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If you don't get my point, I'm not going to try any further. An argument is all you crave, you won't get one from me. I'm proud to be an American...NO MATTER WHO is President. I stood and held my hand over my heart and teared up, every time the National Anthem played before any event, during Clinton, Obama and Biden. I may not agree with their policies, but I was proud to be an American then and I'm proud to be an American now. I see those in here that want America to fail, more than to see Trump's policies to succeed. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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there are lunatics who have stated that they want trump to fail, even if it affects america .. Hey, Rolly, we see you -- when i review MY personal budget, one of the first things is to look at expenditures and turn off the non-CRITICAL .. not "oh, it feels good"... is it CRITICAL? is it REQUIRED to live? cut back and try .. then add back... the official "pay and chase" method is fricking stupid... something AOC would think would be GREAT ... stop being stupid is a good motto opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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if your success of your policies means letting down your allies or wannebe ones well of course you have a lot of the world that will want you to not succeed that is a given ... being a nationalist proud of your country doesnt mean you have to accept without a word ... as i wrote in the past you will be responsible of the actions of your government in the good and in the bad ... just a question for you steve: when you will have no more eggs should we charge over 25% because we can as your president will do to us very soon? | |||
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Clinton, Obama, and Biden didn't drag our country's good name, history, and traditions through the mud--like we see now under Trump. I would not want to be an American abroad right now. We were thinking of a visit to Japan in the fall, but probably by then Trump will be bullying that country. | |||
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1: your hero list are warmongers - even slick willie bombed the chinese embassy -- you are an IDIOT, rolly -- oh, i know you have me on ignore, as your elistist self can't stand being challenged by a peer -- poor little emotive thing 2: japan does not CARE who's in power in the US . oh, wait, it's your first trip? I've been then more than a dozen times - they just don't care-- they KNOW you are gaijen -- you are a rude foreigner - you can't help it 3: would you cry if, when your short duration public service in AK, you were asked to list 5 things you did last week? I care ALMOST as much about your opinion on politics as i do about schegma on some homeless dude in LA ... well, perhaps less, as the homeless dude might start a fire .. you opinion won't even stir an emotion opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Well if you don't feel like answering, that's fine. It was a chance for you to convince me. Because here's what I think. ww1 You entered the war when your shipping was at threat and Germany was attempting an alliance with Mexico. ww2 If you wanted the UK to thank you. They didn't need to enter the war either. Hitler had expressed his desire to stay out of war with The British as he feared them and what they could do. But they stepped up and overall suffered the brunt of his rage. Alongside France. The rest of the commonwealth? We were there in exactly the same capacity as you guys. In fact our onus was technically less in many ways, as we were never attacked at that point. Poland? None of us freed them in reality. They suffered on for decades. And remember Japan attacked you and Germany and Italy declared war on you as well. Korea I dont understand that one as well, But seemingly it was a contest for control between yourselves and Russia, who had the nation divided between you both. Vietnam Again it's widely known to be the second asian theatre Proxy war between yourselves and USSR. But like Korea, most of us helped you when asked too. Afganistan. Who asked you to be there? Who asked us to be there? But..... The reason I disliked your original premise, is that you were not alone, and neither were any of the rest of us. It took a team and everyone stepped up according too their abilities. IM eternally grateful that the world we all live in is one made by those generations from 10s of thousands of km apart, worked together and sacrificed immeasurably to defeat those forces of ill intent. And that's why for the most part, we support you guys too this day. | |||
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Nah... never https://www.cnn.com/2015/01/23...relations/index.html https://www.politico.eu/articl...hima-foreign-policy/ https://time.com/3729174/netan...a-iran-speech-fight/ Israel, our most loyal ally and only Democracy in the ME. In favor of Iran. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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And that is also why we (despite our Prseident's often horribly stated comments) are also committed to helping keep our allies free as well. If Russia bombs Poland, we will be there. If France suffers a terrorist dirty bomb, we will be there to do whatever France needs help with. Ukraine, we have been essentially doing what Churchill did in WWII. Mortgaging our future but in this case to help someone else. We just are not willing to keep doing it indefinitely. The UK went from one of the top economies of the world prior to WWII to what, #3 in Europe because of the costs and effort of WWII. | |||
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There's a lot there to argue Doc, But that's part of why my response was brief. Because it's a shit argument all round. My grandfather fought in battles alongside elements of the American and Canadian armys In Italy , and the Aussies, southafricans, Indians and Nepalise in Africa. As part of the British 8th. Just as equally as I dont think thanks is required, I dont think any of us should be pulling apart others actions either. | |||
