The drunk, senile old woman doesnt comprehend anything.
Trump was guilty of failing to report gifts. Kabob cant get that through his thick head while wearing orange colored glasses.
Trump never said why, that I know of. He either didnt care. Thought someone else was suppose to do it, or just dumb. Could be all three.
Whitehouse staff recorded them to the archives. We know that, because the trump family bought many at the archive auction, when they were put up for sale.
A few items were unaccounted for. Did a trump take them? Could be. Like the cocaine found in the whitehouse hallway, you would think anything could be found out. Apparently not.
This was all over the news a year ago or so. I listened to it on NPR while working in the shop.
But kabob wants him to be guilty of something he hasnt done yet. Keeping gifts given this term, that he hasnt kept. When he does, I will call trump out.
Joe Biden was accused of being the "big guy" and getting a cut from Hunters booty from foreign leaders.
I guess Kabob considered him guilty, as he was accused of it.
I didnt say a word, as there was no direct proof. That is where the big difference is. To me, until there is irrefutable proof, I wont call someone guilty. Kabob will if it suits his rant.

quote:

Originally posted by theback40:
The drunk, senile old woman doesnt comprehend anything.
Trump was guilty of failing to report gifts. Kabob cant get that through his thick head while wearing orange colored glasses.
Trump never said why, that I know of. He either didnt care. Thought someone else was suppose to do it, or just dumb. Could be all three.
Whitehouse staff recorded them to the archives. We know that, because the trump family bought many at the archive auction, when they were put up for sale.
A few items were unaccounted for. Did a trump take them? Could be. Like the cocaine found in the whitehouse hallway, you would think anything could be found out. Apparently not.
This was all over the news a year ago or so. I listened to it on NPR while working in the shop.
But kabob wants him to be guilty of something he hasnt done yet. Keeping gifts given this term, that he hasnt kept. When he does, I will call trump out.
Joe Biden was accused of being the "big guy" and getting a cut from Hunters booty from foreign leaders.
I guess Kabob considered him guilty, as he was accused of it.
I didnt say a word, as there was no direct proof. That is where the big difference is. To me, until there is irrefutable proof, I wont call someone guilty. Kabob will if it suits his rant.

to be fair, i don' think "drink" is kabob's problem -- i can't tell if it's trauma or congenital, but I am certain of deteriorating cerebral function, aggravated by not being able to come to terms that's their in a cult, with high strictures

oh, and reportedly, I'm on her ignore list, but i suspect she gets lonely

There's a good reason I have you two on ignore.

Sometimes I try to reason with you. It always turns out the same, besides being off-topic.

But anyway, any time a liar believes his own BS, it ought to be called out for the sake of others.

Obama didn't keep the gifts and he reported them. Trump kept them and reported some but not all, and wants more.

Meanwhile, this has deteriorated so back on ignore you go.

Ignored post by theback40 posted 31 August 2025 01:36
Ignored post by jeffeosso posted 31 August 2025 01:50

Trump did not report gifts.
There is no proof at this time he kept any. No way to prove what he intends.
But I kabob, declare it to be so, and so it is truth.

See? I defended her from accusations of being a drunk and I get rererere-ignored

https://youtube.com/shorts/fBM...?si=Tb_1aFdZxDzVfyl6

Stage four liar

I get a kick out of Kabob.
He thinks accepting lavish gifts are wrong.
I point out Obo's. Then he thinks he schooled me, because obo didnt keep them. I never said he did, and baited him with obo accepting gifts.
Then he thinks not reporting gifts, was the same as keeping them. And somehow kabob has proof trump kept the un accounted for gifts and intends to keep more. He just wont divulge his proof I guess.
And all this while calling others liars. They could do a SNL skit about him.

Trool - different than a troll because he takes himself seriously, and intends for others to do likewise.

But the effect on a discussion or thread is the same.

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/19...derangement-syndrome

Going back to the OP premise, I think the post quoted above by Steve is very important.

Just today I looked up the meaning of TDS, again, and the article linked by Steve is integral to his premise.

I can't speak for Steve, but I'll try to explain what I think his premise is.

I think he's saying that a decline of Dem registrations means a decline in the popularity of the principles of the Democratic party, and Trumpism is a winning formula.

So, let's look at the winning formula. What is it, in reality, and do you approve?

https://youtu.be/oyqP8z3cphM?si=p4E7SnMqH8uXRInC

Trump's Plans to Destroy US Democracy Maybe Even More Extreme Than Any Of Us Imagined

If you won't view the whole video, then look at this part. If this doesn't stir your interest in what the narrator has to say, Well, nothing will.

At 3:45 (Stephen Wormtongue Miller)

https://youtu.be/oyqP8z3cphM?s...D5H20CBneLFEOw&t=225

dammit kabob I'm on ignore. you are lying about that now!

Your post is spot on description of yourself you know.

Arguing with ME is akin to beating your head against a post.

