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Originally posted by lavaca:
This might be popular but I'm tired of the attacks from mindless liberals so like barking dogs on a leopard, they have me up a tree. I can't kill them all, so they will eventually kill me. This needs needs to end. Saeed, can you kill the Political forum?

If not, I'd just urge anyone with a brain to boycott it and leave it to Mike Mitchell, Jeffive and wymple.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
This might be popular but I'm tired of the attacks from mindless liberals so like barking dogs on a leopard, they have me up a tree. I can't kill them all, so they will eventually kill me. This needs needs to end. Saeed, can you kill the Political forum?

If not, I'd just urge anyone with a brain to boycott it and leave it to Mike Mitchell, Jeffive and wymple.

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Originally posted by buffybr:
I visit AR just about every day, but I rarely go to the Political forum.

AR is a great hunting and shooting Forum, but the majority of the posters on the Political forum constantly praise and support the American political party that hates and wants to do away with our right to own guns, and they constantly bash our political party that supports our right to own guns.

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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Originally posted by buffybr:
I visit AR just about every day, but I rarely go to the Political forum.

AR is a great hunting and shooting Forum, but the majority of the posters on the Political forum constantly praise and support the American political party that hates and wants to do away with our right to own guns, and they constantly bash our political party that supports our right to own guns.

…and yet here you are, expressing that if your political position is not endorsed the forum should be silenced. How very MAGAty of you.
It might come as a shock, but non-Trumpites hunt and shoot too, and in equal or greater numbers judging by what I see here.

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Originally posted by wymple:
"As far as I know, we are among the very few, if any, hunting and shooting sites that allows free speech!"

Absolutely. Saeed seems to understand more about free speech than most of the right wingers, like lavaca. As far as having a left wing bent, it used to be the exact opposite. Funny how that works, some intelligent people knocking down the stupid so they leave, then the leftovers like lavaca whine they are in the minority. Truth is, they are in the minority because they went off the deep end, like Lane, and now just double down on it supporting absolute pieces of shit like trump no matter what he says or does.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Go look at Lavaca’s recent post. He has left reality. Now, instead of debating his nonsense he wants the venue shutdown.

The new GOP control has done more to run off people than folks on the Left.

I am Republican. I am not this nor what it has been.

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I have never heard of a Republican in favor of unrealized capital gains.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Go look at Lavaca’s recent post. He has left reality. Now, instead of debating his nonsense he wants the venue shutdown.

The new GOP control has done more to run off people than folks on the Left.

I am Republican. I am not this nor what it has been.

I won't challenge you on being a Republican, however, I have never heard of a Republican in favor of unrealized capital gains.

Maybe its an Arizona thing?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Go look at Lavaca’s recent post. He has left reality. Now, instead of debating his nonsense he wants the venue shutdown.

The new GOP control has done more to run off people than folks on the Left.

I am Republican. I am not this nor what it has been.

I won't challenge you on being a Republican, however, I have never heard of a Republican in favor of unrealized capital gains.

Maybe its an Arizona thing?

I had never heard of a republican (or any American) supporting a seditionist until 2021.

Maybe it's a trump thing.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Go look at Lavaca’s recent post. He has left reality. Now, instead of debating his nonsense he wants the venue shutdown.

The new GOP control has done more to run off people than folks on the Left.

I am Republican. I am not this nor what it has been.

I won't challenge you on being a Republican, however, I have never heard of a Republican in favor of unrealized capital gains.

Maybe its an Arizona thing?

I had never heard of a republican (or any American) supporting a seditionist until 2021.

Maybe it's a trump thing.

As I've repeatedly stated, My vote for Trump is simply a blocking move to keep Harris out.

And if Trump was actually guilty of sedition, don't you agree that this highly weaponized DOJ would have charged him with such?

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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Originally posted by buffybr:
I visit AR just about every day, but I rarely go to the Political forum.

AR is a great hunting and shooting Forum, but the majority of the posters on the Political forum constantly praise and support the American political party that hates and wants to do away with our right to own guns, and they constantly bash our political party that supports our right to own guns.

…and yet here you are, expressing that if your political position is not endorsed the forum should be silenced. How very MAGAty of you.
It might come as a shock, but non-Trumpites hunt and shoot too, and in equal or greater numbers judging by what I see here.

From my unasked perspective, It isn't our political position you're attacking.

It is personal. You seem to wish to destroy a person who simply see's things through a different prism. (you in the collective)

Example - I saw someone in here call Dogcat a cunt. Ross is one of the most respected member of this forum. there is no room for that kind of insult. Regardless of anyones position.

Most in here simply desire a far left, progressive echo chamber.

I came looking for "robust debate" But was met with such acidic remarks, I just decided to not participate, which is our option.

