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hmm, in this matter, you are an idiot. You are both under informed and unwilling of becoming informed -- IOW, an idiot. The border is WIDE OPEN - the amount of people flooding over is unprecedented, and at least 8 million have come over in the last 3 years -- this is compared to the 10-12million illegals oft quoted since the 80s .. No joke, no one can ever take your opinion of the border situation seriously, like, EVER again. even "close enough" notices there's a problem, and that granny is 1400 miles from the border opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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"fox lie" my eye
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/n...-2023-monthly-update i MEAN, seriously, me, your daily dose of copium must be enormous - math, it's pretty simple - first hand experience, can't be beat - you BELIEVING that the open border is a fox lie? priceless opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Spot on. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Send all of your money to the ewecrane lol mikey, fire your cpa, just send all of your money to zelensky, all of it! I want OUR border protected! First and foremost! I don't want another penny of my hard earned tax dollars sent out of our borders until ours are secured! . | |||
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Agreed! . | |||
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Yeah, well, look over there....moron! | |||
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How stupid are you really????? Tens of thousands of Illegals a month caught, then released into our country????? Apprehensions and seizures are up because your retarded president and his idiot border czar are inviting them..... Did your mother have NY children that survived birth??? | |||
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Apprehensions are up because the FJB admin invites illegals to come. Catch and release on those caught, release INTO the US..... Are you just stupid or do you really not understand? . | |||
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Well...she is a proven defective so......stupidity is expected.... . | |||
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It really is. Either these leftists are totally stupid, or will lie to no end to fever for the miscreants of the democrat party...... . | |||
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Yes Sir! . | |||
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And people who are too stupid to pick the right ruler are worms! Wiggling about screaming WE ARE FREE!  | |||
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https://www.azcentral.com/stor...to-know/71131346007/ Are US borders 'open?' Is there a 'border invasion?' (excerpts) Is there an 'open border' with Mexico? The narrative of the U.S.-Mexico border being “open” is largely subjective and dependent on who you ask. Nonetheless, the rhetoric of “open borders” may be contributing to a rise in Central American migration to the southern border. Republican politicians, including former President Donald Trump, have criticized the Biden administration’s approach to the situation at the southern border as “open border policies” since President Joe Biden took office. Proponents of the “open border” narrative in the past have pointed to Biden’s support of enforcing unauthorized border crossings as a civil offense instead of a criminal one during a Democratic presidential debate as evidence of open-border policies. Biden’s decision to halt border wall construction on his first day in office in January also has contributed to the narrative of open borders. Still, the Biden administration has continuously closed border wall gaps along the Arizona-Mexico border and recently waived 26 federal laws in South Texas for new border wall construction. A new poll by America’s Voice found that disinformation about “open borders” contributes to Central American migration to the U.S. The poll, released Sept. 26, found that more than one in four Central American respondents heard and approximately one in five believed rhetoric that the “border is open.” Social media was the most used source of information about the border among respondents from ages 16-24, according to the poll. Of the young respondents, who are the ages most likely to consider migrating, 71% reported having heard U.S. officials or politicians say the border is open through social media. The poll surveyed 600 people living in El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua in July. The U.S.-Mexico border is also equipped with nearly 20,000 Border Patrol agents, surveillance towers, cameras and tethered blimps to patrol and protect the international boundary, according to 2021 CBP data. Is there a 'border invasion' or border crisis? Republican lawmakers and candidates have consistently described the situation at the southern border as an “invasion.” The rhetoric has led to harmful effects for migrants and Latinos in the U.S., advocates say. More than half of Americans say that there’s an invasion at the southern border, according to an August 2022 NPR/Ipsos poll. For the second time in U.S. history, annual migrant encounters along the Southwestern border eclipsed 2 million, according to unpublished Department of Homeland Security data obtained by CBS News. Fiscal year 2023, which ended in September, was only surpassed in annual migrant encounters by 2022. The rise in migrant arrivals has strained local communities and federal agencies. Humanitarian organizations have scrambled to respond to the increase in order to prevent unsheltered migrant street releases across Arizona. ================================================= https://baptistnews.com/articl...aooB0XcaAkXIEALw_wcB Closed minds are behind the open border myth, and immigrants are not the source of COVID either ANALYSIS TODD THOMASON | OCTOBER 19, 2021 Misinformation campaign ==================================================== So, you see, there is reason to think that it's really the rightists' misinformation campaign and lies narratives about the "open border" that is encouraging the surge, rather than Biden admin policies. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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And people that accept the lucky sperm as rulers are much less than worms.....so.... | |||
