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Actually I will! because some of our reasons for purchase will genuinely interest you in a non confrontational way. | |||
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"Not all ignoring is weaponized: The ignore or block function is also a necessary tool for individuals to manage online harassment, cyberbullying, or unwanted interactions." From your link, Shanks. Except possibly in the case of group boycotts, ignoring someone on an Internet forum is a defensive tool, not an offensive weapon. If you're mainly concerned about the ignored person's feelings (as that AI seems to be), you might view it differently. | |||
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Hey Roland, Because this seems to have run its course, Ill refrain from giving my opinion on that so as not to antagonise. | |||
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Mere disagreement doesn't antagonize me, Shanks. The first two sentences are from your AI link. The last two are my own opinions. Which part do you find disagreeable? If you've quit the thread, well...have a good day! Hope you heal soon. | |||
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Well, I haven't quit the thread discussion. I was called immoral, stupid, narcissistic, and a lot more over the issue of putting someone on ignore then enhancing the intended effect by posting the ignored message. And not just by Shanks. He mostly went along with anyone who would agree with him. I was a bit shocked when Shanks posted that link to a Google search because I immediately saw that it made my point, and didn't make his. It just showed me that he didn't know what he, nor the others, were talking about or accusing. So, the truth is that Ignore on a social internet forum can be weaponized, but to really be effective it takes a group. An individual is limited, especially when those put on ignore are immune to shaming because they have none. But there's more to it. I changed the search question to: How is name calling, demeaning taunts, and gaslighting on an internet forum a Psychological weapon Answer: AI Overview Online name-calling, demeaning taunts, and gaslighting on internet forums can be considered psychological weapons because they can significantly undermine an individual's emotional and mental well-being, eroding their self-esteem and sense of reality. Here's how these behaviors function as psychological weapons: 1. Name-calling and demeaning taunts Target self-esteem: These tactics directly attack a person's worth and identity, aiming to make them feel small, inferior, or humiliated. Evoke negative emotions: Name-calling and taunts can trigger feelings of anger, sadness, fear, and frustration, making it difficult for the victim to think clearly and respond effectively. Create a hostile environment: A barrage of negative comments can make online spaces feel unsafe and unwelcoming, leading victims to withdraw or hesitate to participate, according to Key Healthcare. Social isolation: Being the target of such attacks can lead to feelings of isolation and loneliness, further amplifying the negative impact on mental health. 2. Gaslighting Undermine perception of reality: Gaslighting involves manipulating information and denying events to make the victim doubt their own memory, sanity, and sense of reality. Sow confusion and self-doubt: The manipulator consistently refutes or minimizes the victim's experiences, leading them to question their own judgment and perceptions. Shift blame and responsibility: Gaslighters may accuse the victim of causing problems or overreacting, forcing them to feel guilty and ashamed. Gain power and control: By distorting reality and eroding self-confidence, the gaslighter gains power and control over the victim, making it easier to exploit them. Overall impact: Erosion of trust and security: These tactics can make victims distrust their own perceptions, the intentions of others, and their sense of safety in online interactions. Mental health consequences: Victims of these behaviors may experience increased anxiety, depression, low self-esteem, sleep disturbances, and even suicidal thoughts. Disruption to daily life: The emotional and psychological distress resulting from these online attacks can disrupt victims' ability to concentrate, engage in social activities, and perform well in school or work. In essence, these online behaviors leverage psychological vulnerabilities to inflict emotional and mental harm, potentially leaving lasting consequences on the victim's well-being. ============================================================== It should be very clear that some participants herein engage, as SOP, in the psychological weaponization described above. We have seen a lot of it in this thread. That's what they do constantly. In a way this whole ARPF is a pit for it. But IMO, it's relatively clean compared to other forums. Individually, one on one, most people are hard shelled enough to fight back somehow. On the trool's terms and level is not effective. Like the hog, they like it and both get dirty. I described how I fight back, and give a dose of their own medicine by enhancing Ignore. One distinction, for example, is the latest post by ledvm, harping about an old conspiracy theory that won't go away. We ganged up on him. That's different compared to using the Ignore feature. And the fact that this thread diverted to delving into the psychology of Ignore is part of it. I went with it because it pissed me off for starters, and because I saw an opportunity. Just the fact that some herein chose to make a deal out of it, when the theme was PBS, and make it personal towards me, and ganged up, is a lot closer to psychological weaponizing than my use of the Ignore feature, one on one. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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My goodness that discussion got too you. Who would have thought my simple denial of your interpretation of something I said, would lead to so much. This now is the second time the silliness could have ended amd you go away and can't let it go. Last time the excuse was I rubbed in, I presume some victory you thought I had, Yet when repeatedly asked you could not show me this so called insult. you have a real problem. Right so to clarify. None of the above is, Like so much ME posts, true to the topic. The topic was the weaponisation of the ignore button. Which only 2 members here to my knowledge have ever done. ME being one. let me be very clear. If a group of people decided to use the ignore in the same manor as he does, it would be far worse and definitely a case of bullying and outright ostracism. very childish stuff. Its very telling that we as a group dont, and that just one member currently does. But his way of using it is in my and the AIs view, a form of narcissism. A weapon to assert some control and manipulation.
