Been thinking about starting a thread of Asiatic trophies...here it goes.

Gaur


I will be adding more pics as time permits.

A "Gaur Foundation" to get breeding herds established in Australia, New Guinea, and/or Central and South America would be a great thing. Of course in today's politically correct climate, it would be impossible.

Water Buffalo

This is the species that was imported into Australia....nice trophy goes 100 inches and over. Current SCI number one score is a tad over 142.

@SGraves155
Your Gaur post really motivated me to start this thread....so thank you for the inspiration. And I agree Gaur are absolutely majestic.....a Gaur trophy mount next to a Cape Buffalo mount would look awesome.

My father with one of the many gaur he shot


My father with a 43" Sambar stag


My father with a 10'2" tiger - his 7th, he shot several more!



For those interested, he used a 9x57 Oberndorf mauser for most of his hunting and actually preferred that to his 375 flanged H&H on tigers. He complained of the old Kynoch bullets breaking up due to high velocity.

A friend of the family



Arjun Reddy
www.huntersnetworks.com

Arjun,
fantastic trophies your father got. Thanks for sharing with us.

Thank you for sharing such precious and private photos

Wonderful to see what was there in the bygone days

I am priviledged to be able to spend a few days with a friend's father recently

He shared his memories about tiger management in India in the "old days"

However I am not in a position to post any photos

How many more of these hunters are left ???

Arjun,

The photo of your Father with the tiger is fantastic. I love the pistol tucked in the waistband.

Thank you for sharing.

@reddy375
Thanks for sharing the pics...just absolutely wonderful. The one where your dad is sitting on the tiger is awesome.

Sambar

Big males can get upwards of 800 pounds.

Great pictures, Arjun!!!
I can`t even imagine your father`s hunts! What years!!
Were before or after II War?

Best Regards

PH

collector,

I should have mentioned in my previous post, this is an excellent idea for a thread.

Thank you.

collector,
Please tell us about these museum pieces/dioramas--where, how, and your connections.

Asiatic Lions

They are much lighter in color when compared to their African counterparts.

@Kathi
Thank you, I am sure people will contribute more to this thread over time.

There was a time not too long ago when a hunter would say "I am going on a safari" and people would ask "Africa or India ???".


@SGraves155
I took these pics at the Natural History Museum in New York City couple of years ago. They have a small area dedicated to Asiatic species. The only problem is that flash photography is not allowed there and the area is very dark. I finally got an iMac that could massage these old dark pics and make them semi-presentable. Will post more soon.

Cheetal

Also known as Chital Deer, Spotted Deer or Axis Deer.

reddy375 thanks for shraing these photos.

Banteng

Big males range from 1,300 pounds to 1,800 pounds.

Asiatic Leopard

Genetically the Asiatic Leopard is identical to the African Leopard...hence it is not considered to be a separate sub-species. Here is a pair over a peacock kill.

great pics!

For chital, here is my nicest trophy.

Hog Deer

Also known as Para

@Chasseur
That is a sweet Axis deer....Congratulations on such a fine trophy.

Barasingha

Also known as Swamp Deer, also known as Barasinga.

(Image Courtesy of Picasa)

They have splayed hooves which help them move around in the swamp easily. They are the Asian counterparts of African Sitatunga as far as habitat is concerned (Swamp Life).

Bara (Twelve) Singha (Antlers)....most mature males have 12 tines hence the name Twelve-tiner or Bara-Singha.

quote:

A "Gaur Foundation" to get breeding herds established in Australia, New Guinea, and/or Central and South America would be a great thing. Of course in today's politically correct climate, it would be impossible.

It is a shame they weren't released when the water buffalo and bentang where in Australia. I assume they would have done just as well. You guys just need some tigers and you could compete as the new India and safari destination of choice.

The irony with Australia is your greenies want all the non-native species eradicated, while in the USA our greenies want us to not shoot the non-native species (like addax and scimitar oryx). If only they could all move to Antarctica where there's nothing worthwhile to make a fuss over.