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Chimpy, Bush 2, said "you are either with us, or against us" When he illegally invaded Iraq!  | |||
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I agree the US invasion of Iraq was illegal under international law (such as it is). It was also very, very stupid. But I bet the brilliant conservative members of this forum all supported that invasion at the time. They got suckered then by Bush, and now by Trump. | |||
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This place was page after page of freedom fries and french white flag jokes when Bush and his helper Blair were drumming up support for Iraq 2. | |||
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I think the final payment for WW2 lend lease was made by the UK to the US 20 years ago, along with a statement of thanks from the then prime minister. Lend lease was also made to the USSR, which wasn’t fully repaid, the outstanding debt to the US being written off during the Cold War era. | |||
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Yes the UK did. Now what about the rest of the countries. Also recall it was the industrialized might of the United States that provided the “arsenal of democracy” that made the difference. Even the commonwealth countries used a fair bit of American equipment. The United States didn’t win it alone by any means, but it was Americas industrial might that turned the tide. | |||
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It was a true freak show. Hans Blix, the Swedish UN chief of arms inspections, stated repeatedly that Iraq had never ever halted or hindered a single action in the search for WMD's. Colin Powell had some fake anthrax in a vial, snzAR political forum was screamin their lungs out at the french "cheese eating surrender monkeys" who advised restraint. The french, who at that time were fighting side by side with US troops in Afghanistan. It's a bloody disgrace. Write hard and clear about what hurts -E. Hemingway | |||
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Hmmm Who was your family siding with during WW2? Be honest now. Who did they profit from? | |||
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Having just watched Trump and Vance grandstanding for the US tv cameras all I can say is that was embarrassing. You are gambling with WW3 - pathetic. How far the US has fallen. | |||
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Yeah Im not sure how it came across too US members, But for me it was pathetic. Here they are berating him and at same time asking him to thank them. | |||
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You seem to have an unhealthy obsession about me personally. Feel free to discuss me, personally, in a DM chat. Do not ask me for dick picks though, you're not getting any. Write hard and clear about what hurts -E. Hemingway | |||
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What happened? Write hard and clear about what hurts -E. Hemingway | |||
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Here a bit of it. Its really hard to watch. https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/.../1895539062452203958 | |||
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So you don’t want to be forthcoming about who your family backed during the war and who they profited from. Tells us all we need to know. Sad that this still exists in today society. Bet you have a special salute and everything. | |||
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I will disagree that the US is gambling with WW 3 RE: Thw Russians. You have seen their ground combat capabilities over the last 3 years against the Ukrainians. They did t fair well. Their wait Dorce and Navy is a shambles and I suspect that their Strategic Ricket Forces are in equally sad shape. If there is any rock of a global conflict it will be started by the West Taiwanese. The island of Taiwan is a sovereign nation and if they are invaded will will become involved. Do they possess ICBM’s? Yes. IIRC about 2 of our Ohio Class SSBN’s are the equal of their entire Missile force. | |||
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Wtf. One grown man and two little children. I guess that the idea was that Zelensky was there to bow to authority. It didn't happen. Thankfully - while the US military support was absolutely cruical in the early stages of the war (javelins, cluster grenades, HIMARS) - it is less so today. Contact line fighting is a drone thing today, and the long range stuff are the Ukrainians developing themselves. Add to that regular grunt stuff such as IFV's that Europe can and will provide. They will wear the russians out. Meanwhile, these two fuckwits will continue to suck russian dick, no question about it. This was a shameful day for the US. Write hard and clear about what hurts -E. Hemingway | |||
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It’s sad how little you know about modern war fighting, especially in the Ukraine. You also seem to have a fascination with dick sucking. Not saying that you would, but I bet you’d hold o w in your mouth till it got soft. But you do you Swedish boo. W don’t kink shame here. | |||
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Are you feeling alright? Write hard and clear about what hurts -E. Hemingway | |||
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It’s always interesting to see what is emphasized and deemphasized in education. I know (from hunting with French PH’s) that the view of frenchmen about the role of the resistance and why France fell so quickly is quite differently nuanced than what we got taught. I find professor Felton’s commentary on WWII quite interesting as it’s a take on events that I know from a different angle.
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the french resistance is so complex and cannot be related to only talking about the white flag ... glad someone enlighten you a little ... | |||
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yeah, but the winners write the histories opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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