Arguing? Is that what we're doing?

And all along I thought we were exchanging views on the topic.

Some like to divert and make it personal, which obscures the theme. They can't seem to help themselves, since that's what they do every time, no matter how much one tries to circle back to the OP premise.

It's useless, which is why ignore is the best option. They cry for attention, so arguing with them gives them what they want. Deny them, ignore them.

Somehow, though, Lane, you are different. So far I've found arguing (exchanging views) with you to be interesting at least, and a reality check - affirming yes they are sill out there, influencing.

First thing, your form of radicalization is somehow understandable, although I don't understand why!!! If that makes sense, then think again.

I have a far-right 1st cousin, and we do stuff together like repair things or build things. He's okay until we talk politics or ideology. The more I think about his opinions and worldview the more I realize he's radicalized.

So, in addition to many herein, you Lane, and my far-right cousin, and I have relatives and acquaintances (as distinguished from friends) who are Far-right Christian Nationalists, I can extrapolate the worldviews of most Trumpsters, and try to make distinctions such as those who still hold traditional conservative values.

But, IMO, the self-deemed conservatives who claim to hold traditional values are deceiving themselves or pretending, and are trying to convince others that the are not radicalized to some degree, charlatans. They do that by giving clues. For one, claiming that the Left needs to present more centrist and charismatic candidates to compete.

First, they wouldn't vote for such persons/party anyway. They would choose radicalization every time, and make excuses, rationalizations.

Anyway, my far-Right cousin has been trying for months to get me to read some of the BS he believes is true. So, yesterday he read some of it to me. I don't know the source, but he claimed it defines Marxism and the relationship with the Left. It wasn't Marxism at all but just a list of claims regarding the tactics (means) of the Left. Ironically, they were all examples of what Trumpism has fomented and doing. The author claimed they originated in the early 1900s. I think he made that up too.

How could a constructive argument ensue with people who believe such BS.

So, I researched the question - What is Trumpism? I also researched the question - what is Marxism, but let's not go there.

The answer is overload:

https://www.google.com/search?...gHEA&sclient=gws-wiz

In particular:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Arguing with ME is akin to beating your head against a post.

I had a second thought.

Did you bother to listen to the part in the video linked above where Wormtongue Miller spoke?

I want you to state your views on that in particular.

It's an open-ended question - wide open.

for your convenience, here it is again:

Starting at about 3:46

https://youtu.be/oyqP8z3cphM?s...AqYyc7wJvaci7b&t=227

Here's a video analogous to what I think of these self-deemed Rightists' opinions about what the Left ought to be doing to stay relevant, for the good of the country of course:

https://youtu.be/cVsQLlk-T0s?si=0ICsHDoNUu28vC34

More Cowbell - SNL

Saturday Night Live
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When rock band Blue Oyster Cult records "(Don't Fear) the Reaper" producer Bruce Dickinson (Christopher Walken) insists Gene Frenkle (Will Ferrell) play more cowbell. With Chris Kattan, Chris Parnell, Horatio Sanz and Jimmy Fallon. [Season 25, 2000]

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:


So, I researched the question - What is Trumpism? I also researched the question - what is Marxism?

Re Trumpism - the answer is overload:

https://www.google.com/search?...gHEA&sclient=gws-wiz

In particular:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

Excerpts:

Former national security advisor and close Trump advisor John Bolton disputes that Trumpism exists in any meaningful sense, adding that "[t]he man does not have a philosophy. And people can try and draw lines between the dots of his decisions. They will fail."[28] Writing for the Routledge Handbook of Global Populism (2019), Olivier Jutel notes, "What Donald Trump reveals is that the various iterations of right-wing American populism have less to do with a programmatic social conservatism or libertarian economics than with enjoyment ."

Grievance
Sociologist Michael Kimmel states that Trump's populism is "an emotion. And the emotion is righteous indignation that the government is screwing 'us.'"[48] Kimmel posits that Trump manifests "aggrieved entitlement",[49] a "sense that those benefits to which you believed yourself entitled have been snatched away from you by unseen forces larger and more powerful. You feel yourself to be the heir to a great promise, the American Dream, which has turned into an impossible fantasy ..."

There is a lot more truth within the article, with footnoted sources.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/art...aking-191743559.html

Kellyanne Conway Praises Trump For Taking Over Cultural Institutions: 'It's Super Exciting'
Marco Margaritoff
Sat, August 30, 2025 at 3:17 PM EDT
2 min read

Excerpt:


Fox News contributor Kellyanne Conway is championing President Donald Trump for “taking control” of various institutions and traditions of American life. She cited some of his most controversial decisions Friday — and joyously described them as “ super exciting .”

The former Trump aide was hosting “Hannity” that evening and spoke to conservative podcaster Isabel Brown, who claimed that Cracker Barrel’s failed attempt to rebrand was “part of a much larger, sinister undertow of our culture led by the radical Marxist left .”