Collector, I notice the bentang in the photo are much lighter than those in Australia. Is this due to climate?

Tigers,Leopards,Gaur,ungulates in Australia.A very sound idea.


Best-
Locksley,R

@Sevens
Banteng in their native wild form come in 2 color phases, one light and one dark.

Usually color forms alone are not used to define sub-species within a species as there could be a wide range of coloration in between the light and dark. Now if there are enough changes in genetic markers then the scientists usually call for a ruling on the sub-species status.

The Australian Banteng was probably based on the dark color form and hence most of the trophies from Australia seem to lean towards the dark form.

Blackbuck Antelope



Totally protected in India, hunting in its native range can be arranged in Pakistan without any problem. In Pakistan it is known as Kala (Black) Hiran (Deer). Imported populations in USA (primarily Texas), Argentina and Australia (limited) are doing quite well. A good Blackbuck trophy has 3 curls...an exceptional trophy has 4 curls....not many of those 4 curlers are around except in the native range.

Asiatic Elephant


Totally different species when compared to the African Elephant.

Scientific Names:
Asiatic Elephant: Elephas maximus
African Elephant: Loxodonta africana


- Biggest males upto 11,000 pounds (compared to biggest African eles at 13,000 pounds)
- About 50,000 left in the wild (compared to 700,00 wild elephants in Africa)
- Different head shape
- Smaller ears
- More arched back
- 4 nails on each hind foot (3 on african)
- 19 pairs of ribs (21 on african)
- Forehead has 2 hemispherical bulges (Flat front on african)
- 1 semi-prehensile finger at tip of tusk (2 on african)


Current Population Estimates:
Bhutan - 500
Burma - 5,300
Cambodia - 600
China - 250
India - 32,900
Indonesia - 1,537
Laos - 1,200
Malaysia - 3,066
Borneo - 1,600
Nepal - 170
Sri Lanka - 3,000
Thailand - 3,700
Vietnam - 94

Great thread!
Very informative

Hey Collector...isn't that an Eld's Deer in your Jan 12th post?? I may be wrong (wouldn't be the first time). I saw them at the Galloway Ranch in Pearsol TX.

Hi Doug,

I will double check my notes...the pics I took were horrible...maybe I can find a better pic by someone else that shows antlers in profile.

Indian Rhinoceros

Also known as One-horned Rhinoceros.


Scientific Names and Weights for comparison:
Indian Rhino: Rhinoceros unicornis (7,100 lbs)

African White Rhino: Ceratotherium simum (7,700 lbs)
African Black Rhino: Diceros bicornis (3,500 lbs)

Indian Muntjac Deer

Also known as Barking Deer


Note the long upper canine teeth. They have shrill dog-like barks...hence the other name (Barking Deer).

Hi Collector! You found a new pic of a barasinga!!! Spectacular photo!!! I had the opportunity to shoot a top 10 but could not renegotiate the straopheric price!

Doug, some of the Texas ranches have very good quality Asiatic animals. I believe the ranches are supposed to send 10% back to the country where the animal came from. If the ranch you were on had a top 10 SCI animal then you know they are taking very good care of them. We need to get the word out about these awesome Asiatic trophies that are available in USA, Argentina and Australia.

Tiger



There are 6 sub-species in the world right now and the Siberian sub-species is the biggest with some males reaching over 700 pounds...good 150 pounds heavier than the biggest African Lion (550 pounds).

Sub-species and average weights of males:
- Bengal Tiger (500 lbs)
- Indochinese Tiger (420 lbs)
- Malayan Tiger (265 lbs)
- Sumatran Tiger (310 lbs)
- Siberian Tiger (500 lbs)
- South China Tiger (390 lbs)

Four-horned Antelope

One of the most interesting species...big males are about 44 pounds....with 4 horns coming out of the head.



Close up of the head with 4 horns.

Arjun:

Your dad's sambar is about the best I've ever seen.

The 10 foot tiger is amazing as well.

Thanks for posting and sharing.

It looks like we lost a wildlife paradise!