Sure sounds like an insurrection and planning to disrupt government

07 February 2025, 03:26

quote:
"God d---it shut down the Senate!" Rep. LaMonica McIver, D-N.J., said during an anti-DOGE protest in Washington, D.C., Tuesday. " We are at war !"

hmm, members of congress, demanding to shutdown government, and demanding We are at war

and her conspiracy buddy, fauxahontas, is on a war path

quote:
Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., told the crowd Tuesday, "We are here to fight back."

I guess she get's a pass because she's a dem -- perhaps she hasn't heard the message from AG Bondi
"One Tier of Justice"
Sure smells like a conspiracy to shutdown the government, through force --

Hey, all you "Jan 6 was the worst day since the civil war" folks - here's your chance to prove you aren't a partisan hack

07 February 2025, 03:31

jeffeosso

but wait, there's more -- from people who apparently don't know what democracy means

quote:
"We are gonna be in your face, we are gonna be on your a--es and we are going to make sure you understand what democracy looks like, and this ain’t it," Rep. Jasmine Crockett, D-Texas, added.

uhm, democracy means majority rule -- which is a reason we aren't one

and, to remind you, when the rebel leader, sparticus jr said

quote:
Democrats have doubled down on their call to action this week after House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries told Americans to "fight" Trump's agenda "in the streets" last week.

and, from the same party, calling for mob rule and intimidation of congress persons, judges, and the executive branch

quote:
Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass, said at another rally in Washington, D.C., Wednesday. "When we come back here the next time, there should be hundreds of thousands and millions of people descending on Washington, D.C."

sparticus sr adds

quote:
We will not shut up. We will stick up. We will rise up," Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., added.

07 February 2025, 03:34

jeffeosso

WOW -- i mean, dang, there's only so much one can say about a party hell bent to ignore the will of the people --

In the words of a former president

quote:
President Barack Obama once said, “Elections have consequences.”

07 February 2025, 03:36

medved

like the 6 of january never happened either lol

one side is worng but not the other ... glad to live on that side of the border for now up to the 51st became a reality ...

07 February 2025, 06:28

jeffeosso

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0wnP7vzqfQw

07 February 2025, 07:09

Scott King

I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

07 February 2025, 17:02

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

g, i didn't have scott down as a royal president guy

07 February 2025, 17:06

Steve Bertram

We do still have the right to peacefully protest in this country Daisey.

Do you fear another sit-in?

07 February 2025, 20:22

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
WOW -- i mean, dang, there's only so much one can say about a party hell bent to ignore the will of the people --

In the words of a former president

quote:
President Barack Obama once said, “Elections have consequences.”

The will of the people is a slippery fish. More people didn't vote at all than did vote for either candidate.

Harris - 74 million votes
Trump - 79 million votes

Not worth taking time off from work - 89 million votes

07 February 2025, 20:53

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

You are assuming there will be another Democrat president. If GOPers have their way, there won't be.

I don't expect Trump's opponents to do anything of the sort likewise regarding the precedent Trump set. I expect them to abide the rule of law. There is one precedent they might take advantage of, however. That was set by SCOTUS re exec immunity, if not impunity.

Okay, you can sit up now and take notice. Your conservative peers are taking law and order seriously, fascist style. Otherwise, they wouldn't be attacking the rule of law and flipping the script narratives and cheering the pardoning of the 1/6 criminals/hostages and attacking checks and balance institutional features in general. They know darn well that Trump is interested in cultivating his own supportive militia, on call, waiting for the signal, all outside the law and accountability.

They spent a lot of political capital on the lawfare lie narrative, which supports several other lie narratives and false equivalences. Now, within this thread we see the preemptive justifications narrative in the bud for when Trump unleashes the military on civilians. After all, that's the ultimate show of fascist power. Like so many other rationalizations, they throw the blame on the left - look what you made me do - they did it first so now we're justified.

*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus

07 February 2025, 20:54

Mike Mitchell

Get back to me when they start lying about election fraud, bashing cops over the head, smashing windows and stealing from the Capital building.

Not even close to analagous, Jeffe. Even if you accept the revisionist history on the J6 insurrection.

07 February 2025, 22:05

Scott King

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

You are assuming there will be another Democrat president. If GOPers have their way, there won't be.

I don't expect Trump's opponents to do anything of the sort likewise regarding the precedent Trump set. I expect them to abide the rule of law. There is one precedent they might take advantage of, however. That was set by SCOTUS re exec immunity, if not impunity.

Okay, you can sit up now and take notice. Your conservative peers are taking law and order seriously, fascist style. Otherwise, they wouldn't be attacking the rule of law and flipping the script narratives and cheering the pardoning of the 1/6 criminals/hostages and attacking checks and balance institutional features in general. They know darn well that Trump is interested in cultivating his own supportive militia, on call, waiting for the signal, all outside the law and accountability.

They spent a lot of political capital on the lawfare lie narrative, which supports several other lie narratives and false equivalences. Now, within this thread we see the preemptive justifications narrative in the bud for when Trump unleashes the military on civilians. After all, that's the ultimate show of fascist power. Like so many other rationalizations, they throw the blame on the left - look what you made me do - they did it first so now we're justified.

If Tom's numbers are correct, 163 million Americans didn't vote for Trump, 79 million did vote for Trump.

I think there'll be another Democrat president.

07 February 2025, 22:29

JTEX

quote:
I think there'll be another Democrat president.

I'm sure there will, but only they change their America hating tunes. Ditch the dei and tranny lunacy. Not to mention the green new scam....

