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  rip sent me the prototype of the 458 boom stick....thanks rip! thought i'd throw in the pic of the 45-70 for perspective... 458 tembo long nose 458 tembo short nose 458 boom stick, 45-70 basicly 375 h+h action, 300 win mag action, 338 win mag action 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | ||
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   some more pics... basicly with a 500 gr bullet i am guessing except for the long nose tembo l.n. tembo 2500 fps w/500 gr s.n. tembo 2425 fps w/500 gr boom stick 2350 fps w/500 gr 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Classy... -Spencer | |||
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boom stick, Excellent promotional material for your namesake cartridge.  That is why you are Technical Advisor and Vice President for Marketing (TA!/VPM) at HA!/DOA. You must stay on your toes, however. Watch out for disinformation such as Jeffe's below:
In fact the Winchester M-70 has been produced by the Winchester Custom Shop in .416 Rigby. No feeding problem. The problem was that they lengthened the action to .416 Rigby length. The .458 Boom Stick is short enough to do in any fallow 7mm RemMag to .458 WinMag sized action of satisfactory quality/metallurgy: Standard Mauser 98 Winchester M70 Ruger M77 Mk II Jeffe should stick that in his pipe and smoke it. I think he is just jealous of your cartridge because it is bigger than his and has NO REBATE!!!  | |||
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sorry i dont have a REAL smoking jacket...i dont have a monocular or an ascot...i am more a basic meat and potatoes jeans and t shirt kinda guy...if i come accross one i'll pick one up and redo the photo shoot  577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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the a.r. carts and rips rounds have two diff. audiences... lets get along and not be deuling banjoes...but hey that song is better with two banjoes... 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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a big question is will the s.n. tembo or boom stick work in a blr??? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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boom stick I don't know about this. You are wearing a Crimson Velvet Robe, have candles in the fireplace and a lever action on the mantle. Doesn't remind me of Africa, San Francisco maybe.  | |||
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You don't need a repeater 45-70 for elephants , one shot is enough , use a 1885 ! Certainly those billiard balls are made from the tusks of elephants you shot with the 45-70.I haven't been to Africa, is the crimson robe worn during or just after the hunt ??....part of the 45-70 band ! | |||
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the jacket(bath robe) is actualy an inside joke for gixxer...i had to borrow it see post gixxer quote: "WOW! Boomer's eating up these Lapua and RUM cats up more than me!! You know, theres nothing better than sitting around the fireplace in your smoking jacket, sipping on brandy, playing with your wildcat dummy rounds!! Some 470 Lapua (dont remember the exact name, sorry)and RUM cat dummies would be nice. I could put em under my pillow and maybe the custom rifle fairy would replace the dummy with a custom rifle on a GMA action!! Sorry for the smartass comments. These things happen when you are window shopping without any cash... " so it is a joke and no i dont have a smoking jacket but i do smoke fine cigars once or twice a week and i preffer a good bourbon or scotch! the marlin in the background is a jab at certain people too...i love the irrational responses the 45-70 and lever actions provide...it is like a squeek toy to a dog.  have fun cuz some day you wont be able to! boom stick (bourbon)577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I have had a PM about the .458 Tembo Long Nose being in effect a "short neck." Wrong! The .458 Lapua Tembo has the adequate long neck that grips the bullet fully and the same whether it has the bullet base down in the powder space (like the .458 Tembo Short Nose, .450 Dakota, .450 Rigby, .460 Weatherby, .458 Lott, .458 Win mag, .458 Boom Stick), or whether the bullet base is up at the shoulder/neck juncture, as with the Long Nose seating in the Tembo: best. That said, I think the .458 Boom Stick with its .500 Jeffery style neck is just fine with a good crimp and a 100% or slightly compressed load of extruded powder like RL-15 or Varget Extreme. That bullet will stay put in the magazine battering. I think the .458 Boom Stick is a great addition to the HA!/DOA Line, and I thank our TA!/VPM for suggesting it. With proper box, boltface, and feed job: Standard Mauser 98 Ruger Mark II M77 Winchester M70 As for the BLR ...  | |||
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Jeffe, Harry Selby's .416 Rigby was on a standard length M98 Mauser. The only weakness there is that they opened it up so long, though it fed perfectly. The .458 Boom Stick is .30-06 length. Forget the M70 Winchester if it troubles you that much. It doesn't trouble me a bit. | |||
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 i think this might be in my future... http://www.armalite.com/sales/catalog/rifles/ar30.htm 5 round single stack....rebarrel and voila! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Boomer, If you hunt Africa with something like that, you will definitely need to wear the burgundy bathrobe into the bush, maybe with some bright green gaiters as accent. | |||
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 Jeffe, Did you delete the post I quoted as your disinformation, after you butted in first with the negativism? It is gone now, save in the quotes I caught? Been taking lessons from Ray? | |||
