But Jeff's "statement" was a fact, not an oppinion as in the other "Google" statements.

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Originally posted by ScottS:
You put a 0.308 shot through the upper chambers of any of their hearts and they will die relatively quickly. This is a matter of fact. Of course your margin of error with a 308, 338, and such is virtually zero.

and you are a poacher if you use those calibers. great advice.

what was your 405 400gr at 2400fps load, again,,,

i killed a google in full charge...

the horns measured 50"

thems tuff animals...

i used my Magic garrett hammerheads

good thing they were not going over 1500 fps

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Originally posted by boom stick:
i killed a google in full charge...

the horns measured 50"

thems tuff animals...

i used my Magic garrett hammerheads

good thing they were not going over 1500 fps

tyler...

them buffs are sacred cows...

there are a.r. taboo topics...

crf vs pushfeed
cape buff and 45-70 or any other cart or cal sub 375
rebates and belts
and the new one twist...

stay away from these and you will be fine

tyler...killing buffs is more about style than function. if you dont kill one with an original 404 jeffery or 577 nitro peoples panties get twisted. i would love to kill a (censored) with my (censored) but i might have to keep it to myself here

I don't like to comment on topics I don't know about, but sometimes the oppurntunites are too tempting to pass up.
I would love to kill a buffalo with my 45-70, sice it was effective enough with blackpowder loads to kill millions of them. NOT Cape Buff though, although I want to do that someda too. Just not with a 45-70.

just do a search on 45-70 and (censored) and see what can happen...its not pretty. you will see a lot of my posts there.

Jeff,

As usually you post libel and drivel! The fact is you have NO FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE and neither, I'd wager, do the majority of the so-called experts BSing on this thread.

You can believe whatever fairy tale you like. It is immediately obvious you are a sucker for marketing ploys.

I also NEVER said Dan was a poacher, nor did I say he ever used a Kalashnikov. The local AFRICAN POACHERS use Kalashnikovs.

Have a nice day.

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Originally posted by ScottS:


I also NEVER said Dan was a poacher, nor did I say he ever used a Kalashnikov.

At least a poacher actually goes hunting.

Dan,

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At least a poacher actually goes hunting.

Excellent point!!!

I think a better point would be that if all you can afford is a handi rifle, you probably can't afford a buffalo hunt, cape or other.

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Originally posted by ScottS:
The big one are much older and much heavier with bones that are very hard(as is true with all buffalo species).

I didn't think that Cape Buffalo and the American Bison were the same species?

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Originally posted by ElCaballero:

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Originally posted by ScottS:
The big one are much older and much heavier with bones that are very hard(as is true with all buffalo species).

I didn't think that Cape Buffalo and the American Bison were the same species?

You're correct ElCaballero. The correct term for North American "Buffalo" is Bison. And no they're not hard to kill.

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Originally posted by vapodog:
The best use of a Handi Rifle is in 223 for prairie dogs.....darn things shoot great!

I have personally been around 3 of these one I owned and one had two barrels. I don't think I could hit a barn with them unless I was sanding inside of it.

The one I owned you had to "extract" every other empty with a cleaning rod from the muzzle.

366torque

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The correct term for North American "Buffalo" is Bison. And no they're not hard to kill.

Cape buffalo aren't hard to kill either! I strongly suspect that you haven't shot either a bison or a cape buffalo.

Ignorance is both your and jeff's greatest ally.

Brain1,
I strongly recommend that you read the ENTIRE thread carefully, particularly my posts. If you do you will understand my reason for posting this thread. I do not own a 500 S&W Handi-rifle NOR do I require one as I already have far more appropriate rifles at my disposal for dispatching bison/buffalo.

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Originally posted by ScottS
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I did not realize that a bison was smaller than other buffalo. How much bigger is a cape buffalo than a bison. I realize that bison are "push overs" not even as tough as plains game, but how much tougher is the buffalo?

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Cape buffalo aren't hard to kill either! I strongly suspect that you haven't shot either a bison or a cape buffalo.

Ignorance is both your and jeff's greatest ally.

No Scott...Apparently ignorance is bliss!

You ask how tough a cape buffalo is AND claim that cape buffalo aren't hard to kill IN THE SAME THREAD!

JMJ888,

I get rather disgusted at all of you "arm chair" experts so I frequently play devil's advocate to your lack of experience and ask you all to explain to "stupid" me your point. You may have noticed that this particular "arm chair" expert never replied. I guess he is sharper than your are, meaning he decided not to expose his gross ignorance.