08 February 2025, 22:47

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

You are assuming there will be another Democrat president. If GOPers have their way, there won't be.

I don't expect Trump's opponents to do anything of the sort likewise regarding the precedent Trump set. I expect them to abide the rule of law. There is one precedent they might take advantage of, however. That was set by SCOTUS re exec immunity, if not impunity.

Okay, you can sit up now and take notice. Your conservative peers are taking law and order seriously, fascist style. Otherwise, they wouldn't be attacking the rule of law and flipping the script narratives and cheering the pardoning of the 1/6 criminals/hostages and attacking checks and balance institutional features in general. They know darn well that Trump is interested in cultivating his own supportive militia, on call, waiting for the signal, all outside the law and accountability.

They spent a lot of political capital on the lawfare lie narrative, which supports several other lie narratives and false equivalences. Now, within this thread we see the preemptive justifications narrative in the bud for when Trump unleashes the military on civilians. After all, that's the ultimate show of fascist power. Like so many other rationalizations, they throw the blame on the left - look what you made me do - they did it first so now we're justified.

If Tom's numbers are correct, 163 million Americans didn't vote for Trump, 79 million did vote for Trump.

I think there'll be another Democrat president.

they aren't -
77 million voted FOR trump
75 million voted for harris

second highest voter turn out in recent history -

those that choose to not vote aren't in the count - they decided, for whatever reason, not to participate --

by tom's logic,
the majority of voters have almost NEVER voted for the winner - this is one of those "figures don't lie, but liars figure" statements -

and, well, it's also a post of ignorance, as there is no such thing as a national popular vote - only the EC elects presidents -- and shockingly, that's been 100% for roughly 240 years

tom math perturbations are correct, the MAJORITY of eligible voters never vote for the winner, as we tend to run 55-57% voter participation rate, well, basically, since tracking

08 February 2025, 22:48

jeffeosso

Well, I guess the population ignored these same signals from the dems in 1860 -- well, live and learn

if the GOP had said AND DONE these things, there'd be rioting in the streets -- well, THAT phrase has lost it's meaning over time, hasn't it

09 February 2025, 03:29

Scott King

The pretzel you twist yourself into is humorous.

160 million did not vote for Trump.

Ill give you the last word, contort yourself some more.

09 February 2025, 03:55

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
I don't see the problem. I m certain the next Democrat president will pardon them all.

There's no downside to insurrection and political violence, ask any 1/6 convict and they'll tell you that. I expect Trump's opponents to take full advantage of the precedent Trump set.

I'll sit up and take notice when my conservative peers take law and order seriously again. Let me know.

You are assuming there will be another Democrat president. If GOPers have their way, there won't be.

I don't expect Trump's opponents to do anything of the sort likewise regarding the precedent Trump set. I expect them to abide the rule of law. There is one precedent they might take advantage of, however. That was set by SCOTUS re exec immunity, if not impunity.

Okay, you can sit up now and take notice. Your conservative peers are taking law and order seriously, fascist style. Otherwise, they wouldn't be attacking the rule of law and flipping the script narratives and cheering the pardoning of the 1/6 criminals/hostages and attacking checks and balance institutional features in general. They know darn well that Trump is interested in cultivating his own supportive militia, on call, waiting for the signal, all outside the law and accountability.

They spent a lot of political capital on the lawfare lie narrative, which supports several other lie narratives and false equivalences. Now, within this thread we see the preemptive justifications narrative in the bud for when Trump unleashes the military on civilians. After all, that's the ultimate show of fascist power. Like so many other rationalizations, they throw the blame on the left - look what you made me do - they did it first so now we're justified.

If Tom's numbers are correct, 163 million Americans didn't vote for Trump, 79 million did vote for Trump.

I think there'll be another Democrat president.

they aren't -
77 million voted FOR trump
75 million voted for harris

second highest voter turn out in recent history -

those that choose to not vote aren't in the count - they decided, for whatever reason, not to participate --

by tom's logic,
the majority of voters have almost NEVER voted for the winner - this is one of those "figures don't lie, but liars figure" statements -

and, well, it's also a post of ignorance, as there is no such thing as a national popular vote - only the EC elects presidents -- and shockingly, that's been 100% for roughly 240 years

tom math perturbations are correct, the MAJORITY of eligible voters never vote for the winner, as we tend to run 55-57% voter participation rate, well, basically, since tracking

I am aware of the non-participation rate. I can't speak for the nonparticipants, but I will say that it's been awhile since there was a good enough set of choices for a lot people to take off work to vote.

Still and all, Trump did not get quite a third of the eligible voters to vote for him. I don't see a mandate there.

Just a number, subject to interpretation...

And between you and I, as a low-time VFR pilot I have a lot of respect for naval aviators.

09 February 2025, 05:02

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by TomP:

I am aware of the non-participation rate. I can't speak for the nonparticipants, but I will say that it's been awhile since there was a good enough set of choices for a lot people to take off work to vote.

Still and all, Trump did not get quite a third of the eligible voters to vote for him. I don't see a mandate there.

Just a number, subject to interpretation...

And between you and I, as a low-time VFR pilot I have a lot of respect for naval aviators.

i stand by this statement

quote:
the majority of voters have almost NEVER voted for the winner

same

quote:
And between you and I, as a low-time VFR pilot I have a lot of respect for naval aviators.

today, for a president to get ~50% of the popular vote (which means very little) they would need something like 120million votes ( i didn't do the math, just a finger in the wind)

312-226
or 31-19
is a blowout win

EC and number of states won - popular vote doesn't select a president in our constitution