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Looks like we are now deporting Los Angeles Persians, much like we once incarcerated Japanese-American citizens during World War II. We don't use Manzanar or Tulelake facilities now, they are tourist attractions. Jeez, what a mess... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | ||
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Tom, the followers of the cult of the supreme leader will be here to explain how wrong we all are ... as of today i cannot say more than up to the time there are big changes in usa rules, laws and dictator we are not visiting our neighbours and friends in alaska ... | |||
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If you swap friends for politics, then they were never your good friends Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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And you say this as if you have first hand knowledge of their status, political statements, social media posts or anything. Just Trump, Trump. Trump. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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THE MAGA ARSEHOLE is making sure his name is always in the news, because he never shuts his MAGA MOUTH! A lout with not an ounce of dignity or character!  | |||
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I do not have that first hand knowledge. I am aware of a Persian community in the city, and recent ICE raids. I may indeed be jumping the gun on this... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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When I was in college in the late 1970's, shortly before the takeover of the US embassy in Tehron, there were a lot of Iranian students at my college. The majority of them were maniacs, writing on the blackboards (that dates me) in Arabic and chanting death to the Shah, death to America. But all of them weren't that way. I met Hassan and he got me through calculus. A really nice guy. He didn't share all the radical views shared by the majority and made that clear. I'll be forever grateful for his tutelage because I never would have got through calculus without him. Unfortunately, I lost track of him. I hope he is doing well. My plumber for a couple of decades is an Iranian immigrant -- legal. He's the best. One of the most honest and hard working men I've ever met. The problem is not the Iranian people, it is the government and the radical mullahs. I realize regime change is always fraught with risk, look what happened when we displaced Saddam, but this might be a situation where the people don't like their regime and if there is a stable leader to step in seamlessly, it might be an option. | |||
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This is so funny! Worried about poor Persians who are going about their daily lives! White half the country hates the other half! | |||
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Saeed, I really don't understand the comment. I do worry about everyday Iranians, like the young people who have just disappeared because they protested against the Mullahs' rules. And the everyday citizen who does just want to go about their life but can't because their radical government is picking fights and bringing bombs down on their heads. Yeah, I care about them. And I don't understand the second half of your comment about "the White Half hating the other half." What's that about? Are you just trying to spread the hate and division fostered by Obama? He initiated it after all. Now I'm not saying racism is dead, but prior to Obama, we'd made significant inroads. His presidency was a significant setback, but we will overcome. Pun intended. Racism is stupid and all intelligent people will realize that -- but maybe not Democrats, it's too much to assume they are intelligent. | |||
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He may have been trying to say, "while half the country hates the other half." A person spends a lot of time trying to translate phone posts. Bill | |||
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Yes that is what I meant. But, there is an awful racial hatred in America too! And never forget that you would not need to worry about anyone from any country, if you minded your own bloody business! The current crisis in Iran was started by YOU. For interfering in their affairs! | |||
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Saeed, I realize that the US supported the Shah, but I don't agree that they created this situation. It is where it is and it cannot continue. Iran is a threat to the stability of the entire region and the world at this point and that has to be dealt with. A peaceful transition would be preferable. | |||
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Look at facts of problems we are having today. They were ALL started by the West. Look at Palestine and Israel. Without the bloody Brits getting involved in trying to please the Zionists, and offering Palestine as a new home for the abused Jews of Europe, we would not be having this. Read the sic, illegal declaration. It plainly says nothing should be done to affect the Palestinians. What happened? The Zionist, behaving just like the Nazis, systematically kicked the Palestinians out of their homes to make way for imported Jews! November 2nd, 1917 Dear Lord Rothschild, I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet. "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country." I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation. Yours sincerely, Arthur James Balfour History does not give the West much credit for doing anything good in other countries. And you are at the forefront! Only a few days ago you bombed Iran. For what? Stop them having nuclear weapons to defend themselves? You gave Israel the uranium to make their bombs, so why try to stop Iran from having any? In fact, you have just proven that America only fears nuclear weapons. Why are you not invading North Korea? That moron has been threatening all his neighbors. In fact, he is a greater threat to America than Iran ever was! | |||
