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On the surface Trumps done well! While Europe I think can claim damage limitation. Underneath Id say Europe has agreed to buy the things it currently needs anyway, Weapons and energy. If I were a guessing man Id say they will work on becoming more self sufficient in those aspects and this gives them time. | ||
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Nothing as it seems! Especially if the ORANGE TURD tells you it is. | |||
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Yeah, I'm afraid the US has hurt its longterm national interests in exchange for some short term puffery and gratification of the egotist in chief. | |||
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From what I see so far, it seems both parties are relatively happy. So maybe a reasonable compromise. I think though time will tell and I wonder how much Europe is just waiting for a change in govt? | |||
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This is different from any other 20th or 21st century president HOW? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Everybody smiles, everybody shakes hands for the cameras, Trump gets to boast - about something that’s not on paper and has not been ratified by either group of legislators. The International community has learned how to handle the Petulant Child King. Pat him on the head, tell him how great he is, and send him on his way while quietly establishing serious trade connections with mentally competent countries. They all know he’ll change his mind twice before his plane lands anyway. | |||
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For us this is not a bad thing. It has definitely given bilateral free trade deals a sense of urgency in many nations. We have recently completed deals with the UAE, The Uk, and are moving forward with India And Mexico/South America, While our dispute with Canada over access for our dairy products got quickly resolved for some reason. | |||
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You do realize that the dairy product tariff (duly ratified in NAFTA) was set to kick in at a level that was Never. Once. Reached. It was just an issue that Trump latched onto for an excuse to bitch and play his crooked games. There is no ‘urgency’ - there’s only a strategy to mollify a pathological liar and dangerous heavily armed megalomaniac until the world sheds itself of him. | |||
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Nafta doesn't cover NZ, dude opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Im not versed well in NAFTA to comment. We were at loggerheads with Canada ourselves, and coincidently or not they accepted our position when this all happened. I simply have a suspicion the two are linked. | |||
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I’m not surprised. Deals that bypass the U.S. are proliferating. Everybody but the Americans win. | |||
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I guess time will tell. I suspect the long term looks shaky... But these concessions are also coming with the promises of massive investment in the US. As you say, will they end up being ratified? | |||
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This is a good summary: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czxpdv5x54ko.amp EU steel and aluminium will also continue to face a 50% tariff when sold into the US. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c14g8gk8vdlo.amp | |||
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Yep a good summary. Do you think Europe is betting on the tariffs being temporary? | |||
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i do not know but the signature of eu doenst mean as of today that countries has ratified it ... it is the signature of the unlected one and will certainly increase the anti eu mood in europe ... | |||
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Yes, each individual nation has to sign off. I do not know. I think the EU, more or less, decided someone had to prevent a near international economic collapse/crisis. I think so ratification through legislation, these tariffs are going away. However, this S. Ct., majority has had one through line: expand the power of the Executive. Trump and his team are not smart enough or thoughtful enough to care. | |||
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trump offered a no tax deal for 350 billions of oil and natural gas in april and now it is 750 billions with 15% what a deal lol ... cant wait to see what carney will try to force on the provinces to sign over there ... | |||
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According to the BBC, the France is very disappointed in all this. I expect member states will go along. The risk of breaking is just too high to everyone. | |||
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Europe has a long history, they can hold their collective breath for three and a half years... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Tariffs by the U.S. turned a crisis into the Great Depression. | |||
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Yes, its awful! Cutting off welfare.....I dont know how you Canadians will survive..... And Europe? Wow! Not buying natgas and crude from putin??? How will he get the money to keep invading? | |||
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Jtex would burn his house down just to get ash on his neighbor’s yard. This is the most simple form I can find that Jtex still won’t read. After all, reading is for Commies. Tariffs are dangerous. They are seductive as a simple solution, but there are no simple solutions. https://www.senate.gov/artandh...ot_Hawley_Tariff.htm | |||
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we will survive and less and less with your money ... btw we are starting natgas outside of the us market ... what a shock for you ... hilarious thinking your supreme leader will buy soon oil from venezuela one of your enemy how will you survive to that lol ... | |||
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The situation is embarrassingly stupid. | |||
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https://youtube.com/shorts/eEg...?si=zJbe-jXYZKadJvtU Did you notice von der Leyen’s pushback ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Cool, go get your rulers to place a mutual embargo on the US -- We'll see how that goes .. it will literally cost more in shipping TO a west coast terminal than to put in a pipeline to the US... In the south, we call this "cutting off your nose to spite your face" Canada CAN'T win this -- and they can't even make the investments (Pierre had a post on this yesterday) for plants and pipelines -- oh, precious, we EXPORT more LNG than Canada makes .. you are holding a busted hand, 9 high .. good luck opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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you are importing natgas and oil from canada to export it ... remember you cannot export your own productions abroad ... tell me how it will work when you will not get ours and will rely on venezuela ones lol but of course you know better ... enjoy the tariffs my dear ... | |||