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ME, I think spaces are allowed in handles. might i suggest ID10T for your renaming? Even Mayorkas admits to 8 MILLION illegals - that "hill" you are going to die on is actually a zit opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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You are the idiot. I didn't say that there was no surge. I said that the "open border" myth is disinformation generated by rightists as a narrative attack on the Biden admin, and THAT is the real reason for the surge. The sad thing is that the lies are effective, both in affecting Biden's polls and in encouraging migrants to try their luck, especially believing the "open border" lies promulgated for political gain. They learn the true nature of rightists the hard way. You and others claim the surge is directly related to Biden's policy. Biden never declared "open borders". You did, and it's a lie, but the migrants believed it. Perhaps the surge was unintended consequences, but rightists will never own it. Instead, they will add it to the narrative as reinforcement. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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On a CBS nightly news show, I saw Biden administration controlled border patrol agents helping illegals up an embankment into the US--in other words, helping them break our law. Don't tell me we don't have an open border policy under our current president. | |||
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Next you're going to try and repeat the lies from last spring, where the libbies said the GOP invented "Defund the police" changing the label on a thing doesn't change the thing - ask all the stores about "Sales" on black friday it's really weird, you know, how there was a massive numbers of illegals coming over from 2009-2016, then, WEIRDLY, those numbers drooped from 2017-2020 -- and then picked up again .. yeah, weird opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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https://baptistnews.com/articl...aooB0XcaAkXIEALw_wcB Closed minds are behind the open border myth, and immigrants are not the source of COVID either ANALYSIS TODD THOMASON | OCTOBER 19, 2021 Disinformation campaign (excerpt) The recent surge of Haitian and Central American migrants attempting to enter America in 2021 clearly has overwhelmed U.S. Border Patrol capacities and strained the entire immigration system. Some migrants reported to NBC News in March that Border Patrol agents released them before they received a specific date to appear in court. The need for additional resources and policy reform is obvious. Nevertheless, claims that immigrants are “flooding” into the United States as if the borders were “open” are misleading at best. The motives and internal logic behind the claim are clear. In the highly charged and ideologically entrenched political environment of our present time, the existence of such a misinformation campaign should come as no surprise. The motives and internal logic behind the claim are clear. For those who cheered President Trump’s border wall and his now repealed travel bans, the “open borders” narrative offers vindication for their position. For those hailing anti-maskers and antivaxxers as freedom-fighting patriots, it offers a satisfactory explanation for COVID casualties that doesn’t contradict their convictions. It’s the foreigners’ fault. But foreigners can’t be faulted if large numbers of them aren’t getting into the country. Therefore, the borders must be “open.” Strategically, this right-wing narrative is rather brilliant. It strikes the perfect energizing note for a particular political base. However, there are deeper and more disturbing currents at work here beyond the political expediency of the moment. Particularly concerning is the white supremacist undertow. “Open borders” is essentially a 2021 remake of Donald Trump’s 2016 “bad hombres” conceit, which itself was a variation of a generations-old “filthy foreigner” motif. Foreigners are beating us abroad and ruining us from within. Mexico is exporting its rejects and importing our jobs. Now these “filthy foreigners” are killing us with COVD as well as threatening our women and ruining our kids with drugs. In biblical terms, they’re unclean. Fear is the genre of this “story,” and its language is prejudice, plain and simple. It should be rejected as such, especially by those who profess Jesus. A faith rooted to love of God and love of neighbor cannot abide a politics grounded in ideological convenience and fear of the other. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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here's that famous GOP news source, with the words from that famous GOP President -- https://www.cnn.com/videos/wor...g1-cnni-politics.cnn arguing with an idiot is like wrestling a pig in sh!t ..... opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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The border is wide open. Anyone who denies it is a fool. Anyone who tries to cover it up is a liar and complicit. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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https://www.thenation.com/arti...co-border-detention/ NOVEMBER 22, 2023 Biden’s Supposed “Open-Border Policy” Does Not Exist Just a glance at 2023 border contracts suggests that more walls, detention centers, and expulsion flights are coming. In September 23, at about 2:30 AM, a Border Patrol surveillance camera captured two people crossing the international boundary between Mexico and the United States on the outskirts of Nogales, Arizona. A Border Patrol vehicle arrived quickly, but not before one of them had fled back into Mexico. When an armed agent stepped out, dressed in a forest-green uniform, he found a 16-year-old girl from Mexico softly crying, while holding her month-old baby swaddled in a blanket. The agent commanded her to get in the vehicle. As they then drove to the Nogales Border Patrol station, the girl, he later reported, tried to speak to him in Spanish through the security partition that separated them. Her tiny daughter, she was telling him, was in distress. Cameras showed that the vehicle stopped for all of 10 seconds before continuing. The agent later claimed he couldn’t understand what she was saying and that he wanted to find a fluent Spanish speaker at the station. He didn’t realize, he insisted, that the infant was struggling to breathe, though the child soon died. This hellish story of suffering at our border is but one of hundreds of similar tales of horror from 2023. They illustrate a fundamental truth about that border: It neither is, nor ever was, an “open” one in the Biden years, nor does the president faintly have an open-border policy, though prepare yourself to hear otherwise—over and over again—in Trumpublican campaign ads next year. They’ll repeat what party officials are already saying all too repetitively: that “President Biden’s radical open borders policies” have created “the worst border crisis in American history.” (While those are the exact words of House Oversight Committee chair James Comer, similar sentiments are already being offered by countless members of the GOP.) Comer’s claim is, of course, no less predictable than the hardships migrants like that girl are suffering as they try to reach this country. While such border narratives traffic in the unreal, what is real either isn’t effectively reported or gets lost amid all the politically motivated noise. Loud fantasies are expansively covered, while life-and-death stories, like those of that infant and her mother, are seldom reported and, if they are, quickly disappear. Barely a week before that 16 year old was desperately trying to communicate to the agent in Spanish, the United Nations International Organization for Migration (IOM) labeled the US-Mexico border the world’s “deadliest migration land route.” In 2022, a record 853 remains of dead border crossers were recovered (and this is the US Border Patrol’s figure, which is even higher than the IOM’s), dwarfing the record of 568 set the previous year. Such numbers, the IOM stresses, are known to be distinct undercounts, leaving all too many families pining for lost loved ones. But those border fatalities weren’t the only record breaker. Another was confirmed just a week after medical personnel at the Nogales station rushed to treat that girl’s baby. The number of border contracts issued to private industry also set a new record. Like those deaths, such contracts soared in fiscal year 2023 to $9.96 billion, instantly stripping the previous high, also set last year, of $7.5 billion. And mind you, those gifts to industry were made from the highest budget ever (including in the Trump years) for border and immigration enforcement: $29.8 billion. So, don’t for a second think that the United States has an “open” border. In fact, it’s never been more fortified or—something few even bother to mention—more profitable, if you happen to be part of the border-industrial complex. If you count all the contracts for private industry from US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) since Joe Biden took office—for, that is, 2021, 2022, and 2023—the number comes to $23.5 billion. And though you’d never guess it, given what we normally hear, that already beats Donald Trump’s total for his full four years in office, $20.9 billion. Or, to put the matter in a more historical perspective, private contracts for the Biden years already top the cumulative $22.5 billion spent in border and immigration enforcement budgets from 1975 to 1997. That’s 22 years if you weren’t counting. In other words, it’s essentially guaranteed that the Biden administration will break all records for paying border contractors. And, in truth, if it weren’t for the “open borders” political mania of the moment, this wouldn’t be a surprise at all. Remember, while running for president in 2020, Biden received three times more campaign contributions than Trump from members of the top companies in the border industry. (The Donald talked a good game, of course, and received his share of the industry pie over the years, but that same border-industrial complex was right if it thought Biden would all too literally pay off for them.) And keep in mind as well that Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas represented some of the top border companies like Leidos and Northrop Grumman at a private law firm (where he earned $3.31 million) before