On many news networks.

One source as of now.
I won’t bother posting that yet because I know you all will dismiss it.

I’ll let this play out but here’s a clip:

“Bureau officials confirmed that Tyler Robinson, 22, was in a "romantic relationship" with the unnamed person, who is a male transitioning to a female, and that they shared an apartment in Saint George, Utah. Those FBI officials told (redacted) that Robinson's partner is fully cooperating with the FBI's investigation”

Huvius, being in a romantic relationship with a trans person is different from being trans yourself. You said:

"Turns out he is transgender."

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Huvius, being in a romantic relationship with a trans person is different from being trans yourself. You said:

"Turns out he is transgender."

well the second version that you found was of course not fiting the agenda that some followers of the cult of the supreme leader are trying to create ... on fox news they are still talking about the writing on ammo as antifa rethoric ...

The “reports” I’ve seen say the teams tonnage was very helpful with las enforcement that led to the identification and arrest.

Good for her.

And bad form by Huvius.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

And bad form by Huvius.

Bad form?
From this group I’ll take that as a compliment.
So, a “romantic relationship” means what exactly?

Where was I wrong counselor?

The person you make out to be some cancer cancer if this crime performed her role as a citizen honorably assisting law enforcement in this killer’s apprehension.

Good for her. You are a much lower person.

Good day.

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Originally posted by Huvius:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

And bad form by Huvius.

Bad form?
From this group I’ll take that as a compliment.
So, a “romantic relationship” means what exactly?

Where was I wrong counselor?

I would define a romantic relationship as an association between two or more people who are in love with each other.

If one of them is trans, it doesn't follow that the other is.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The person you make out to be some cancer cancer if this crime performed her role as a citizen honorably assisting law enforcement in this killer’s apprehension.
.

Yeah I said similar today, presuming much but it seems they told the killers father and both of them made an incredibly hard but honourable decision to notify and help law enforcement.

I have much respect if thats the case.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by Huvius:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

And bad form by Huvius.

Bad form?
From this group I’ll take that as a compliment.
So, a “romantic relationship” means what exactly?

Where was I wrong counselor?

I would define a romantic relationship as an association between two or more people who are in love with each other.

If one of them is trans, it doesn't follow that the other is.

OK, so he is in fact just a regular homosexual who happens to be having a romantic relationship with a transsexual.
Got it.
This still flies in the face of the “facts” that the OP, Mike Mitchell posted at the start.
Mea Culpa

Now when will MM admit he was wrong?

If a man falls in love with a trans-woman, he's not necessarily a homosexual.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
If a man falls in love with a trans-woman, he's not necessarily a homosexual.

Nah, not a homer, just a guy who likes his bung hole reamed by someone that looks sorta feminine.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
If a man falls in love with a trans-woman, he's not necessarily a homosexual.

"The Crying Game" comes to mind...

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I would define a romantic relationship as an association between two or more people who are in love with each other.

If one of them is trans, it doesn't follow that the other is.

It does mean they are both mentally ill however.

I dont quite agree. The partner has shown commendable common sense and fortitude to do the right thing. Thats not signs of illness.

The shooter though, thats unarguable.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
If a man falls in love with a trans-woman, he's not necessarily a homosexual.

sure, rolly -- a man falling in love with a man (that's literally the DEFINITION of homosexual) isn't gay .. have you been hanging out with maggie.. love IS love, but words have meaning .. oh, wait, you are a little coward, who's lost EVERY exchange with me, after YOUR picked the fights. poor little thing .. run away, brave sir robin, run away

Who, better, why care. It matters not.

The insinuation that a trans people as a class are to blame for this is nonsense, underscore bigotry.

There is no reporting the trans person coordinated, conspired, or directed any activity that wrought this killing.

All the facts reported is the trans person assisted in bringing the suspected killer to arrest.

Good job. That was her obligation as a citizen.


This entire discussion is grotesque.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
If a man falls in love with a trans-woman, he's not necessarily a homosexual.

I mean, .....Dude.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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I would define a romantic relationship as an association between two or more people who are in love with each other.

If one of them is trans, it doesn't follow that the other is.

It does mean they are both mentally ill however.

So, does Trump now propose a new prohibited category, for 4473 forms?
No one will like that. Not Democrats, not Republicans either. He's in a bind.
Best to hit the links and let others handle this. There's no upside to it.