Quite a few of these describe MEs bahviour. Note the similarities with the part of the conversation around censor and ostracism. My view is the use along with skiting about its use fits the negative connotations. As to the rest, Well yes some members agreed with me. Im not surprised. Why did the use of ignore become a topic? because ME used it in a way that brought it too the front! Trying to blame others for being called out for you own behaviour is more of the symptoms in my view. | |||
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I disagree that ignoring someone is an offensive weapon. Ignoring someone is a defensive tool. Further, it can be a means of maintaining peace on the board, so it doesn't degenerate into a series of pissing matches. The repeatedly-expressed concern for the ignored's feelings and emotional well being is unlikely to trouble the ignorer, who wishes to avoid interactions with the ignored. Ignoring someone is the right of every poster. There are in fact at least four or five posters here who are ignoring, or claim to be ignoring, other posters. | |||
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Is it a well used tool, a defensive tool, when the user repeatedly posts the ignored notification as an interaction. and freely admits they dont actually ignore, but just use it at will? Whats the purpose of that? is it maintaining peace? Is it avoiding interaction? Because this thread alone tends to prove that wrong. | |||
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Careful. Proving him wrong, after defeating all his delaying tactics will get you on his ignore list. Jimmy doesn't like losing opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I don’t disagree with you that ignoring someone (in the sense of not reading their posts or putting a personal block on them) is censorship or problematic. What I view as problematic is announcing that one is ignoring someone and then continually posting screenshots of ignored posts. It is trying to encourage others to ignore another person without saying why. If management doesn’t feel the behavior warrants banning from the site, you are trying to force your norms on others, despite the official source not agreeing with you. I don’t think we disagree that you should not be required to read anything anyone posts. I view the posting of a comment of ignoring a post as being troll like behavior. It’s also a first step to encouraging censorship (no it’s not actual censorship, but it indicates the person doing so would if given the power to do so.)
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Yes! Most of us have spent enough time around the internet to know what these behaviours are. | |||
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I agree with what you say here, except for the last paragraph. I also agree that it makes no sense, and is contradictory, to say, "I'm ignoring you." But "I'm ignoring him" has its justifications. Some people will assume that unanswered claims and accusations must be true. A reminder that the accuser is being ignored by the accused notifies the forum otherwise. But I agree that such announcements can be overused. Mea culpa. From now on, I'll try to settle for only occasional reminders in proper context. | |||
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Shanks, I have a goat story for you. A couple years ago I was in a gunshop. There were two young fellows talking, and I realized they were speaking Afrikaans. I have spent enough time in Africa, and often with SADF boys, I could understand it well enough. I greeted them in my poor Afrikaans, and we got to talking. They had been over to a Catipillar Diesel engine school. They were being tourists before going home. They ended up staying with me a few days with lots of stories told. They were both from farms in Natel. Shauns father, decided he wanted some goats to eat the brush and weeds around the farm, to keep ticks down. Shaun told his father fine, but he wasnt watching them. One night they saw headlights down the road by the barns. His father went to check on things. He caught up, and blocked the road, calling the police. It was a taxi, that 3 black africans knew the driver of from the city, Pietermaritzburg, and they went to the farm. The cops unloaded 7 goats out of the taxi, along with the 4 men. I wish I could have seen a picture! | |||
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Pretty funny when the best part of the thread is goat stories. I actually put myself through my technical training by selling wild goats to an asian restaurant. Id come home on the weekend and first thing id do is go shoot 3 or 4, hang and butcher them, then pack them into 2 Mitsubishi VCR boxes. Those boxes travelled back and forward on our equivalent of the greyhound buses for along time. The driver never asked why or what. But it must have seemed weird. | |||
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there's a joke in there, i tell you -- but did you shoot them with a single shot? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Yes indeed who would have thought your denial would lead to so much. I didn't lead it that way. Others did and you to defeat the OP premise. The deflection is all psycho. It could have ended, and it could have never started. It started with intent. And I'm not going to let it go. I can look back and show insult, but I don't need to do that. Quote: "you have a real problem". yea, my "problem" is you claim I weaponize the Ignore feature. Me, all by myself, weaponize features in the forum, against two and a half participants who are immune to shaming, according to you. And you claim I'm doing it with intent of psychological harm, and doc Butler says it immoral. You ignore why I put them on ignore. It's because they actually use the forum with intent do cause psychological harm, not with ignore but with more direct means and words. I don't ignore them because I disagree with them, like I do you, but because they gaslight, and demean, off-topic. Yes, you are correct, and AI agrees with you about the group thing. But what I'm doing is not a group thing, it's individual against individual, and one side uses gaslighting as a tool and weapon. My reaction is defensive, and I admit to trying to turn it offensive, by using two simple features of the forum for that purpose. These trools didn't just call me out, insofar as disagreeing on-topic. They deflected, as SOP, to psycho stuff, off-topic. I refuse to engage that way, and instead call it out as toxic. The ignore feature serves several purposes, one obvious, and another to sling it back on them, to turn defensive to offensive. Why would anyone want to remain on defensive with these trools? ===================================================