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If this were the case, it would require that nobody could learn from your wisdom, abandon their own prior positions, and improve (?) themselves!  [DISCLAIMER: use of the troll is not intended to label anybody as a troll.]Dan | |||
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Jeffe, Caught you with your pants down on that one Jeffe. Delete away, just don't call attention to the statements in the posts you are deleting. It would be best if you just avoid a  contest. I would prefer to. | |||
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Jeffe, It sounds like you are implying that I am emailing messages about you or something. That would be a lie on your part, if so. I really don't like the PM or private email side of this and never do it if I can help it. I prefer to keep everything out in the open, and honest. It is kind of hard to get the Winchester Custom Shop to answer the phone on a Sunday night. You set out to ruin boom sticks thread from the start. AMFYOYO PS: Still deleting? | |||
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boomstick, didn't mean to hijack your thread. screw it.. tired of pig wrestling/pissin contests.. deleted my own posts, opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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no issues here... we have to remember this is 90% for fun! thus the "smoking jacket" 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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to keep things on track....would this not be kick a$$!!! anything in the lapua brass 375 ect... dual front locking bolt, single stack, 5 round detach mag! yeahaw! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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BS, if you loose the muzzle brake, put some drop in the stock, add a peep sight and run it with a lever!!! in all seriousness, I would have to question taking a magizine rifle, but it's been done.. and in a 338 lapua, i bet it's a great "cross the canyon" shooter opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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the muzzle is an add on and dont come with unless you order it...it needs a 22" 458 barrel anyway. i just love the single stack 5 round clip 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Boomstick, am I missing something, or is the .458 boomstick identical to a .458 tembo but with a shortened neck? Dan | |||
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exacto... 2.5" case just expand to 458 in 3 steps and trim to 2.5" this is for shorter actions...the short nose tembo will work in a 300 win mag or 7rem mag. the long nose is for 375 h+h length or 416 rigby length actions...its a pick your poison thing or compress your powder thing. i am sure you could do 2400 fps in a boom stick if you want to. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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DanEP, Thanks for calling it as you see it. You are correct twice on this thread so far. This baby is boom stick's suggestion. As a marketing ploy for our Cyber-company (HA!/DOA, he owns 1%, I own 99%, of nothing), he suggested a shortened cartridge to fit a standard length (.30-06) action. I showed him a dummy .458 Tembo loaded with a 350 grain bullet, via photo posting here. His comeback was that it was similar in appearance to a scaled down .500 Jeffery.  Next I trimmed the neck of the .458 Tembo down to about 2/3 of bullet caliber length, like the .500 Jeffery. A star was born and christened the ".458 Boom Stick." This is no BS. However if he thinks I am going to rebarrel my AR-30 to .458 BoomStick, he better think again. Now I will let the TA!/VPM of HA!/DOA take over PR, after a few corrections on the technical details: Two passes only to neck up the .338 Lapua to .458: .338 to .375 .375 to .458 using two (".30 to .375" and ".375 to .458") RCBS tapered neck expander dies. The Lapua brass is nicely annealed from the factory, and I have not lost a single one yet. Trim to 2.510" or 2.500" or 2.490" if you want. .458 Boom Stick: .30-06 length. .458 Tembo Short Nose: .375 H&H length .458 Tembo Long Nose: .416 Rigby length. | |||
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rip...the 458 tembo case is 2.666 the 300 win mag is 2.620  you could trim .046 off and stuff a 300 win mag action. whilst you could stick the tembo trunk out to whatever the 375 h+h or 416 rigby action will allow. is this not so? i am but a grasshopper still notice the .264" neck rip...is the bullet of the tembo the trunk or the tusk? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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boom stick, I have revised the brass length of the .458 Tembo to 2.700" max, trim to 2.690". My old brass was 2.666" but that will now be trimmed to .458 BS. The .458 bullets have longer "trunks" than the .308 bullets seated in the .300 winchester. The .458 Tembo Short Trunk is really like a .404 Jeffery in length, about 3.5", that needs to go in a .375 H&H length action. Good idea revised nomenclature: .458 Boom Stick .458 Tembo Short Trunk/Tusk .458 Tembo Long Trunk/Tusk .458 BS .458 TST .458 TLT Tusk! | |||
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i would be more afraid of a tusk than a trunk...sooooo i'd go with 458 tembo long and short tusk. one is a mature bull the other an adolescent 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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i sooooooo would love to have a switch barrel system on this rifle!!! what would it take? moneywise and smithing? 1000 meter practice with 338 lapua and putting holes on 1" plates with the tembo  577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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