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Posts: 71738 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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mess in a country with different outcome when breaking laws and get the rewards desserved.
 
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First, they were Chinese citizens. Second, if you don't want to be executed, don't smuggle drugs in China. These are lessons available to everyone. If you don't want to overdose, don't take drugs. If you want to wreck your car, don't drive drunk. If you don't want to get bombed, don't mess with Isreal. Regards, Bill.
 
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Reminds me of all the hoopla created in Australia a few years ago.

When two Aussis were caught smuggling drugs into Indonesia I think.

The Indonesian have the death penalty, and the Aussies went berserk.

Indonesia told them to FO!

And shot the criminals! clap


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Reminds me of all the hoopla created in Australia a few years ago.

When two Aussis were caught smuggling drugs into Indonesia I think.

The Indonesian have the death penalty, and the Aussies went berserk.

Indonesia told them to FO!

And shot the criminals! clap


many moons ago in the malaysian airplane i was, we were given pamphlets about drugs and death penalty then it was repeated by the crew in the PA. never stop idiots to try and get reward, still do not get why someone will complaint about it. play stupid game get the reward you desserve.
 
Posts: 3323 | Location: Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada. | Registered: 21 May 2006Reply With Quote
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If we did that here, we could win the "War on Drugs".
 
Posts: 10982 | Location: Houston, Texas | Registered: 26 December 2005Reply With Quote
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If we did that here, we could win the "War on Drugs".


well some of your states still have death penalty ...
 
Posts: 3323 | Location: Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada. | Registered: 21 May 2006Reply With Quote
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If we did that here, we could win the "War on Drugs".


well some of your states still have death penalty ...


Tejanos were said to have had life-in-prison for cannabis possession back in the 60s, things may have changed there by now.


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Posts: 15429 | Location: Moreno Valley CA USA | Registered: 20 November 2000Reply With Quote
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If we did that here, we could win the "War on Drugs".


If we shot drunk drivers or shot anybody in possession of a 12 pack of beer, we could eliminate drunk driving.

Killing people for substance abuse is stupid and archaic. It makes zero sense.



 
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Draconian policies are not desired by the electorate.

Face it, if we could execute folks over drug dealing, there would be a lot of folks set up and executed for offending the wrong person.

I agree that if we shot drug dealers summarily we would soon have drug abuse nearing 0. But even as anti drug as I am, I don't think that is worth the abuse that would happen with that policy.
 
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Draconian policies are not desired by the electorate.

Face it, if we could execute folks over drug dealing, there would be a lot of folks set up and executed for offending the wrong person.

I agree that if we shot drug dealers summarily we would soon have drug abuse nearing 0. But even as anti drug as I am, I don't think that is worth the abuse that would happen with that policy.


Well, in China, they shoot drug dealers summarily. Is drug use there near zero?

Apparently not.

People are going to drink alcohol and take drugs. It's the human condition for many people. Legalize it, tax it, control it to the extent possible. Look at the war on drugs in the United States that has been going on for 60 or so years now.

How is that going? God knows how much money we spend on law enforcement, incarceration, etc. It's stupid.



 
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In china they use "execution vans" - except they used to be called murder RVs - the propaganda says it's lethal injection - the rumors are the organs are harvested

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_van


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If we did that here, we could win the "War on Drugs".


If we shot drunk drivers or shot anybody in possession of a 12 pack of beer, we could eliminate drunk driving.

Killing people for substance abuse is stupid and archaic. It makes zero sense.


Trafficking & substance abuse are 2 different things to me. Some sympathy for abusers, zero for trafficking. If you're doing one to support the other you're still trafficking.
 
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Well, in China, they shoot drug dealers summarily. Is drug use there near zero?

Apparently not.


How bad is the problem in China compared to here?
 
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If we did that here, we could win the "War on Drugs".


If we shot drunk drivers or shot anybody in possession of a 12 pack of beer, we could eliminate drunk driving.

Killing people for substance abuse is stupid and archaic. It makes zero sense.


Trafficking & substance abuse are 2 different things to me. Some sympathy for abusers, zero for trafficking. If you're doing one to support the other you're still trafficking.


two dude where caught in cali a couple years ago, driving a box truck / large cargo van with SEVERAL 55gal drums of liquid fentanyl - they were RELEASED without bail, but promised to show up ... guess what the result was?


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Well, in China, they shoot drug dealers summarily. Is drug use there near zero?

Apparently not.