joining the Biden administration. While the president has certainly traded in the hostile rhetoric associated with the bombastic Trump for a far more sterile and bureaucratic language, while adding in a healthy dose of the “humane,” budgets and private-sector contracts tell an all-too-familiar story in which the border-enforcement apparatus only continues to grow ever larger, regardless of who’s president. As 2023 nears its end, there have simply never been as many opportunities to make a killing (figuratively as well as literally) by surveilling, arresting, caging, and expelling people from this country. In 2023, there were 8,033 such opportunities—and I’m speaking here about contracts in play—or about 22 contracts a day. Among this year’s top border companies is Classic Air Charter, a former CIA contractor that is now getting $793 million to provide flights expelling people from the United States. Since Biden took office, deportation flights for Immigration and Customs Enforcement Air Operations have increased, as have the number of people detained, while private prison companies like CoreCivic and Geo Group continue to receive plenty of contracts to lock up migrants. Among border contract stand-outs, Fisher Sand and Gravel was recently awarded $259.3 million for “border infrastructure,” presumably the same sort of border wall construction it did in the Trump years (for which it received $2 billion in contracts). That company also got one from the scandal-ridden, Steve Bannon–led “We Build the Wall,” a private outfit that solicited donations to construct portions of Trump’s wall. And, mind you, that September contract for border infrastructure came just before the Biden administration announced that it would waive 26 laws protecting people and the planet, including the Clean Water Act and the Endangered Species Act, to put up a new section of border wall in Starr County, Texas. In other words, just a glance at 2023 border contracts suggests that more walls, detention centers, and expulsion flights are coming. And don’t forget military monoliths like Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman that also command hefty contracts to maintain CBP’s fixed-wing aircraft; or San Diego–based General Atomics that continues to make money off the Predator B unmanned drones it began selling to CBP in the early 2000s. No wonder some people think our borderlands are under military occupation. In short (or long), that list of contracts speaks to anything but a “radical open-border policy.” Funds are being handed out for “unaccompanied alien children and family units transportation,” data centers, medical staffing services, infrastructure construction (lots of it), “soft-sided facilities” (meaning tent detention camps), surveillance system upgrades, software support, “travelers processing vetting software,” a “low energy non-intrusive inspection system” (whatever that may mean), detention centers, radios, data and analytical support services, guard and transport services—the list only goes on and on and on. Reading through it, one gets the impression that the border and immigration enforcement regime is its own civilization, with its own infrastructure and ever more expensive rhyme and reason. And that fortification process is only poised to become yet more intensive. In October, buried in an emergency supplemental funding request addressing “key national security priorities” (included military assistance to Ukraine and Israel), the Biden administration included a whopping $14 billion in supplemental funding for that border and immigration apparatus. Added to a 2024 budget, which, at $28.2 billion, represented a slight decrease from 2023, if passed by Congress, that addition will further “bolster our nation’s border enforcement,” paving the way for an even more profitable 2024 for those border companies and, if that account of the mother and her baby is any indication, more suffering and death. The “Radical Open Borders Policy” Does Not Exist Near where that 16-year-old mother had crossed into the United States stood a Remote Video Surveillance System, a tower that the Border Patrol possessed courtesy of the military monolith General Dynamics. Keep in mind that there was a reason that mother and daughter crossed in such grim terrain, near but not into the city of Nogales. Thanks to those hundreds of billions of dollars spent building up the “infrastructure” of border enforcement year after year after year, it’s become essentially impossible for migrants to cross directly into most border cities, forcing them out to the desert or to the sea and to far greater personal danger. Since 2008 (as far back as you can see contract records at USAspending.gov), CBP and ICE have issued 115,484 contracts worth $68.7 billion, while their cumulative budgets since the creation of the Department of Homeland Security in 2002 add up to about $400 billion. If Representative Comer’s investigative team went to the city of Nogales to investigate Biden’s “radical open borders policy,” they could walk right up to a 20-foot-high border wall draped from top to bottom with rows of coiling razor wire. There, they might even see shreds from clothes caught in their barbs and imagine that people were still crossing at that spot (though few are anymore). They would also immediately see green-striped Border Patrol vehicles like the one that picked up that mother and infant “sitting on their Xs” (meaning in stationary position) right up against the border. They’ve been doing so since the deterrence strategy was first officially implemented 30 years ago. If you want to enter this country unauthorized, in other words, you’re