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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36175817/ "Overall, quantitative data showed acceptance of "pedophile/hebephile" as well as a range of alternative labels in a personal (Labeling Oneself) and a professional context (Being Labeled by Others). "Minor-attracted person" and "pedophile/hebephile" received generally higher support than other terms and appeared to be least divisive across three major online fora." Just do a little reading, Mike. Some of the LGBTQ movement is actively mainstreaming pedophilia, calling it "minor attracted" in order to dull the stigma. Books like 'A Long Dark Shadow' attempt to make pedophilia acceptable just as homosexuality and gender fluidity is already. Here's a decent overview and critique of that particular book. https://clcjbooks.rutgers.edu/...-pursuit-of-dignity/ I agree that certain people are attracted to minors and that it is a mental disorder, maybe even one that can be treated successfully. However, making the proclivity more socially acceptable as long as they don't act on their sexual urges is a tough needle to thread. I don't know of any example where acceptance of a particular inclination led to less of it, do you? | |||
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You're the one that needs to do a little reading and you can start with the article you linked. There's not one word in there that supports your assertion. Nothing. The study relates to people who have already displayed pedophile tendencies and the word transgender appears nowhere that I saw. If you look at the statistics of those convicted of sexual offenses with children, 90% are older white males, age 40-70. Not transgender. And, nobody is trying to make pedophilia acceptable except a few fucking nuts. Good god, with all the shit that transgender people have to take off bigots like you, do you really think they're all out there advocating pedophilia too? That is just nuts and there's no support for the assertion that it is anything but nuts. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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https://www.usatoday.com/story...disorder/8768423002/ Here, on one hand, there is scientific evidence to support that pedophiles are "born that way" or maybe even develop the disorder through brain trauma or other factors. Then, on the other hand, the "born that way" claim is key to forcing society to accept the normalization of homosexuality and gender fluidity, right? Interestingly, the egregious nature and illegality of victimizing a child keeps it taboo for now but there are current efforts to gradually normalize it - even by elected representatives. Cases in point: A transgender state lawmaker in Minnesota introduced a measure that would remove language from the state's Human Rights Act that currently declares pedophiles are not included in protections based on "sexual orientation." https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bil...023&session_number=0 CA Democrats Author Bill to Protect Sex Offenders Who Lure Minors https://californiaglobe.com/le...ers-who-lure-minors/ This just about sums it up: https://www.centromachiavelli....ilia-overton-window/ | |||
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Given the nature of the forum we are in, im not positive thats correct. Everyone here seems to be presenting their opinion of what they feel is the correct path. | |||
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Hypocrisy here, no? Lane pushes traditional Christian values and you push modern social conformism. You both are doing the same act, and you are both convinced you are right. Both sides have some serious flaws, especially when being enforced by zealots.
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The only thing I'm pushing is equal and fair treatment for everybody and taking the position that all or even a significant number of transgender people are pedophiles or have pedophilic tendencies or that they want to normalize pedophilia is bullshit. All of this goes to the statement I made the other day: transgender issues have replaced abortion for the far right whackos. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Yep, thats what i see too. | |||
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Ive genuinely missed where this was said. Can you save me the effort of reading through it all to find that statement? What I have seen outside this forum is that there is a small group that is aligning itself with the lbgtq community that do wish to normalise such. Elon Musk made a point yesterday of banning such a person from Twitter and saying not here, never here. | |||
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Did anybody here ever claim that? Don't think so. | |||
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Actually, no. My premise is pretty much always the same, mind your own damn business. Something that is a foreign concept to Lane. I couldn't care less how he worships, or what he does in the privacy of his home. The same cannot be said for Lane, in this very thread he happily admitted to wanting to bring Jesus to everyone, whether they want it or not. Hardly the same Dr. Butler and I think you can see the difference as well. | |||
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Proselytizing is how a religion virus spreads itself. Viruses spread by replicating themselves. About 2,000 years ago, a particular religion, Judaism, underwent a mutation that gave it a tremendous advantage over other religions: it acquired the ability and directive to proselytize. Christianity, and later Islam, were born. It's no accident that the two largest (in terms of number of adherents) religions in the world are proselytizing religions. When Lane expresses a desire to convert non-Christians, he's just acting in accordance with the dictates of the virus that infects him. Recognize the virus for what it is, Lane, and free yourself. | |||
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If I painted with too broad a brush, I apologize. What are you claiming? -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Exactly…it is the Political Forum. I doubt that in real-life that many here lead a more libertarian lifestyle than I. I live and let live. If someone asks me for help of if I am in a debate with willing participants (here)…I certainly express my views. Otherwise…I live and let live. I certainly vote my views and expect everyone else to do the same. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Libertarian? Really? Libertarians do not advocate for religion brought to you via the Government, that is what fundamentalists do. From the libertarian party website: "as Libertarians, we all fundamentally respect each other’s rights to worship and live our lives as we choose and to make sure the government stays out of it." https://www.lp.org/what-religion-are-libertarians/ That is not you Lane, you repeatedly advocate for using the Government to cram Christianity down the throats of the unwilling. Just be honest about your positions, there is nothing Libertarian about them. | |||
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Roland, Thank you kindly for your concern. I am suffering no infection. In fact, I suffer none at all. The teachings of Christ are nothing but good. I am a poor student and fail miserably often. But, life continuously reminds me of the validity of His word. Jesus tells us to spread the good news. But. I purely enjoy seeing the light come on for the lost who finally see the path. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Exactly what part of Christianity do I advocate government to cram down anyone’s throat?  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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My point was that masks were not the mechanism to control the pandemic. My hypothesis was that they would make no statistical difference in the outcome. I was proven correct. I am a surgeon — an orthopedic surgeon. I wear a mask and PPE more than most. I was educated in the science of their efficacy and sat for boards with questions on the topic. I understand their benefits AND their limits. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Have you forgotten the School prayer discussion that you started? That would be a prime example..... Your position on abortion would be another. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Lane, You are 100% right. Abortion for any reason and in any morality is murder. On masks - you are correct and the world fell for the trap of "this will save you". Masks are useless unless used correctly. School prayer - really? You can't pray in school? 1st amendment says free speech even if you are talking to God. Further, The "lack of organized religion" in schools has really hur the education system. Same as trannies teaching sex ed... The world is beyond upside down - it is inside out where people call "evil" as good and good as evil. And if the libs here want a definition of what is "good" - that is the problem. Evil is easy, good is not. | |||
