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"God d---it shut down the Senate!" Rep. LaMonica McIver, D-N.J., said during an anti-DOGE protest in Washington, D.C., Tuesday. " We are at war !"

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., told the crowd Tuesday, "We are here to fight back."

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"We are gonna be in your face, we are gonna be on your a--es and we are going to make sure you understand what democracy looks like, and this ain’t it," Rep. Jasmine Crockett, D-Texas, added.

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Democrats have doubled down on their call to action this week after House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries told Americans to "fight" Trump's agenda "in the streets" last week.

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Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass, said at another rally in Washington, D.C., Wednesday. "When we come back here the next time, there should be hundreds of thousands and millions of people descending on Washington, D.C."

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We will not shut up. We will stick up. We will rise up," Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., added.

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President Barack Obama once said, “Elections have consequences.”

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Originally posted by Scott King:
I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
WOW -- i mean, dang, there's only so much one can say about a party hell bent to ignore the will of the people --

In the words of a former president

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President Barack Obama once said, “Elections have consequences.”

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Originally posted by Scott King:
I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by Scott King:
I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

You are assuming there will be another Democrat president. If GOPers have their way, there won't be.

I don't expect Trump's opponents to do anything of the sort likewise regarding the precedent Trump set. I expect them to abide the rule of law. There is one precedent they might take advantage of, however. That was set by SCOTUS re exec immunity, if not impunity.

Okay, you can sit up now and take notice. Your conservative peers are taking law and order seriously, fascist style. Otherwise, they wouldn't be attacking the rule of law and flipping the script narratives and cheering the pardoning of the 1/6 criminals/hostages and attacking checks and balance institutional features in general. They know darn well that Trump is interested in cultivating his own supportive militia, on call, waiting for the signal, all outside the law and accountability.

They spent a lot of political capital on the lawfare lie narrative, which supports several other lie narratives and false equivalences. Now, within this thread we see the preemptive justifications narrative in the bud for when Trump unleashes the military on civilians. After all, that's the ultimate show of fascist power. Like so many other rationalizations, they throw the blame on the left - look what you made me do - they did it first so now we're justified.

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I think there'll be another Democrat president.

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by Scott King:
I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

You are assuming there will be another Democrat president. If GOPers have their way, there won't be.

I don't expect Trump's opponents to do anything of the sort likewise regarding the precedent Trump set. I expect them to abide the rule of law. There is one precedent they might take advantage of, however. That was set by SCOTUS re exec immunity, if not impunity.

Okay, you can sit up now and take notice. Your conservative peers are taking law and order seriously, fascist style. Otherwise, they wouldn't be attacking the rule of law and flipping the script narratives and cheering the pardoning of the 1/6 criminals/hostages and attacking checks and balance institutional features in general. They know darn well that Trump is interested in cultivating his own supportive militia, on call, waiting for the signal, all outside the law and accountability.

They spent a lot of political capital on the lawfare lie narrative, which supports several other lie narratives and false equivalences. Now, within this thread we see the preemptive justifications narrative in the bud for when Trump unleashes the military on civilians. After all, that's the ultimate show of fascist power. Like so many other rationalizations, they throw the blame on the left - look what you made me do - they did it first so now we're justified.

If Tom's numbers are correct, 163 million Americans didn't vote for Trump, 79 million did vote for Trump.

I think there'll be another Democrat president.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by Scott King:
I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

You are assuming there will be another Democrat president. If GOPers have their way, there won't be.

I don't expect Trump's opponents to do anything of the sort likewise regarding the precedent Trump set. I expect them to abide the rule of law. There is one precedent they might take advantage of, however. That was set by SCOTUS re exec immunity, if not impunity.

Okay, you can sit up now and take notice. Your conservative peers are taking law and order seriously, fascist style. Otherwise, they wouldn't be attacking the rule of law and flipping the script narratives and cheering the pardoning of the 1/6 criminals/hostages and attacking checks and balance institutional features in general. They know darn well that Trump is interested in cultivating his own supportive militia, on call, waiting for the signal, all outside the law and accountability.

They spent a lot of political capital on the lawfare lie narrative, which supports several other lie narratives and false equivalences. Now, within this thread we see the preemptive justifications narrative in the bud for when Trump unleashes the military on civilians. After all, that's the ultimate show of fascist power. Like so many other rationalizations, they throw the blame on the left - look what you made me do - they did it first so now we're justified.

If Tom's numbers are correct, 163 million Americans didn't vote for Trump, 79 million did vote for Trump.

I think there'll be another Democrat president.

they aren't -
77 million voted FOR trump
75 million voted for harris

second highest voter turn out in recent history -

those that choose to not vote aren't in the count - they decided, for whatever reason, not to participate --

by tom's logic,
the majority of voters have almost NEVER voted for the winner - this is one of those "figures don't lie, but liars figure" statements -

and, well, it's also a post of ignorance, as there is no such thing as a national popular vote - only the EC elects presidents -- and shockingly, that's been 100% for roughly 240 years

tom math perturbations are correct, the MAJORITY of eligible voters never vote for the winner, as we tend to run 55-57% voter participation rate, well, basically, since tracking

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I am aware of the non-participation rate. I can't speak for the nonparticipants, but I will say that it's been awhile since there was a good enough set of choices for a lot people to take off work to vote.

Still and all, Trump did not get quite a third of the eligible voters to vote for him. I don't see a mandate there.

Just a number, subject to interpretation...

And between you and I, as a low-time VFR pilot I have a lot of respect for naval aviators.

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the majority of voters have almost NEVER voted for the winner

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And between you and I, as a low-time VFR pilot I have a lot of respect for naval aviators.