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https://apple.news/Ae3B2qZINTPaj6YPgWGnwsQ Trump says he will fire labor stat keeper. Who needs truth when yuh can make it up. | |||
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You should question whatever meds or recreational substances you are using. Of course the US "can" export our LNG, in fact we are the largest exporter on the planet. Canada is pretty far down the list https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=64844 Take it up with the EIA So, do you ever get tired of being wrong? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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While I disagree with firing her, take a look at the PUBLISHED and then revised job reports for the last 18 months. 100% on time, huge number of retractions and always downward. Want to be amused? Look at this specifically for the first half of 2024. Go ahead. Oh, darn, I used facts in an emotive discussion opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Hey, selfmed https://edmontonjournal.com/bu...tates-hurdles-canada Canadian oil and gas moving capital to the US. Weird. Guess they are traitors IF she'll ever gets their ONE LNG port working, it can almost hit 15% of the us daily exports, IF they get train 1 working and then get train 2 up. https://www.reuters.com/busine...rces-say-2025-07-29/ At the moment, selfmed exports more gas than Canada can export lng Only took 7 years to get to a badly malfunctioning plant.. you go, tiger, you might hit 30% of us exports of lng by 2080 Ye olde bird in hand is worth more than 2 in the bush opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/mone...PXL?ocid=socialshare Trump fires head of labor statistics bureau after weak jobs report: Live updates Story by Joey Garrison, Savannah Kuchar and Medora Lee, USA TODAY • 19m • 11 min read ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Weird, Trump first labor stats chief when Jin growth is weak. Delaware’s largest importer is Canada. Canada just hit a 35 percent tariff. Killing the US as a market brought to you by Trump and Jeff. Lay down with the dog you bought. | |||
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lol do you export your oil extracted and produced on your soil? just by curiosity why are you byuing from us and soon venezuela (the best new ally of usa lol) the same for lng how come are you byuing from us if you do not need our natgas and oil? lol | |||
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for the record: The United States remained a net crude oil importer in 2022, importing about 6.28 million b/d of crude oil and exporting about 3.58 million b/d. Some of the crude oil that the U.S. imports is refined by U.S. refineries into petroleum products—such as gasoline, heating oil, diesel fuel, and jet fuel—that the U.S. later exports. Also, some of imported petroleum may be stored and later exported. https://www.eia.gov/energyexpl...orts-and-exports.php Natural gas imports peaked in 2007 Total U.S. annual natural gas imports in 2007 reached about 4.61 Tcf (12.62 billion cubic feet per day [Bcf/d]) and have generally declined each year since then. In 2022, total annual U.S. natural gas imports were about 3.02 Tcf (8.28 Bcf/d), which was about 8% more than in 2021 and the highest volume since 2017. Some of this imported natural gas may have been exported. Most of U.S. natural gas imports are from Canada In 2022, about 99% of U.S. total annual natural gas imports were from Canada and nearly all by pipeline. A small amount of CNG —0.01% of total natural gas imports—was tranported by truck from Canada. About 1% of total U.S. natural gas imports was LNG; 99% was from Trinidad and Tobago and the remainder was from Canada. U.S. natural gas imports are generally highest in winter when imports help meet increases in natural gas demand for heating. https://www.eia.gov/energyexpl...orts-and-exports.php to sum up you are importing from us to export oil and natural gas but continue to fool your self as you do not need canada lol | |||
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We'll see. I've yet to see any sort of written, signed and enforceable agreements put in place that support all of the claims that the orange shit-gibbon is advancing. He lies about everything. Who knows. | |||
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One thing I’ve notice is what President Trump claims his tariff deals are versus the other party says about them do not match. | |||
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yes, we absolutely export oil, gas, and LNG -- are you under the impression that US can't export it's own oil? what it can't do, for WTI, is generally process it, so we sell it for X and buy ME oil for roughly the same, saving BILLIONS of EPA regs and capex to not build new refineries -- we EXPORT more LNG than import natgas from canada (these are different products) - oh, sweetheart - here, you might read up on YOUR COUNTRY's exports - https://www.capp.ca/wp-content...-and-Natural-Gas.pdf three US states have a higher GDP than ALL of canada - and total US GDP is 10x Canada This isn't a dispute between equals, you should recognize that --- 10x -- let's make certain we understand that -- like toddler threatening "The Mountain" . 40 something vs 400 something it only took Shell Canada SEVEN YEARS to barely get 1/2 an LNG plant operating -- Canada could cut off ALL petrol to the US, and in, under this "regime" would have a mathballed refinery up and running in 18 months, and you hissy fit MIGHT raise gas prices 5¢ for 18 months -- and process WTI, which would cascade to other plants coming on line to do the same, to harvest this economic boon atm, a barrel of brent is $73 and a bit (that's like 100 loonies) - OH MY GOODNESS, WTI is a couple bucks cheaper .... you might be old enough to get this "Don't throw me in that briar patch" opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Sonny, we export more LNG than canada PRODUCES - (nat gas is a slightly different product as one's a LIQUID under high pressure, and one's a gas- i don't expect you be able to process boyle's law on that, but it's HUGE) it's cute how to mix and match unrelated and different time frame stats .. it's like you believe this ... opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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