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Asiatic Trophies (Pics)
17 January 2011, 05:05
Doug PisanoAsiatic Trophies (Pics)
Collector,
The ranch I was on has barasingha, pere davids, elds, dybowski sikas, blackbuck, axis and a slew of others from other countries. I was quite impressed!
18 January 2011, 01:44
collectorWow that sure sounds like a nice collection all in one place. I heard they have Père David's Deer in Argentina now as well and that there are some monster trophies on some ranches.
I am so glad and thankful that due to the far out thinking and planning of these hunter conservationists these species have a chance to do well.
18 January 2011, 01:48
collectorNilgai
Also known as Blue Bull
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Big bulls can reach 530 pounds. Hunting is closed in India but a permit can be arranged in Eastern Pakistan (bordering with India). Nepal also has them but not in large numbers like India.
18 January 2011, 02:15
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18 January 2011, 02:51
Doug PisanoThat would be nice David! Me too...but...2 in college...must stay stateside for another few years!!!
19 January 2011, 20:08
collector@LDK
That would be sweet...it is looked up as quite the trophy among Australian and Kiwi hunters.
19 January 2011, 20:12
collectorChinkara Gazelle
Also known as Ravine Deer, also known as Indian Gazelle.
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They remind me of African Springboks but they are a bit smaller than the Springbok at around 45 pounds in weight. Desert area between India and Pakistan is loaded with them. The sides of the face have dark chestnut stripes from the corner of the eye to the muzzle, bordered by white stripes. Horns of the male reach about 16 inches.
20 January 2011, 02:43
Equinsu OchaCollector,
great post.. The Asian species have always held my attention as much as any of the African species (some more so).
Now lets get into the Capra and Ovis overload that the Asian continent holds!!
Ajun, wonderful pics. Your family has done some hunts that we can only dream of in this day and age. A trophy seladang would be my idea of a dream Indian shikar hunt. I'm sure you cherish those pics!
20 January 2011, 12:25
Andersquote:
Originally posted by Scottyboy:
Now lets get into the Capra and Ovis overload that the Asian continent holds!!
+1!
What about members sharing their trophy photos from Asia as well?
IMO, we need to increase the Asian forum activity
20 January 2011, 17:36
collector@Scottyboy
Thanks, glad you are enjoying this ongoing thread. I was saving the Sheeps and Goats for later but I guess we can start
@Anders
Agreed, I am sure everyone will appreciate the Asiatic trophies.
20 January 2011, 17:51
collectorChevrotain
Also known as Mouse Deer
These small deer are mostly nocturnal and weigh around 7 pounds. Males usually have small fangs which I believe are one of the coolest features of this species.
- Their African cousin (Water Chevrotain) is much bigger at 25 pounds.
- Smallest one is from Java Indonesia, it is about the size of a big rabbit (around 4 pounds).
20 January 2011, 18:07
collectorHimalayan Tahr
There are 2 other Tahr Species
- Nilgiri Tahr
- Arabian Tahr
Tahr are kind of in a specialized genetic limbo...they are considered neither sheep, nor goats or goat antelopes. On the genetic tree, they fall somewhere between true goats and goat antelopes.
20 January 2011, 19:01
collectorHimalayan Tahr trophy.
Good trophies are not only judged by the maturity of their horns but also by the fullness of the lion-like mane.
21 January 2011, 20:19
collectorAsiatic Cheetah
There are still a few wild ones left in the Balochistan Province of Pakistan.
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There are 6 sub-species in the world, one in Asia and the rest of the 5 in Africa:
- Asiatic Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus venaticus)
- South African Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus jubatus)
- Northwest African Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus hecki)
- East African Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus raineyii)
- Central African Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus soemmeringii)
- West African Cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus velox)
There had been a very old custom of Indian royalty using Cheetahs for hunting. Dedicated trainers devoted their entire lives to train the Cheetahs for hunting.