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He is trying to get government to codify in law his religious views, and punish those who do not follow them. Lawrence v Texas directly rejects his rationale as a basis for passing law. The teacher must lead the approved prayer in class. The students must participate. Students must say the pledge (he equates that with a religious view point a righteous act sanctioned by GIF for a state founded in God). Your love between to consenting adults is a crime. Your marriage between two consenting adults is hereby void by the state. How I feel so any scriptural reference to anchor my position about birth should Trump women’s rights to the extent No abortion regardless of facts shall be performed or the state will punish you. Gay people are abominations. Marriage equality is the ruin of the nation. This, the state must change and enact those my outlet religious founded objections. | |||
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Exactly! | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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What I know about your thought process is what you have shared with this board, you are not a Libertarian but rather a religious fundamentalist, very different no matter what you claim. | |||
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What I am claiming is that many of the theories on the genesis of homosexuality and transgenderism are the same for pedophilia. It's the slippery slope which we will just either sit by and watch happen or we can have honest and critical discussions about. | |||
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More "Libertarian" thoughts Lane would agree with: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...31187aec5e6326&ei=62 Rep. Lauren Boebert Lists What Patriots Should Be Willing To Do And... It’s Something Story by Lee Moran • 5h ago ================================================ BTW, MTG also shares Lane's views. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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That has been rejected by a consensus of medicine. | |||
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you have no idea of such- NOR does the AMA, the AFP, AAP, etc DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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I wonder, what makes something a religion? Is it simply the notion that it is a religion because someone says it is? Is the LGBTQ movement any less of a religion than, say, Atheism? Atheism is treated as a religion under Constitutional law. Why is it OK to force young students to sit through lessons discussing what they may believe is sinful? Why is it OK to display a Pride flag in the classroom which is offensive to some of the students? I see often here on the ARPF that there is such revolt over pushing this or that religion, theory, belief, or whatever, on other people with almost zero recognition that the street runs both ways. | |||
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Oh really? So, which one, the Homosexual or the Minor Attracted, was "born that way" and which one is a choice? | |||
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The whys and hows of homosexuality and gender dysphoria are continually scientifically debated. The decisions made that they are variants of normal were political. They changed very abruptly. It went from a statistical determination of normal to a moral/political one. Go read the minutes of the meetings involved if you want to (and can find them). You can’t argue the statistics show LBGTQ+ are not normal. The moral argument is very different, and frankly, in the absence of an effective and safe treatment, declaring it a variant of normal is probably the moral thing to do. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Dylan Mulvaney calls for the arrest of people who call him a man. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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You complain about transsexuals, when you can't even decide if you're a canine or a feline? | |||
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Thanks for clarifying your actual views on masks. But I don't know what you mean by "statistical difference in the outcome." If a mask prevents me from getting the disease, how would your statistics account for it? | |||
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I stand by my statement that you have never seen a 60 day HUMAN fetus struggle for life. Are you saying that you have? If so, you are more full of shit than I could have ever imagined. | |||
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Statistics are best applied to large groups. Statistics have been applied in this situation by 1) the comparison of infection rates before and after mask implementation in areas, locations, or venues; 2) the comparison of infection rates throughout the whole pandemic in similar states (or municipalities of countries) with strong mask mandates and compliance (CA) to states with no mandates and low mask implementation (TX); and 3) in prospective studies where large groups of similar participants engaged in similar activities in similar venues with and without mask implementation. You would account for a tiny data point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The other side is that masks only work for large particles. In surgery, the point is that it is to stop the egress of bacteria from the surgeon's mouth and nose into the operative site. They were proven to reduce the number of postoperative wound infections. The theoretical use of a mask for general use is that it would stop large water droplets from going to person to person, but that neglects that unless you are actively sick, there really isn't much of that being expelled... For ICU or isolation precautions for viral illnesses, you are talking about multiple systems working together. A mask is useless against viruses. There you need a respirator (N95 is considered minimal.) You need full body coverage (gown, gloves, cap, face shield/goggles, etc.) and then you need to follow protocols involving not touching anything unnecessarily and not with unprotected parts, then removing and discarding all the items (after each contact) and then washing immediately thereafter. The monster in the room was that the ID specialists knew this, but were OK with breaking it in the name of costs and "being seen as doing something". If you have a cough (for whatever reason) or sneezing, then, yes, it makes sense for you (the source of the exposure) to wear a mask to prevent giving exposure to others. If you are wanting to be paranoid, you can either wear a mask or not get within about 6 feet of others (which is what most interactions would be the limit of the macroparticles spreading to others would be. aka social distancing.) | |||
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You'll advocate for a zygote but you don't say shit about the eight year old kid that got shot in the head yesterday by that AR everybody should have. Nothing needs to be done about that, right? -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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