Should Robinson's legal team file an insanity plea, then?
Maybe get off the hook with a few years in a facility?

What's appropriate?

Just out of interest. Here we have a category for people who commit such act's, but are found insane. Its called preventive detention. It basically means that if their defence is insanity, they get jailed for the rest of their life to prevent them doing any other harm.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The “reports” I’ve seen say the teams tonnage was very helpful with las enforcement that led to the identification and arrest.

Good for her.

And bad form by Huvius.

You are going to have to translate "teams tonnage" for me. I can't get it to fit. Bill

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
If a man falls in love with a trans-woman, he's not necessarily a homosexual.

I mean, .....Dude.

Yeah, dude. This is obvious stuff.

I ran a search on "can a straight man fall in love with a trans woman," and got this AI overview:

"Yes, a straight man can fall in love with a trans woman, as love and attraction are not limited by gender identity. A straight man's attraction to a trans woman is simply an attraction to a woman, just as his attraction to a cisgender woman would be. The label "straight" refers to the gender of the person someone is attracted to, and if a man identifies as straight, his attraction to a woman, regardless of whether she is cisgender or transgender, aligns with his orientation."

Also got links like this one:

https://news.ucr.edu/articles/...on-transgender-women

The world is a big, wide place, my friend, and all sorts of folks inhabit it.

Dude (using the moniker in the theme of this context),
If you have to Google that malarkey to try and decide whether all involved with that couple are insane or not…

…you too might want to consider visiting the psychiatrist. Just saying!

Of course…all involved there flew over the cuckoo’s next a while ago.

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The “reports” I’ve seen say the teams tonnage was very helpful with las enforcement that led to the identification and arrest.

Good for her.

And bad form by Huvius.

You are going to have to translate "teams tonnage" for me. I can't get it to fit. Bill

Bill, I have worked long and had to decipher many of these bubbles.
From contextual, and topical refence I infer he mean it the killer's "friend".

Oddly, or not so much, the "las enforcement " when likely meant law enforcement slide right past me

"Oh my goodness, kick me out of heaven. The "w" is right above and behind the "s"... generally, so is the safety

Well, here is what the killer's "friend" had to say about the killers mind set
https://www.foxnews.com/us/cha...stians-relative-says

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
If a man falls in love with a trans-woman, he's not necessarily a homosexual.

I’m sorry, but every time I read this I’m reminded of this episode of South Park!

https://youtu.be/ol9gc3dPtos?feature=shared

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
If a man falls in love with a trans-woman, he's not necessarily a homosexual.

I mean, .....Dude.

Yeah, dude. This is obvious stuff.

I ran a search on "can a straight man fall in love with a trans woman," and got this AI overview:

"Yes, a straight man can fall in love with a trans woman, as love and attraction are not limited by gender identity. A straight man's attraction to a trans woman is simply an attraction to a woman, just as his attraction to a cisgender woman would be. The label "straight" refers to the gender of the person someone is attracted to, and if a man identifies as straight, his attraction to a woman, regardless of whether she is cisgender or transgender, aligns with his orientation."

Also got links like this one:

https://news.ucr.edu/articles/...on-transgender-women

The world is a big, wide place, my friend, and all sorts of folks inhabit it.

It is obvious stuff. It's obvious to myself and every other reasonable person that a man loving a man is homosexual. It doesn't matter who's pretending to be what, it doesn't matter what someone feels, wants, dreams about or really, really, really needs, if the chromosomes don't fit they don't fit.

If the guy wants to live another guy, that's gay. Doesn't have to be wrong, doesn't have any judgement from me, that's just gay.

Live long and prosper in the gayness.

If you think somebody can 'choose' to be homosexual or trans, then it stands to reason that you had to choose to be straight as well. So you were bisexual to begin with but made a choice?

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
If a man falls in love with a trans-woman, he's not necessarily a homosexual.

I mean, .....Dude.

Yeah, dude. This is obvious stuff.

I ran a search on "can a straight man fall in love with a trans woman," and got this AI overview:

"Yes, a straight man can fall in love with a trans woman, as love and attraction are not limited by gender identity. A straight man's attraction to a trans woman is simply an attraction to a woman, just as his attraction to a cisgender woman would be. The label "straight" refers to the gender of the person someone is attracted to, and if a man identifies as straight, his attraction to a woman, regardless of whether she is cisgender or transgender, aligns with his orientation."