If you have a few minutes to spare please watch this amazing video of Blackbuck Hunting with Cheetahs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NevenDIp95AThe huge herds of Blackbucks that you saw in the video are still there in Sindh Province of Pakistan where they are protected by the local landlords. Trophy hunting for Blackbucks can be arranged by permit along with Sind Ibex, Blandford Urial, and Chinkara Gazelle on the same trip.
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23 January 2011, 06:47
NakihunterJust a minor (or major???) comment. The water buffalo introduced into Australia was actually domestic stock from SE Asia that was taken to the Northern Territory to be used for plough and draft work like they are in Thailand & Vietnam. The real WILD Buffalo of Eastern India and Burma (probably extinct) elsewhere is a huge animal - even bigger than the Gaur. The wild buffalo can stand as high 6.5 feet and weigh 3000 lbs. They are very aggressive and will regularly attack and kill domestiic stock that go into forest to graze. Each year some forest department staff are killed in Assam state in NE India - particularly in Khaziranga national park which is a Rhino & Tiger reserve as well. The Wild buffalo is even known to charge riding elephants in the park. Tigers are known to occasionally kill adult Gaur but not wild buffalo.
The domestic buffalo is about half the size (the Australian feral buffalo is about two thirds the size). Yet the temperament of the domestic buffalo is such that they used to be employed to thick elephant grass lands to beat out tigers for hunters on elephants.
quote:
Originally posted by collector:
Water Buffalo
This is the species that was imported into Australia....nice trophy goes 100 inches and over. Current SCI number one score is a tad over 142.
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
23 January 2011, 07:00
NakihunterGreat thread Collector.
The Indian sub-continent had 3 species of Rhino - the great Indian One horned which is found in Nepal & NE India - this animal is just a bit smaller than the African White rhino. Then you have the lesser 2 horned Sumatra Rhino and the lesser one horned Java rhino both of which are thought to be extinct in India and Burma. A small population of the Java rhino has recently been discovered in the forests of Vietnam - I saw a recent documentary & was absolutely gobsmacked as this was in an area that was central to the war & Agent Orange spraying. One still hears rumours of rhinos present in the jungles of Malaysia and even Arunachal Pradesh in NE India but no concrete evidence has been gathered as far as I am aware.
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
23 January 2011, 07:19
collector@Nakihunter
I knew I had taken the picture of the Sumatran Rhino...dug it out here it is.
Sumatran Rhino
As trail-cameras become cheaper over time, I would not be surprised if the pics of miniature Rhinos start to surface out of Malaysia and Indonesia.
23 January 2011, 18:17
ldeCollector,
x2 on your posts. Enjoy reading your's and Naki's posts on here.
Thanks.
24 January 2011, 03:26
NakihunterThanks Ide
Just for info India has an amazing mix of animals from alpine animals like the Tibetan Argali, Markhor, wild yak, snow leopard & Ibex to the desert animals like the Chinkara gazzell, sand cat etc. to the dry scrub animals like Caracal, Nilghai etc to the tropical rain forest animals like the fishing cat, golden cat, clouded leopard etc. There is also the freshwater (blind) Gangetic dolphin, Salt, fresh & gharial crocs, and the dugong on the coast. India is the only country that had all the major old world big cats - Tiger, Lion, Leopard, Snow leopard, Clouded leopard & cheetah. The Manas sanctuary is unique in having 4 of them (excluding the lion & cheetah) within its boundaries.
World record Sambar was 54 inches! Any Sambar below 36 inches was considered non-trophy!
No more hunting though!
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
24 January 2011, 05:07
StormsGSPquote:
Originally posted by collector:
Chevrotain
Also known as Mouse Deer
These small deer are mostly nocturnal and weigh around 7 pounds. Males usually have small fangs which I believe are one of the coolest features of this species.
- Their African cousin (Water Chevrotain) is much bigger at 25 pounds.
- Smallest one is from Java Indonesia, it is about the size of a big rabbit (around 4 pounds).
Here is a very neat clip of a hawk hunting a chevrotain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13GQbT2ljxs
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09 February 2011, 22:11
collectorSorry, got side tracked, I fully intend on keeping this thread alive.