Now PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK to me any longer!

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Originally posted by ScottS:
366torque

quote:

The correct term for North American "Buffalo" is Bison. And no they're not hard to kill.

Cape buffalo aren't hard to kill either! I strongly suspect that you haven't shot either a bison or a cape buffalo.

Ignorance is both your and jeff's greatest ally.

Brain1,
I strongly recommend that you read the ENTIRE thread carefully, particularly my posts. If you do you will understand my reason for posting this thread. I do not own a 500 S&W Handi-rifle NOR do I require one as I already have far more appropriate rifles at my disposal for dispatching bison/buffalo.

You're a troll nothing more. You live through Google. You've been ousted before and your aliases as well Judy ( heh a womans name?) Axel, Tod etc. You're a little maggot. You've nothing else to report but somebody else's work e.g. the 500 AHR. I typed "troll" in find and you kept popping up repeatedly!
So how's the 4 bore coming along, troll?

366torque,

Your post has done nothing but validate the FACT you lack experience in the subject manner of this forum and I suspect any other dealing with big bores or buffalo hunting!

Please desist from the libel and STOP speaking to me on this or anyother forum!!!

You are a MAJOR POSIER!!!

ScottS is it true that you only have sex (probably with yourelf) in the standing position? It's because all you know how to do is screw up!!

King of the Handi Rifle buffalo killers. Hey, I got an idea for you buy two, duct tape them together and then you can tell people you own a double rifle. That would give you more excitement in your otherwise sucky life than the last time you put your shorts on backwards and thought you'd had a sex change operation on your lunchbreak instead of a pastrami on rye with hot mustard.

You are such a pathetic little turd of a man, how do you look in the mirror and continue to justify your miserable existence?

There is a saying that no matter how bad off you feel, try to smile and realize that somewhere down the line someone else has it worse than you do. How does it feel to be that last guy in the line?

I hope someday things can get to the nearly mediocre level for you.

Rich

Idaho,

I own a double rifle, do you? No, just as I thought. You also do not own a 0.500 ANYTHING do you? Your 500 Rigby wannabe hoax was immediately exposed as were you! Now go away.

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You are such a pathetic little turd of a man, how do you look in the mirror and continue to justify your miserable existence?

There is a saying that no matter how bad off you feel, try to smile and realize that somewhere down the line someone else has it worse than you do. How does it feel to be that last guy in the line?

I hope someday things can get to the nearly mediocre level for you.

Typical methodology of a man who hates himself! Your quoted comments are your statements about how you feel about yourself! I truly feel pity for you.

POSIER!! PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK to me!

Waaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!
Troll alert!!!
inept spelling attack.

Stick to english doodle bug...the term is POSEUR. It's french...but is it who you are.

Man, you are upgrading fast in that virtual reality you reside in. The man who hoped to someday own a handi-rifle in 500S&W now has a double rifle. Think fast, what caliber do you fantasize, oops own? What brand? You crack me up sometimes dude-ling.



Rich

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Originally posted by Pegleg:
I thought it was a "no-no" to shorten a rifle barrel shorter than 18 inches. ????

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ScottS
one of us
pegleg,

16" is the Federal mandated minimum.

Pegleg
ScottS is partly right! If the rifle is made on a rifle action, then the 16" barrel is the legal minimum!

If, however, the rifle is built on a pistol, or shotgun action, then the legal minimum is 18"+ 26" over all!

The rifle pictured above will be a dicey sittuation, if push comes to shove with a hard headed ATF agent! The action on Handi rifles, is basicly a shotgun action, and could cost you some money for an Lawyer to prove you are right, and nobody can predict what a jury will decide, you may loose! If you make one of these things, play it safe and leave 18" of barrel, then there is no problem!

Fellows, you've been WARNED, and two more inches of barrel is better in more ways than one!

This would make a fine sling arm, with an 18"(read post above) barrel, for following dogs on bear,or lion in North America, and there is no need to use anything but the factory pistol ammo for that purpose. I used to have a double rifle with 18" barrels chambered for .41 Rem Mag for just that purpose! It was handy, light to pack, and had pleanty power for black bear, or lion in a tree! I wish I still had it. However, it wouldn't be a rifle for even Big brown bear, and certainly not for Cape Buffalo, and neither is the rifle pictured in this string!