How bad is the problem in China compared to here?


obviously no repeat offenders, close enough


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Not what they do in Canada!


This is the same Government in Canada that allows the Chinese to have there own undercover police stations in select major citys to spy on there own . Slimy Liberal-Democrats in Canada love the Commie Chinese Government .
 
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Not what they do in Canada!


This is the same Government in Canada that allows the Chinese to have there own undercover police stations in select major citys to spy on there own . Slimy Liberal-Democrats in Canada love the Commie Chinese Government .


Proof? Outrageous, if true.
 
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In china they use "execution vans" - except they used to be called murder RVs - the propaganda says it's lethal injection - the rumors are the organs are harvested

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_van


I thought that they had a prison for that purpose. They mark their papers with a red X.


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Reminds me of all the hoopla created in Australia a few years ago.

When two Aussis were caught smuggling drugs into Indonesia I think.

The Indonesian have the death penalty, and the Aussies went berserk.

Indonesia told them to FO!

And shot the criminals! clap


many moons ago in the malaysian airplane i was, we were given pamphlets about drugs and death penalty then it was repeated by the crew in the PA. never stop idiots to try and get reward, still do not get why someone will complaint about it. play stupid game get the reward you desserve.


How's that working for Duterte? Jeff Cooper once opined that confiscated drugs should be poisoned/adulterated and put back onto the street.


Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
 
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How's that working for Duterte? Jeff Cooper once opined that confiscated drugs should be poisoned/adulterated and put back onto the street.


Might alleviate the problem if everyone is afraid of it. The law isn't scaring anybody.
 
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Reminds me of all the hoopla created in Australia a few years ago.

When two Aussis were caught smuggling drugs into Indonesia I think.

The Indonesian have the death penalty, and the Aussies went berserk.

Indonesia told them to FO!

And shot the criminals! clap


many moons ago in the malaysian airplane i was, we were given pamphlets about drugs and death penalty then it was repeated by the crew in the PA. never stop idiots to try and get reward, still do not get why someone will complaint about it. play stupid game get the reward you desserve.


How's that working for Duterte? Jeff Cooper once opined that confiscated drugs should be poisoned/adulterated and put back onto the street.


well our fentanyl that flooded the streets of u s a is really strong even in low quantity ...

for the philippines leader what i can say ICC has some strong power that trump and trumpets should be worried ... milosevic was given/sold to them despite the strong support of the population same for duterte and it can happen to putin as well if russia has enough like in usa but it is just the beginning of the cycle over there ...
 
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Not what they do in Canada!


This is the same Government in Canada that allows the Chinese to have there own undercover police stations in select major citys to spy on there own . Slimy Liberal-Democrats in Canada love the Commie Chinese Government .


Proof? Outrageous, if true.


They might have similar here.


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Not what they do in Canada!


This is the same Government in Canada that allows the Chinese to have there own undercover police stations in select major citys to spy on there own . Slimy Liberal-Democrats in Canada love the Commie Chinese Government .


Proof? Outrageous, if true.

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Not what they do in Canada!


This is the same Government in Canada that allows the Chinese to have there own undercover police stations in select major citys to spy on there own . Slimy Liberal-Democrats in Canada love the Commie Chinese Government .


Proof? Outrageous, if true.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwfRtMj3qUc
 
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On the one hand our government blames China for our drug problem then bitches when China does something about it. Ah those Liberals.


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Not what they do in Canada!


This is the same Government in Canada that allows the Chinese to have there own undercover police stations in select major citys to spy on there own . Slimy Liberal-Democrats in Canada love the Commie Chinese Government .


Proof? Outrageous, if true.


Wake up!

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Aother fantastic claim, Saeed.

I don't normally do videos, but did listen to a few minutes of that one sjr posted. Another rightwing sensationalist propaganda show. If that's where you get your news and facts...well, I shake my head.

Show us something in print from a legitimate source.
 
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What have we come to as US citizens that here we have folks bring sympathetic and lamenting a government having the power to summarily execute people. A communist government at that.

In the last calendar year I have got 3, 10-15 year sentences on drug dealing. Most the max the statute lets of have is 10.

I have long argued scaling the level of trafficking degree to the amount of drugs. I do not have the virus. The more poison you sell, the higher the felony. Nope.
 
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ICC has some strong power that trump and trumpets should be worried


The U.S. is not part of the ICC, along with China, India, Israel and Russia.

Those countries produce so many war criminals that the ICC would be overwhelmed. Membership is limited to nations that respect basic international law and order.
 
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