I think he thought one was bad enough and didn't want any more around.

Chuck

I get my cast RCBS 350 grain FN GC bullets (#416-350-FN) from:
Western Bullet Company
904 Kensington Ave
Missoula, MT 59801
(406) 728-4801
Well made, great price.
JCN

If you want a rifle the size and weight of a 375 H&H with the power of a 458 Win in close and an '06 trajectory on the plains, the 416 Rem is the ticket. If you want a bigger rifle with a true mag length action, the Rigby will do the same thing with more powder. If you want more power from the Rigby, it is there for the handloader, but one is better off with a 416 Weatherby in that case, and loading it down to Rigby levels when useful.

The alleged pressure problems with the Rem are easily cured by using AA 4350 with the 400 grain bullets. These make 2450 fps at 43,900 CUP, well below the SAAMI spec of 54,000 CUP.

So the conclusion to drawn here, after all these comments, is that .416 Rem. Mag. is vastly superior to all of its competitors.

AC - I wish it was that cut and dried. If so, we would all be shooting Howitzers. The size of the hole is only one of several factors. Many folks around here get fixated on the size of the hole, the type of bullet, 100 fps +/-, and a whole bunch of undescribable voodoo. Most of these folks have spent little time in the field.

At the end of the day it comes down to plumbing & electricity...

Bill, Bill, Bill - You missed the point all together. It�s all about the size of the hole. The bigger the hole, the quicker they die.

I don't know why you guys are so fixated on small bore cartridges like the .416.

ZD,

I thought you were the guy that lamented all this BS about +/- 100 fps, whether 10 grains of powder really meant a sh*t as far as recoil, that a 350 gr. bullet at 2700 fps can kill deer, and that relinquishing magazine capacity doesn't matter?

Tweak, tweak.

Poor deer!



Here is my .416 Dakota

Will,
The accepted conclusion is that the .416 Dakota is vastly superior to all its competitors, the 416 Rigby is a close second, and the .416 Remington is a less-close third.

Popularity with the masses (but what do they know?)is just the reverse in ranking.

1. .416 Remington
2. .416 Rigby
3. .416 Dakota, if we limit ourselves only to the three "best" 416's.

But the .416's Taylor, Hoffman, and Barnes Supreme ain't bad atall.

Zero Drift,
Just wouldn't let me quit, eh?
The Rigby can easily handle a 350 grainer at 2700 fps (or faster if you want it shooting flatter), and make hits pretty easy at 350 yards. I used just such a load on a fallow deer at 342 yards, laser ranged before the shot, and just held on the top of the back for point of aim (350 grain Barnes XFB Cannelured). I shot caribou out to 350 yards with a 340 Weatherby too, but that is about my limit. I do not advocate stunt shooting.

Surely the 416 dakota will move a 350 grainer along at 2700 fps at higher pressure and less recoil, so in the recoil department it might be better.

To my current thinking, a Dakota 76 in .416 Dakota might be the best all around hunting rifle in the world. And you have one, eh? I am green with envy.

1: Pressure.
2: Length.
3: Practical difference on game; none.

Dave

Rip - 350 grain bullets at 350 yards



Long range bear hunting with a howitzer???

Hey RIP,
Premier Reticles has the Mildot thing down for Leupolds. They put them in the first focal plane. Also, they have the best price on Leupolds that I have found. They do reticle conversions for the Leupold factory so their work does not void the Leupold warranty.
I have a VXIII LR 30mm 3.5x10 with the mildot conversion. Impressive.
JCN

Zero Drift,
Aye, I have the Dakota cartridge plaque with all their dummies (404 too), and by golly I have 6mmPPC live ammo for a Cooper, so your post evades my question. I guess you are saying it is an optical illusion and you did not switch the 450 Dakota and 416 Dakota cartridges in the photo. That still appears to be an awfully skinny 450 Dakota cartridge in the rifle photo. My eyes are playing tricks on me, eh?