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@shanks, @TB40 = ya'll will see the humor here -- i don't know if others will see it.. and that just crushes my soul ... ![]() https://youtu.be/OicqTs4T4HA?s...M4sGJaJpBg1Kgw&t=175 opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I have some questions: Let's cut through the BS Shanks is spewing. Does anyone think what jeffee and JTEX does as SOP is not toxic, but instead constructive? Another way to phrase the question is does anyone think jeffee's posts when he gets on a rip are not psycho by intent to do harm and manipulate? With JTEX he's on that rip all the time. And what is the remedy, when attacked psycho with intent to harm, other than just quit participating? ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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And another question, for shanks. Did you shoot any goats with red hair, and was there a deeper meaning when you did? ![]() | |||
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FYI Nothing psycho intended. I just don't want to see your BS on my screen. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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So let me get this straight. Your simple demand is that I agree with your interpretation of my statement and discuss an opinion I don't hold? That my refusal to agree and repeated attempts to explain is not good enough. That its acceptable to superimpose your interpretation into every statement or question and expect me to answer on those grounds? | |||
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That's called a double down! | |||
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This is more physiology at play. Feeling outrage at someone's insults and making out you are a victim while totally ignoring your own. | |||
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At least acknowledge that I have a valid point. You can't do that. And the problem, as evidenced by so many pages in this thread, is the diversion from the point. And it's not just the point re PBS and the censor thing, because of the deflection it has expanded. And I don't call what you did is an attempt to explain. Instead it's about being "consistent" ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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maggie running from accountability but, i am CRUSHED, i mean distraught, that you are "ignoring" me ... oh, the horror .... have you finally stopped attacking Ann for ANYTHING she posts? so, ugly, but functional https://youtu.be/OicqTs4T4HA?s...M4sGJaJpBg1Kgw&t=175 opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Ive shot some with black hair, and nowadays I shoot them with a bald head. But never with red hair. | |||
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There is a trap for him in that post. He has no excuse to read anything you write now. You are on ignore. How long will it last and what reason will be given if it doesn't? | |||
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I am the victim. And others too. If we let it go. I'm talking mostly about jeffee and JTEX's demeaning and gaslighting. The whole purpose of the counter moves, whether Ignore or direct, is to defeat their psycho intent. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Stop the lies and twisting! You were directly quoting me and addressing me! This is the real gaslighting. You make statements then when confronted, find anything to get out of them. | |||
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What a farce. Pretense from the shameless. That's pretty low. And accusing like that is bait. Troll is to kind. Trool is a more correct word to describe such loathsome behavior. Am I the only one who can see the psycho harm intended? After all, what is the point of all this deflection other than psycho with intent to harm?
************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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current record is sub 300 seconds opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I suspect your behaviour has become indefensible. | |||
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a grown man, at least in subjective aging and assigned gender, throwing the victim card? you can't make this up hey, maggie, do words on the internet hurt you? are those words in the room with us? hmm, YOU are the victim? tell ya what, go find where i EVER used words stronger than "scum" because you are cyber stalking and ATTACKING a woman, or hypocrite, well, because you are ... you PROBLEM is you have an over exaggerated (one might say inflamed) sense of self worth -- and you published your "how to manipulate people on the internet" manifesto ... in theory, you are a cis, white, male ... literally there's no victim card ... oh, your bad behavior has been challenged, and you HAVE been insulted .. and have you reviewed YOUR words? do you think it's oleole oxenfree when you are being an internet creep, and get called for it? you "karened" out, calling for a manager (not first time) then used FCC forbidden words to call me then did an appeal to authority THEN did an appeal to community THEN try to gaslight the whole situation oh, wait, why am i typing, maggie has me on ignore ... in 3,2,1 ..... oh, let's hit it one more time ... you egoism is showing with you quoting yourself in your signature as an authority ... BLAHHAH opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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nah bruv, correction from a peer group was what was intended, for you cyber stalking and victimizing ann ... btw, "scum" "hypocrite" and "liar" whens YOU paying my court costs -- but little sweet maggie is offended by being called out for scummy behavior .. poor little thing am i on your ignore list, where you can't POSSIBLY be harmed, or are you a base liar? time will tell i hasn't spoken to a soul about you, verbally ... you should look up "slander" in whatever dictionary you use ... apparently WORDS MATTER ... opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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to anyone adult .. so, that's a stretch opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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What you have written is pretty much proving my statement above. | |||
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Shanks Maggie thinks being consistent is a character flaw opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Ignored post by jeffeosso posted 26 July 2025 04:46 Ignored post by jeffeosso posted 26 July 2025 04:52 Ignored post by jeffeosso posted 26 July 2025 04:56 Ignored post by jeffeosso posted 26 July 2025 04:57 Spam ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Awww.. crushed. Almost 9 whole minutes opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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That's the point and the problem. "Your simple demand is that I agree with your interpretation of my statement" What demand? "That its acceptable to superimpose your interpretation into every statement or question and expect me to answer on those grounds?" Flip it. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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