I have a tang safety Ruger in 7 mag. It has been for sale with no serious lookers, yet. It has a walnut stock and seems to be in good condition. If I'm going to refinsh it I may rebarrel it to a bigger caliber. I have the urge to build something just not sure what. Anybody have any suggestions on a suitable caliber. Not interested in anything I have to craft brass for so keep that in mind.

.416 Taylor; .416 RemMag; .458 WinMag; .458 AR; .470AR.

George

Did you mean 416 Ruger?

458 ar, 416 ruger, 470 ar

I had one, it is now a .308Norma and I really like.

I think the .458AR would be cool...

I'm leaning to a 416 Ruger, no good reason, just bored and thinking out loud.

the 416 ruger is awesome .. until it came out, i would have said 416 ar .. but the ruger, though an RCH smaller, is a facotry round

I had the same problem, what to do with a tang-safety 7 Mag I had kicking around. I re-barreled it to 375-338. 375 bullet in the 338 Win Mag case. 20 inch barrel with open sights and really lightweight; it will be this years Elk rifle.

500 AH, 500 Jeffery, 500 AHR, or any of the RUM based 50 cals....

Foobar, the tang safety has a "remington" boltface .. rum is the biggest case, which really means .,500 bullets ..

HEH HEH! Capoward and I have been kicking a 2.65 inch .500 around. He was good enough to send some basic Ruger 416 Brass! Looks pretty good so far, I have some .500 caliber 510 gr Solids stuck in 3 of them, little ghost of a shoulder left, much like the bigger RUM based 500 MDM. I forget the exact length of the case, but basic brass around 2.6 something. I have been so busy this week I really have not had much time to work with this.

Michael

If the barrel is a good shooter, why not rechamber it to 7mmDakota? If you want a big bore, then 416Taylor would work very well. A buddy of mine had one made for elk in the timber, nice shooter.

Any 416 that will work thru the action....

FOOBAR,

The 500AHR is too long to fit into a Ruger M77. Also what Jeffe said.

458 Win mag, 416 Ruger, 375 Ruger, 416 Taylor or 375-338 would be my suggestions.

I never said it would be easy or that you didn't have to do some tweaking...this is WILDCATING at it's finest...

I have a Jeffery case in my hand with a 525gr cast lead bullet that will fit my Tang Model Ruger, 30-06 bolt face(when I get after it with a grinder) at 3.33" COAL...but it is a bit on the fat side for this action without some rail work...I won't say anything about the case capacity in respect to RIP's fragile feelings.

You might have to trim the 500 AHR a scosh and seat a little deaper.

There have always been work arounds for bolt faces and case rims and it's still going on today, reference Ed's 585 He and Robs 600 OK and some of my unposted work with 45-90 mods for my SMLE 458 WM.

Lothar Walther lists a #724 12.5x70 Schuler barrel for a military sporting contour...that's pretty close to Jeffery size and the Tang Model Ruger is pretty close to a VZ-24 Md 98 I'm guessing.

Doesn't really matter to me, one way or another, I do MY thing and while I do appreciate input, I don't necessarily use it.

I have a reamer from PT&G and barrel from McGowan that both should be here in 2-3 weeks...for MY 510 cal Rigby based cartridge...I won't have any problems getting it to work...any more than getting any of the other cases to work if I choose one of them...AND RIP would have a coniption fit I'm guessing, if I posted MY wildcat on AmmoGuide, along with a Gibbs based case that will come along soon...but I won't, there's way too much pecker waving going on as it is, worse than some pig shops and job shops I've worked in...

Or...maybe I will post it...just to stick it in a little deeper. Then I can say "I'm one of the chosen few...I'm published...again."

Anyway...ya'll are the experts so I'll let you have it...I'm done.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
the 416 ruger is awesome .. until it came out, i would have said 416 ar .. but the ruger, though an RCH smaller, is a facotry round

S&F and I have just imported a 416Ruger reamer so he can convert his Taylor. I was keen to build one as well ... until I remembered the 458AR will duplicate it with a fatter projectile and using cheaper 405gr pills. It'll also never break a sweat doing it. Build it light and shoot a 400gr pill at 2350fps and your laughing all the way with the 458AR.
Cheers...
Con

FOOBAR,

quote:

I never said it would be easy or that you didn't have to do some tweaking...this is WILDCATING at it's finest...

I have a Jeffery case in my hand with a 525gr cast lead bullet that will fit my Tang Model Ruger, 30-06 bolt face(when I get after it with a grinder) at 3.33" COAL...but it is a bit on the fat side for this action without some rail work...I won't say anything about the case capacity in respect to RIP's fragile feelings.

You might have to trim the 500 AHR a scosh and seat a little deaper.

First let me say I did not realize we were discussing wildcatting. You have not named a single wildcat in your post (see quote above). Secondly the Ruger M77 is too short for the 500 AHR and not the best choice even for the somewhat shorter 500 Jeffery.

This is a pic of the Ruger M77 MkII with a 500 AHR (570gr Woodleigh) setting in the rifle (sort of it doesn't fit). The bolt is all the way back against the bolt stop, the cartridge is up against the bolt, and the cartridge will not clear the ejection port in the action. Furthermore, the magazine would need to be extended to the point that the lower lug race would have to be removed to fit the cartridge! So you would be shorting the 500AHR a bit more than a "scosh" to get it to fit!



Case head pic.



The other issue with the M77 is the barrel thread shank is awful small (1 - 16 TPI) for such a large diameter case. If you want pics of that let me know and I can get some of those too.

Finally, with regard to 525gr hard cast gas checked bullets. They suck! I use them to fireform 500 A2 cases and they WILL NOT penetrate a 6" diameter choke cherry at 40 yards! The muzzle velocity is a lowly 2150 fps and the bullets grenade. Not a good choice for hunting anything.

The 416 ruger is the best choice.I want to rebarrel my old ruger 77 in a 416 Ruger.Which stock would you use?Can you just put cross bolts in the old stock?I dont know anyone that makes a strong fiberglass stock for the old ruger 77 mark I.I love the tang Safety I hate model 70 safetys .Its like a fine double safety vs opening a barn door while something is biting on you cause your too late to shoot it up close.

you can reuse your stock .. i've done the 500 and 470 AccRel in ruger wood stocks, bedded, with a wrist pin, no xbolts... though both had recoil lugs on the barrel ... it even survives lead sleds!