First,
Thanks Harry - Tom does GREAT work and its easy to blast, bed, bolt, and blue afterwards!

Mike
Jamison is tied up in gummit contracts.. wish I could just buy a truckload of unstamped rum basic, at .550 base

Whitworth
the rifle is about 9, perhaps .25 either way. AB barrels are heavy, but shoot well and are cheap.. it puts the weight foreward. I broke my scale and need to get another one

OC,
10 years ago, lott ammo was unknown "over there", just like 375 ruger ammo today. I don't have an answer for loosing ammo. I have a buddy that PH's with a 577 NE... and says there's not 10 pieces of 577 NE for sale from cape town to cairo

I will post some pics of the paitr I am making for neal and I later today, maybe