I don't wan't to see it shut down either. It reminds me if what the other side thinks.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
I never cease to be amazed at how some of the PF conservatives post in a way that is reflective of FOX News and trump's statements. All of this "shut down the forum talk" is about trump whining that he's getting shot at because people talk bad about him. So, nobody should be allowed to talk bad about him or hurt anybody else's feelings. What nonsense.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
I never cease to be amazed at how some of the PF conservatives post in a way that is reflective of FOX News and trump's statements. All of this "shut down the forum talk" is about trump whining that he's getting shot at because people talk bad about him. So, nobody should be allowed to talk bad about him or hurt anybody else's feelings. What nonsense.

It really doesn't matter to me. Just throwing my .02 in as to why very few Conservative post in here.

As I've stated, civil debate isn't possible down here. I have never once insulted a member in here with foul language

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Originally posted by crbutler:
It is kind of interesting how things have changed here.

When I started occasionally posting in the PF, the general tone was quite conservative and there were a few conservative voices who were somewhat impolite and engaged in personal insults as a matter of course.

Those folks were disciplined and often banned. This seemed to correlate with when Walter (RIP) became the main PF moderator.

Since that time, the lefties by and large have become the instigators of personal attacks and bad behavior. Certainly not all of them are, and most of those who do are not always doing it, but it does happen more on the left. It also is true that some folks on the right do it as well, but the majority is from the left, and unless I miss my guess, most of the US types here are more conservative than not, but most refuse to participate, which is probably due to the general tone in the crater here.

Notice that there is a lot less conservative side posting than in the past. I think it has to do with folks not enjoying the insults and remembering that when their side played the same tactics they got banned.

I don’t like being called stupid any more than the next guy, but it’s the way that it is here. I try to not respond in kind, and thank god I’m not an admin type.

Saeed has the patience of a saint given the number of insults hurled his way. I got to say I prefer his hands off method and responses with humorous insults back.

Most of us would not be making the type of name calling comments in person, that’s for sure.

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Originally posted by crbutler:

Since that time, the lefties by and large have become the instigators of personal attacks and bad behavior. Certainly not all of them are, and most of those who do are not always doing it, but it does happen more on the left. ...

Most of us would not be making the type of name calling comments in person, that’s for sure.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
So, nobody should be allowed to talk bad about him or hurt anybody else's feelings. What nonsense.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
again, Trump and the current path of the GOO has done more to send GOP members to not participating status or voting Dem than Dems have.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by crbutler:

Since that time, the lefties by and large have become the instigators of personal attacks and bad behavior. Certainly not all of them are, and most of those who do are not always doing it, but it does happen more on the left. ...

Most of us would not be making the type of name calling comments in person, that’s for sure.

Doc,
totally agree - I don't recall a rightie calling me every name in the book, while there's a couple lefies that are somewhat freer with cursing a person out. Oh, I am not above the fray of insults (understatement) however, I don't swear in forums, and frankly, don't say a WORD here that I wouldn't say in a face to face situation, under the same conditions.

It's strange, I've even invited those screaming curse words like a 14 year old having just learned them, for a face to face. The ones that have agreed, we've had a civil, if strained, conversation, where we spoke and listened to each other - then there are the folks that think they can say anything they want from behind a keyboard - In no event do I think we changed each others minds -

but never have they decided to use those cursing behaviors in a face to face situation.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
So, nobody should be allowed to talk bad about him or hurt anybody else's feelings. What nonsense.

Mike, it's "your" side that says words are violence -

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by crbutler:

Since that time, the lefties by and large have become the instigators of personal attacks and bad behavior. Certainly not all of them are, and most of those who do are not always doing it, but it does happen more on the left. ...

Most of us would not be making the type of name calling comments in person, that’s for sure.

Doc,
totally agree - I don't recall a rightie calling me every name in the book, while there's a couple lefies that are somewhat freer with cursing a person out. Oh, I am not above the fray of insults (understatement) however, I don't swear in forums, and frankly, don't say a WORD here that I wouldn't say in a face to face situation, under the same conditions.

It's strange, I've even invited those screaming curse words like a 14 year old having just learned them, for a face to face. The ones that have agreed, we've had a civil, if strained, conversation, where we spoke and listened to each other - then there are the folks that think they can say anything they want from behind a keyboard - In no event do I think we changed each others minds -

but never have they decided to use those cursing behaviors in a face to face situation.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
So, nobody should be allowed to talk bad about him or hurt anybody else's feelings. What nonsense.

Mike, it's "your" side that says words are violence -

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
tell the world he's an animal and an enemy, and you don't expect him to be hunted ....

okay Mike

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
tell the world he's an animal and an enemy, and you don't expect him to be hunted ....

okay Mike

Please take a look at how trump characterizes folks before throwing stones.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
tell the world he's an animal and an enemy, and you don't expect him to be hunted ....

okay Mike

Please take a look at how trump characterizes folks before throwing stones.

strange, to the left, trumps words caused a riot in the capitol, but left words, and let's recall, the left things words are weapons, disavows their own words -- calling him a threat, and enemy of the state, blah blah ...

dude, can we agree on using the same yardstick?