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God save us from rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth pro-life zealots. https://apnews.com/article/pre...c4889525f2300c441745 There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | ||
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Look up what has happened in Texas. It is unjustifiable, and it is worse then the social harm they said they wanted to correct. | |||
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Texas is beyond pathetic on this matter, asking neighbors to rat out any woman who might have traveled out of state for an abortion. Reminds me of the little Communist children urged to report neighbors who might have uttered an anti-Marxist thought. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Hey, it worked fine for East Germany! (Well, for a while….) | |||
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So far, not a single intelligent comment! A VERY complex situation, religiously, ethically, medically.. Certainly no EXTREME ZEALOTS in any category Drawing straws might be an easier way to come up with a "solution" | |||
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What? Freedom and Liberty is suspended when people’s personal choices aren’t in line with the mandates of the right wing religious extremists? Hmmm - I thought those were Americans big selling points! | |||
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Yeah, killing babies is just such a great thing  How despicable! | |||
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Dollars to donuts I know who Terri Schiavo's folks would cheer on in this case... . | |||
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I absolutely hate this It's WORSE than the Obama "if you see something, day something" campaign of ratting out your neighbor opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Plan Parenthood v Casey allowed any state to ban abortion at viability. No, a heartbeat alone should not be considered viability. That is the question the S. Ct., should have resolved and not given the mob led by those who care only about political power this hammer. | |||
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The same can be said for forcing a 12 year rape or incest victim to carry a fetus to term. Mike | |||
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Or forcing a woman to deliver a miscarriage causing her to become sterile. Texas did that. | |||
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I'm not going to argue or debate anyone on this topic, i think it's horrible. The mother is brain dead. I assume her soul has flown and she's holding hands with Jesus. Would the mother want her baby to have a chance at life? I'd guess she would. Would her parents or her spouse or her siblings want the dead mother's baby to have a chance at life? I'd guess they would. I don't see how anyone is being cruel or even insensitive about or to the mother. The woman is passed, gone. The mother intended to get pregnant or at least intended to have the baby I guess? I would think she'd want her child to live. | |||
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Well, going back to the OP and reconciling that with Scott's opinion post, I agree with Scott on this one. But not for the same reasons. Scott has religious reasons, which in this case mesh with my humanitarian reasons. IOW, I agree with the hopeful outcome, but such hope doesn't have the same basis. I don't need to guess or assume anything other than the known facts which bottom line is that the baby has a chance. He/she has no vote in it. Give the baby a chance. He/she may save the world. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Man, this is a tough issue. I would let the next of kin make the call. I hope the hospital isn't sending bills to the dead woman's family. | |||
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Well, Roland, it's not a tough call for me, as to the right thing to do. If the next of kin, having power of attorney or otherwise the power, make the wrong call, that's on them. You hope... My hope is that the whole matter, through the c-section and beyond, is covered by some sort of health insurance, Medicare, Medicaid, etc., and the next of kin chips in and raises the child as a loving, influential, productive, constructive liberal. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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If productive and constructive, the child would have to be a conservative. Apart from that grievous error, I agree with your sentiment. Bill | |||
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Bullshit Bill, I know plenty of people who are both productive and constructive on both sides of the aisle. | |||
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My statement was made jokingly, in response to that of M.E. Still, I'll stand by it! Bill | |||
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I posted that comment as an invitation for the kind of response you made.  Coming from you, I figured your response was so outrageous it had to be jokingly, and you got my drift. That's why I didn't bite. Okay, I'll stand by my original post. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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