Also got links like this one:

https://news.ucr.edu/articles/...on-transgender-women

The world is a big, wide place, my friend, and all sorts of folks inhabit it.

It is obvious stuff. It's obvious to myself and every other reasonable person that a man loving a man is homosexual. It doesn't matter who's pretending to be what, it doesn't matter what someone feels, wants, dreams about or really, really, really needs, if the chromosomes don't fit they don't fit.

If the guy wants to live another guy, that's gay. Doesn't have to be wrong, doesn't have any judgement from me, that's just gay.

Live long and prosper in the gayness.

Did you even read the link to that medical study I cited? Got any evidence that your viewpoint is correct?

It's laughable that you say you're not making a judgment.

This obvious that anyone who cares or wants to make this distinction has nothing better to do.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
If a man falls in love with a trans-woman, he's not necessarily a homosexual.

I mean, .....Dude.

Yeah, dude. This is obvious stuff.

I ran a search on "can a straight man fall in love with a trans woman," and got this AI overview:

"Yes, a straight man can fall in love with a trans woman, as love and attraction are not limited by gender identity. A straight man's attraction to a trans woman is simply an attraction to a woman, just as his attraction to a cisgender woman would be. The label "straight" refers to the gender of the person someone is attracted to, and if a man identifies as straight, his attraction to a woman, regardless of whether she is cisgender or transgender, aligns with his orientation."

Also got links like this one:

https://news.ucr.edu/articles/...on-transgender-women

The world is a big, wide place, my friend, and all sorts of folks inhabit it.

It is obvious stuff. It's obvious to myself and every other reasonable person that a man loving a man is homosexual. It doesn't matter who's pretending to be what, it doesn't matter what someone feels, wants, dreams about or really, really, really needs, if the chromosomes don't fit they don't fit.

If the guy wants to live another guy, that's gay. Doesn't have to be wrong, doesn't have any judgement from me, that's just gay.

Live long and prosper in the gayness.

Did you even read the link to that medical study I cited? Got any evidence that your viewpoint is correct?

It's laughable that you say you're not making a judgment.

A zebra is a zebra. A gay man is a gay man.
I'm not judging.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
This obvious that anyone who cares or wants to make this distinction has nothing better to do.

So you don't think a zebra is a zebra.
OK!
Not judging you either.

A zebra is not a human, whose brains are more complex and varied than an animal that goes by instinct.

Bad analogy.

What I can’t believe is that there are supposedly sane people here trying to make the case that a guy and his guy partner who pretends to be a woman are just normal folks. They are loony tunes living a loony tunes life and in the end one went completely off the deep end.

Only when we quit condoning mental illnesses and allowing fantasy to be recognized and reality…will the world ever right itself.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
What I can’t believe is that there are supposedly sane people here trying to make the case that a guy and his guy partner who pretends to be a woman are just normal folks. They are loony tunes living a loony tunes life and in the end one went completely off the deep end.

Only when we quit condoning mental illnesses and allowing fantasy to be recognized and reality…will the world ever right itself.

I'm not sure i read R's post to be "normal", rather just not gay. i.e, a person can actually change their gender and as a result be a natural female and the attraction of men which is obviously impossible, just as impossible for a zebra to decide to not be a zebra.

You know all the facts that you deny R. Chromosomes and hormones, glands and appendages. If a person could truly change to be a different gender it certainly shouldn't take artificial measures like drastic surgery and drugs to do so, and even if the drastic measures were effective, why when the drugs are stopped does the person revert back to their natural self?

And its just nutty, plain old marbles rolling around loose in the head nutty to believe that a heterosexual man could ever be attracted or turned on by another dude. We all know how it is, we guys see a woman, maybe talk to her or just pass by or just observe her from afar. If there's attraction we can feel it in our blood, our heart, our bones, it mesmerizes our brain. I have certainly been caught up by a woman to the point of walking face first into walls, shutting doors on my fingers and forgetting where I was or what I was supposed to be doing. I have felt my blood boil on many occasions and I consider myself a pretty calm and cool dude.

Never in almost 57 years has a male boiled my blood.

OK, so what's the next really ridiculous topic I can blather on about?

Scott, I never said a man can become a natural female--for all the reasons you mention.

But there are people who believe they were born the wrong sex and wish to use modern medicine to change that; not genetically, but how they look and act and perceive themselves. Some of them look female too, and there are straight men who fall for them.

Read that article I cited, which provides reasons why some men go for trans women.