HIMALAYAN IBEX
Here is the Himalayan Ibex. Hunt takes place in Northern Pakistan. You can fly from most international airports directly to Islamabad. Stay overnight, take the flight next day to Skardu. If the weather is bad and they are not flying into Skardu then you have the option of taking a 4x4 trip to Skardu. That is the starting location of the hunt. Hunter has to be in good physical shape to trek the Himalayan slopes.
10 February 2011, 17:43
collectorSINDH IBEX
Here is the Sindh Ibex found in Southern Pakistan. We have a wonderful operation for this Ibex species. You can fly into Karachi from anywhere in the world, rest of the travel is on 4x4. Hunter needs to be in moderate physical condition. I prefer the .270 WSM for Ibex with 140 grains Barnes TSX, they usually do a fantastic job on them. You can combine the Blandford Urial, Chinkara Gazelle and Blackbuck on the same hunt. We usually allocate 3 days for each species !!!
10 February 2011, 23:47
profyhunterMid-Asia Ibex
11 February 2011, 14:28
AndersMy Altai or Siberian Ibex from the Sayan Mts.
11 February 2011, 17:24
collectorSnow Leopard
They live between 9,000 ft and 18,000 ft elevation. Population estimated at about 8,000 in the wild. Fur is extremely thick and their body has evolved to reduce heat loss as much as possible. They have unusually large and thick tails which is used for balancing the body and very large nasal cavities that help them breathe the thin cold air of the asiatic mountains. Range...Central Asia to Pakistan.
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Food Source:
- Himalayan Blue Sheep
- Ibex
- Argali
- Markhor
- Urial
- Tahr
- Wild Boar
- Langur Monkey
- Wild Hare
- Rodents
- Snow Cock
- Chukar
- Grass (Significant Amount)
- Twigs (Significant Amount)
15 February 2011, 14:21
NakihunterGreat stuff. The snow leopard is also found across the Himalayas in India, Nepal & Bhutan - it extends to the eastern mountains of China & Arunachal Pradesh in India - which is probably its Eastern most limit. That is very remote country and the tribals of the lower hills were head hunters well in the 1980s!!
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
16 February 2011, 15:31
NakihunterA few pics of Mouse deer taken recently by a friend
http://www.facebook.com/profil...8.1536565721&theater
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
17 February 2011, 04:22
SGraves155Nakihunter and collector,
Those mouse deer are similar in size, shape, and coloration to the Paca rodent of central America. Interesting. They must fill the same environmental niche.
04 June 2011, 19:28
Pir_Danish
Mugger Crocodile (my humble addition )
04 June 2011, 19:29
Pir_Danish
Wild Boar of Sindh-Pakistan
04 June 2011, 19:33
Pir_Danish
Chinkara Gazelle
Blandford Urial
Sindh Ibex
04 June 2011, 19:36
Pir_Danish
Himalayan Thar
04 June 2011, 20:54
CaracalVery interesting. There is not a lot of infos about hunting in Paki ostan. Please share moreof your hunting pics.
04 June 2011, 20:59
Pir_Danishhi caracal, thanks for the compliment, some of my other hunting pictures are on a seperate thread named Sindh ibex and blandford urial, its under asian hunts.
best regards
Danish
07 June 2011, 15:42
NakihunterGreat trophies Dhanishji. Where did you get that nice tahr?
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
08 June 2011, 00:40
Sweet RiverCollector,
I found this post too late. Any chance of getting the pics back up?
08 June 2011, 03:52
Pir_Danishthe snow leopard
08 June 2011, 18:17
SevensSnow leopards! Now that's a trophy you don't see every day.
09 June 2011, 08:18
NakihunterDanish
Is snow leopard legal game now OR are those trophies from many years ago? Please post some background info.
Also, do you have any Markhor trophies?
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
09 June 2011, 15:40
Pir_Danishthese are very old trophies as you can tell from the condition when there was no restriction on snow leopard hunting. they are now in the trophy room of a friend in Sindh.