likely to have to risk your life. And so, to return to where I began, a little after 3 AM, the agent, young woman, and baby arrived at the Nogales Border Patrol station. Another agent spoke with the mother and quickly escorted her and her child to the medical screening area. According to the mother, her daughter “was not breathing and almost looked dead.” Medical personnel rapidly began resuscitation efforts, using an automated external defibrator, but sadly to no avail. That infant joined the hundreds of human beings who perished crossing the border this year, a number still being tallied, but that, according to the Washington Office on Latin America, had hit about 650 in August. And remember what planet we’re now on: This summer, relentless, record-breaking heat was the reality in the Southwestern US. (At one point, Phoenix, Arizona, had a record-breaking 31 consecutive days above 110 degrees and hit that temperature on a record 55 days in all.) The impact of such heat, only likely to increase in the years to come, on border-crossers remains to be determined, but migrant deaths in the Border Patrol’s El Paso, Texas, sector recently reached 148, more than doubling from the year before. Consider this amid all the Republican open-border charges: 1,421 remains of dead people were recovered along the border during Biden’s first two years in office, higher in other words than the 1,133 during Trump’s full four years. Imagine the national news stories, if the remains of nearly 1,500 hikers had been found in the Southwest during a two-year period (and many more had simply disappeared). But for migrants in those ever more profitable, ever deadlier borderlands, mum’s the word. The details of that young mother’s desert border crossing are sparse. I don’t know how long she had been there, who the other person she was with might have been, if she had ever before tried to cross, where in Mexico she was from (though she was a Mexican citizen), or why she was leaving. According to Border Patrol interviewers, she had been with a group of migrants, but when she saw her baby laboring to breathe, she crossed ahead of them. Once CBP’s medical staff realized the infant was in distress, they worked fast, but it was too late. The child died like 10,400 other migrants, if you count deaths from 1994 to 2022, according to sociologist and border scholar Timothy Dunn, who stresses that “many, many more were never found.” With such figures in mind, it should become more difficult to ignore a simple reality: that the all-too-profitable border apparatus is designed to make people suffer and let some die. It may, in fact, be the world’s deadliest land border. That, however, is a “crisis” you’re not likely to hear much, if anything, about over the next year, even as candidates, officials, and congressional representatives like Comer continue to insist that we’re facing the “worst border crisis in American history” and a disastrously “open” border. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Let me ask you a question, you seem like a serious person with some brainpower. What is it that the undocumented folks do over here that pisses you off so bad? Specifically. And, please don't tell me that it's just because they broke our immigration laws by crossing the border. If that were true, you'd be equally pissed off and vocal about all the employers that break the law by hiring them. Second, can you give an example of how this immigration problem that all of you spend so much time talking about has personally had an impact on you? I'd be interested in hearing from all of my friends on the "other side of the aisle" in relation to these issues. Because, I just don't understand it. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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The immigrants wanting to cross the border travel long and hard, often with the help of those taking advantage of the lie. But a large majority believe Tucker Carlson's lie, among others, that the border is "open". Of course they are disappointed when they get there, finding the border is not "open". Many manage to find a way across. Some get away, some are arrested. But the main thing is that many came expecting "Open Border" stemming directly from the rightists' lie of open border. So your lies actually contributed significantly to the surge. Yet, you claim the surge itself vindicates your lie. It does, in a backwards way. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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What is a "Biden controlled Border Patrol agent?" What should they be doing? Pushing men, women and children back into the river? -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Lane, don't try to put words in my mouth, you don't have the brain-power. And, of course there are many undocumented folks crossing the border every day. That doesn't equate to a stated "open border" policy by the Biden administration. There is no such thing. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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This is just one example of how propaganda ad disinformation and lies works in MAGA world. Fox News is the most influential culprit. The True Believers get to believing lies are truth, and get all passionate about it. Naturally, they don't listen to reality on it, yet they whine, lament, about the "divide" and how the country is falling apart. They can't acknowledge that this is a fine example of how pushing a disinformation narrative actually inflamed the situation they fear and are bitching about. And it may qualify as a humanitarian crisis, but being ultra-nationalists, they don't care at all about that or their contribution to it. But it's good for the fascist fodder. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Everyone simplifies terms. Kids in cages under Trump, as an example. True, Biden hasn’t gotten rid of any of the laws regarding immigration, but he’s not making a priority of enforcing them and his whole tenor is “we welcome “migrants”. As to going after folks who knowingly hire illegals, yes. We should. We should find a way to make it easier to determine who is not here legally- and enforce it. Folks on student visas should not be allowed to work for any pay. We should find a way to make it easier to let folks comply with the law. I’d be all for insisting that money transfers out of the country have to be verified that it is legally earned money by someone who is legally here… and if that shuts down western Union or other shady financial institutions, so be it. Whatever Biden is doing sure as hell isn’t working. Not that I’m claiming the GOP is doing a much better job of it. | |||
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Damn Mike…since you are so much smarter…surely you can see that since they have a policy to do nothing but facilitate the crossing and the fact that they could stop it if they wanted to…that that equates to an open border policy. It may be an unofficial policy but it certainly is this administration’s policy.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Surely you jest for the above is definitely a joke. They don’t find the border closed at all when they arrive. They cross the river in large numbers in broad daylight in the middle of town in Del Rio and CBP agents help them up the bank on the US side. Most of them WANT to speak to CBP because all CBP does is a brief documentation, gives them a notice to appear (which is basically a phone number to call into once in a while because the system is running about 2 years behind), and gives them directions to the nearest NGO shelter in the USA. They are free to go wherever they want to with in the country…there is no restriction. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The photos I see the illegals usually have cell phones. If they were being turned back one would think that rather than haunting Republican dominated social media in English, these folks would be getting calls from friends, neighbors, and family telling them don’t come here. No job, no work, and they will send you back! Since they are coming in ever increasing numbers, obviously whatever Biden is doing isn’t working. | |||
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I have sat and watched it several days with my own eyes…it is the ultra rare exception that anyone is not released into the US with a notice to appear. But the majority are never even interviewed and just wander off. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Doc, you want to hear something funny? Funny peculiar, not, funny ha ha? During Obama's administration, once they were released (at times even shuttled to the interior of this country) the Obama administration actually went so far as to designate them "Deported" I remember during the Obama presidency replying to a post made by the infamous Edmond Huet when he claimed to have spent time observing the goings on at the Nogales port of entry. If memory serves me he was there prior to that (pre-Obama) in a journalistic capacity. He said at that time the USC&BP busses were full and Southbound through the crossing. I replied, Edmond, that must have been many years ago, because those very same 2-toned green busses were full and heading for points North, and had been for quite some time. As I said, years have passed. And what was old (catch & release) is new again... I idly wonder what Edmond would think about all the illegal Russians sneaking into and in some cases being shuttled to the interior of the USA? . | |||
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Setting aside the bullshit parts of your absurd narrative....And, what happens then? They get jobs and work? For American employers that happily and readily hire them? By the way, where are your complaints about those employers who enable these evil invaders who, according to you, must be bent on lives of crime in and destruction to the United States? Hmmmm. I guess a good hypocritical republican doesn't criticize businesses that profit and flourish from migrant labor, right? You are so full of shit. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Oh boy. Here we go with the lying bullshit. Sat where and watched what for several days? -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Question for you MM. have you been to the border before and after the Biden administration took over? I have said over and over. If they have been all vetted, and can support themselves when they get here, give them a work permit. Just because you are worried about mowing your lawn, dont put that on the rest of us. | |||
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The Border Patrol is part of the executive branch, which is controlled by Biden. I didn't say they should push the illegals back into the river. But our own officers should not be helping them break our law. If the Republicans are daffy enough to nominate Trump, I'll have to vote for Biden. But his public pronouncements and policies regarding our border disgust and anger me. | |||
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You dumbshit Jeffi. Trump is a US citizen, that makes his kids US citizens, regardless of their moms status. A little brain dead trying to throw shit at R's. Jeffi? | |||
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