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BP should have stayed out of the middle east. So should all of the companies from all nations, whether western, eastern, or far eastern. The middle east should have been allowed to follow their natural course. They didn't need a Suez canal or a bunch of damn oilwells everywhere. As for the establishment of a Jewish state, they would have either established it or not. Bloodshed and tribal infighting would have gone on as it has for centuries and maybe the world would be better off. As it is, the middle east will always be a potential source of conflict. Too many of the people involved are flat out nuts! Bill. | |||
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Saeed, I think you miss who did what with regards to the formation of Israel. While to some extent the west formed it, it was the Germans (Nazis) and their Holocaust that caused the Jewish people to decide that they needed their own nation state and provided the motivation to do so… Or you could go find whichever Caesar ordered the diaspora of the Jews back in the first century AD. Yes, both were western. The Israelis have not only defeated the various Arab states every time they were attacked, but expanded each time. Maybe they would quit expanding if the folks there quit attacking? I get why the Palestinians are upset. I don’t get the way they respond. Terror? All that has done is worsen their position with everyone else. | |||
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Does anyone think the Hamas terror attack of October 7 benefitted the Palestinians in ANY WAY AT ALL? Just asking for a friend..  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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The Palestinians obviously do, why else would the continue to support, aid and give safe haven to Hamas? The Palestainians have several very easy and obvious options to ending the violence that involve getting rid of Hamas and negotiating peace with Israel. Didn't I just read yesterday that Israel has agreed to another ceasefire that as of yet Hamas hasn't? If I remember right Wilipedia seems to think there are about 20k Hamas fighters and 2 million Palestinians in Gaza. The idea that 2 million is helpless against 20k is laughable. | |||
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These Iranians can’t go back to Iran because they will be persecuted or killed. Unless they pose some kind of threat or here illegally they need to go to a different place 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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man it is so funny but alas we are talking about civilians killed and starving .... look up in the past what communist did to people living under a terror regime ... the same can be said for many people living under dictatorship and soon your country will be on par with them ... the massacre of october 7th did not justify what was done after nor the bombing by israel or your country of iran ... what your country has done to russia or north korea they were your direct ennemies in the past ... | |||
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the same as venezelua when iran decided to nationalize oil usa had to step in like they did in chile ... i do remember when our family hosted via our church refugees from chili and we were not communist at home as the family fled it ... | |||
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the north korea threat like the russian one are interesting as trump is the new buddy of them and the followers of the cult of the supreme leader are swallowing it and even defending it hilarious to say the least ... | |||
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It's evil. True, Biblical evil. I don't believe there's a participant here that can stand the idea of killed and starving civilians, much less perpetrated. So why does Hamas/ the Palestanians do it? Would you conceal your combat operations behind civilians and women and children? I know the answer is no, I wouldn't either. Neither of us would use our daughters as human shields, neither of us would endanger our families lives with our violent pursuits. So why do Hamas and the Palestinians? | |||
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The best question I've seen. As a guess, I would say they don't give a shit about collateral damage, women, kids, innocents. Hamas are animals. | |||
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Agreed, but or so why do 2 million Palestanians support it? | |||
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They've always been ruled, & it's all they know. I think they believe this to be a societal norm. They accept the collateral damage because they are raised in hatred of Jews. To me it's the same as the 2A guys who are unwilling to try anything, no matter how slight, to prevent gun violence. The thousands of innocents are an acceptable price for their end game. Maybe not the best analogy, but I doubt either problem has a solution. | |||
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² Appreciate your thoughts. I hope both problems have a solution. | |||
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Yes. I know a couple of them who can not go back in safety. One used to meet his mother in Turkey. She would fly there and they'd have a few days together. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Idiotic analogy Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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He continues to ignore how the turks treated to people that lived in the Palestine.....its very convenient for him to blame the civilized country that actually gave his family his country..... Iknow, I know, death to america...... | |||
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