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The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) announced a further wave of contract terminations late Saturday, noting that they also identified thousands of cases where more than $300 million in loans were granted to children.


The announcements come as the Elon Musk-led agency continues to root out waste, fraud and corruption in the federal government.

DOGE said it identified that the Small Business Administration (SBA) granted nearly 5,600 loans for $312 million to borrowers whose only listed owner was 11 years old or younger at the time of the loan. The loans were issued in 2020 and 2021 – while the world struggled with the COVID-19 pandemic – and it is unclear what they were used for.

"While it is possible to have business arrangements where this is legal, that is highly unlikely for these 5,593 loans, as they all also used an SSN with the incorrect name," the agency wrote.

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Lots of 11 year old entrepreneurs, ya think?

Another democrat slush fund found.......

No wonder they hate Elon!


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So you admit DOGE is doling the work and not just making recommendations. Tell me statutory authority this new bureaucracy operates from. You know what is its Enabling Statute?

Not for nothing, could you please provide your source and not just the quote?

So DOGE'a nineteen-year-old employees are terminating the loans made to fellow children?

This will turn out like the 140-year-olds drawing Social Security, tech-toddlers who can't read what they don't understand.

Still no fraud found, just stuff Congress authorized that MAGAts don't like.

Nobody point out to this idiot, or the one running/not running DOGE, that the Small Business Administration doesn't make loans.

The SBA doesn't directly approve loans, but it guarantees a portion of loans made by lenders, making it easier for small businesses to secure funding. Lenders, not the SBA, make the final decision on loan approval, and the SBA's role is to reduce risk for lenders.


https://www.usbank.com/busines...0funds%20they%20need.

https://www.americanexpress.co...he%20loan%20payments.

https://www.sba.gov/funding-programs/loans

And a 10 year old idiot is the White House!

Being schooled by a bankrupt South African immigrant!

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
So you admit DOGE is doling the work and not just making recommendations. Tell me statutory authority this new bureaucracy operates from. You know what is its Enabling Statute?

Not for nothing, could you please provide your source and not just the quote?

DOGE is finding the idiocy, they don't have the authority to do anything about it. You know that....do you just like being obtuse?

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

Still no fraud found, just stuff Congress authorized that MAGAts don't like.

Yeah.....idiot democrats just love throwing tax dollars away....or to their cronies....

Calling bullshit.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
So you admit DOGE is doling the work and not just making recommendations. Tell me statutory authority this new bureaucracy operates from. You know what is its Enabling Statute?

Not for nothing, could you please provide your source and not just the quote?

DOGE is finding the idiocy, they don't have the authority to do anything about it. You know that....do you just like being obtuse?

That is not what your source waits, and would not be the first time an administrative agency acting without authority.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

Still no fraud found, just stuff Congress authorized that MAGAts don't like.

Yeah.....idiot democrats just love throwing tax dollars away....or to their cronies....

You DO know that the PPP was set up by the Trump Administration, and ended within 2 months of Biden taking office, don't you?

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
So you admit DOGE is doling the work and not just making recommendations. Tell me statutory authority this new bureaucracy operates from. You know what is its Enabling Statute?

Not for nothing, could you please provide your source and not just the quote?

DOGE is finding the idiocy, they don't have the authority to do anything about it. You know that....do you just like being obtuse?

That is not what your source waits, and would not be the first time an administrative agency acting without authority.

Speak English junior!

There have been many alphabet agencies making "law" through administrative rules.....it was wrong then as it would be wrong now! You never seemed to have a problem with it until now....and now it isn't happening.....


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Originally posted by JTEX:

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The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) announced a further wave of contract terminations late Saturday, noting that they also identified thousands of cases where more than $300 million in loans were granted to children.


The announcements come as the Elon Musk-led agency continues to root out waste, fraud and corruption in the federal government.

DOGE said it identified that the Small Business Administration (SBA) granted nearly 5,600 loans for $312 million to borrowers whose only listed owner was 11 years old or younger at the time of the loan. The loans were issued in 2020 and 2021 – while the world struggled with the COVID-19 pandemic – and it is unclear what they were used for.

"While it is possible to have business arrangements where this is legal, that is highly unlikely for these 5,593 loans, as they all also used an SSN with the incorrect name," the agency wrote.

Sent from my iPhone

Lots of 11 year old entrepreneurs, ya think?

Another democrat slush fund found.......

No wonder they hate Elon!


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Which Democrat do you think was President in 2020, dumbass?

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
So you admit DOGE is doling the work and not just making recommendations. Tell me statutory authority this new bureaucracy operates from. You know what is its Enabling Statute?

Not for nothing, could you please provide your source and not just the quote?

DOGE is finding the idiocy, they don't have the authority to do anything about it. You know that....do you just like being obtuse?

well many have no problem with that and use the excuse of congree if it fits their agenda to not support ally/allies

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There have been many alphabet agencies making "law" through administrative rules.....it was wrong then as it would be wrong now!

Administrative regulations are law if enacted under authority of an enabling statute passed by Congress.

Congress would get even less done than it does if it had to pass every detail under the legislation.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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There have been many alphabet agencies making "law" through administrative rules.....it was wrong then as it would be wrong now!

Administrative regulations are law if enacted under authority of an enabling statute passed by Congress.

Congress would get even less done than it does if it had to pass every detail under the legislation.

1 water is wet
2 good

Well done captain oblivious

Hey, Stupid, have you caught on that if this happened it happened under Trump?

Hey JTEX, you sure are quiet for a loud-mouthed Texan.

We know you've read that what you are whining about, if it happened at all, happened when Trump was in charge.

You got the balls to say he was facilitating fraud to give hundreds of millions of dollars to children?

Civil Servants do not answer to Doge.

Now, if the President is willing to allow Mysk to order his Cabinet heads to terminate civil servants in violation of federal law, that is what lawsuits are for.

Not pointing out that this fucking coward ghosted his own thread or anything...

DOGE is working for taxpayers money is just like saying a draft dodging coward is fighting for his country!

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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There have been many alphabet agencies making "law" through administrative rules.....it was wrong then as it would be wrong now!

Administrative regulations are law if enacted under authority of an enabling statute passed by Congress.

Congress would get even less done than it does if it had to pass every detail under the legislation.

1 water is wet
2 good

Well done captain oblivious

It is actually not that obvious.

We used to gang a framework to determine when an Agency making rules, regulations with the force of law, was constitutionally legal. The real issue was when an Agency was acting within its enabling statute when it made a specific regulation. That was Chevron and its lineage. Chevron always required an agency acting and being established by an enabling statute.

We no longer have this analytical framework.

DOGE, by making multi department mandates, appears to be making rules. Under our old framework, the DOGE would have to act pursuant to an enabling statute.

The poorly written destruction of Chevron makes it questionable whether an enabling statute is still required for a department to engage in rule making. Now, to eliminate the necessity for an enabling statute to engage in rule making appears to me to be reading the gun that killed Chevron too far.


When DOGE engages in rule making, it must do so pursuant and within the scope of an enabling statute. DOGS has no enabling statute.

Now, if DOGE engaged in issuing administrative orders that is a slightly different conversation. The distinctions would be important.
DOGE has to be dong either rule making or issuing administrative orders. It looks like thru are doing both at different times to me.