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Originally posted by LHeym500:
There are visas available for those trafficked here in for sex slavery and domestic servitude.

I would apply those visa laws and not send those folks back.

They cannot help they were human trafficked here for a 21st century form of slavery.

Otherwise, I generally agree pass a law w a date certain you are deported when caught entering at the border. I guess the person could claim citizenship, and still require an administrative hearing.

The problem is unless you a dress Mexico as a host nation, they will just come right back.

I would secure the border with force — military force. It can be done.

I would break Mexico with trade sanctions and deny Mexico any legal migration, or travel until they work w us to stop this.

But I could roll with this option as well.

That would be an unpopular option.

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Originally posted by Bivoj:
Mexico could stop migration in their southern border but they simply refuse
There is ways to stop it besides wall as Lane said, don’t let Mexicans in and other idea is to stop money transfers to Mexico as that would get their attention
Military on border as well, good training
For anyone normal, this invasion cannot be sustained

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Bivoj:
Mexico could stop migration in their southern border but they simply refuse
There is ways to stop it besides wall as Lane said, don’t let Mexicans in and other idea is to stop money transfers to Mexico as that would get their attention
Military on border as well, good training
For anyone normal, this invasion cannot be sustained

So Mexico can do what we cannot?

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Originally posted by Bivoj:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Bivoj:
Mexico could stop migration in their southern border but they simply refuse
There is ways to stop it besides wall as Lane said, don’t let Mexicans in and other idea is to stop money transfers to Mexico as that would get their attention
Military on border as well, good training
For anyone normal, this invasion cannot be sustained

So Mexico can do what we cannot?

They can try
And this invasion could’ve been prevented if politicians wanted to but it has become a political football of both parties and that is very unfortunate

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Originally posted by theback40:
Pull all of Mexico's aid, see if they find a way then.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Bivoj:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Bivoj:
Mexico could stop migration in their southern border but they simply refuse
There is ways to stop it besides wall as Lane said, don’t let Mexicans in and other idea is to stop money transfers to Mexico as that would get their attention
Military on border as well, good training
For anyone normal, this invasion cannot be sustained

So Mexico can do what we cannot?

They can try
And this invasion could’ve been prevented if politicians wanted to but it has become a political football of both parties and that is very unfortunate

Why is it Mexico's responsibility when we won't take even the simplest steps to remove the incentive for the people to come and simply enforce existing Law that makes it a crime to employ undocumented workers?

How many CEOs at corporations like Perdue and Tyson and ConAgra would we have to send to prison before the jobs simply dried up?

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by theback40:
Pull all of Mexico's aid, see if they find a way then.

Anything to avoid enforcing the Law, huh?

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Originally posted by TomP:
Fence didn't do Israelis much good today...

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Originally posted by wymple:
Is there some part of the word "limit" that you don't get? "Limit" is not a suggestion.

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Originally posted by wymple:
The truth is that Americans in many ways, from agriculture to construction and the service industries rely heavily on foreign labor. The only really effective cure would be to stop as much of that as possible by jailing those who hire them, and put out enough visas to to satisfy the justifiable economic need for them. It's not a Mexican problem, it's an American problem just like the drug trade. This country is as addicted to cheap , willing laborers as the country is to drugs.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by wymple:
The truth is that Americans in many ways, from agriculture to construction and the service industries rely heavily on foreign labor. The only really effective cure would be to stop as much of that as possible by jailing those who hire them, and put out enough visas to to satisfy the justifiable economic need for them. It's not a Mexican problem, it's an American problem just like the drug trade. This country is as addicted to cheap , willing laborers as the country is to drugs.

This, of course, is the solution that everyone involved recognizes would immediately reduce the immigration problem. No jobs, no immigrants. But, it means that instead of arresting and deporting immigrants, law enforcement would have to arrest the republicans who own the businesses that employ the immigrants. Not going to happen.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Texas is roughly 51/49% in terms of voters - I went on about this, at length, attempting to educate a fellow poster on the realities of this situation - With the Majority of Texans living in the Texas Triangle, and most highly populated counties (Harris, Bexar, Travis, Dallas, and Tarrant) being solidly BLUE, this "assumption" would be false -

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by wymple:
The truth is that Americans in many ways, from agriculture to construction and the service industries rely heavily on foreign labor. The only really effective cure would be to stop as much of that as possible by jailing those who hire them, and put out enough visas to to satisfy the justifiable economic need for them. It's not a Mexican problem, it's an American problem just like the drug trade. This country is as addicted to cheap , willing laborers as the country is to drugs.

This, of course, is the solution that everyone involved recognizes would immediately reduce the immigration problem. No jobs, no immigrants. But, it means that instead of arresting and deporting immigrants, law enforcement would have to arrest the republicans who own the businesses that employ the immigrants. Not going to happen.

So only Republican businesses hire illegals. Care to provide proof/ data?

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Which is why there should be a cheap easy, work visa problem - we can't deport 10 or 10s of million of people, just can't make the logistics work - but if they all have TIN, they can work legally - yep, prices will rise from an artificial low - and suddenly we have legal workers - don't even bother with "it can't be done" as it would require access to an online portal - i mean, it's not like we are asking every person to physically go in for a shot or 4 - and we did a decent job at that