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and helluva a good guy!  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | ||
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Shouldn't you be figuring out your response to this rather than posting up imaginary shit relating to my neighbors? https://forums.accuratereloadi...3811043/m/7331095972 -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Who is a helluva good guy? Trump?? The grab em by the pussy, I could shoot a guy on 5th Avenue, sexual assaulter, philanderer, convicted felon? That guy?That guy?? Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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The neighbor is the helluva good guy. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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I was speaking of Cable Smith. The owner of Lonestar Outdoor Show, sign displayer, and all around good guy.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I read an article recently about how real estate property values were affected by neighbor's yard signs, especially TRUMP and other ideological affinities. The more signs the greater in the devaluation of adjacent property up for sale. The implication of course is the potential buyer should know in advance what kind of nutz his neighbors are and can he get along. I suspect a Trump supporter will get along in most well-to-do Texas neighborhoods. ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Lane, Always remember there are plenty of folks right here in the AR PF that fully support Red Flag laws and an AWB. I guess they figure that once the Government can find a way around the 2nd & 4th Amendment , their firearms will somehow be safe. | |||
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Bingo. Now there's the problem.  ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Yessir, it is on display here every day. But Trump’s a fascist, racist, misogynist, and all-around mean guy……  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I don't support an AWB and it will never happen. Not in my lifetime and not with our current SCOTUS. As for red flag laws, let's define it before we talk about it: Red flag laws, also known as Extreme Risk Protection Order laws, are civil proceedings that allow a person to petition a judge to temporarily remove a person's firearms if they are considered a threat to themselves or others. The laws are modeled after domestic violence restraining orders (DVROs). So, we're talking about a legal proceeding, with due process accorded to the target of the proceeding, where a court makes a determination as to whether a gun owner's firearms should be take from him as a result of violent or threatening behavior on the part of the gun owner. Explain to me why this is a bad thing? And, you left out the fact that trump is, in addition to all those things you note, a seditionist. I know you want to ignore that but some of us can't and will not. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Due process that has already been held constitutional by the A. Ct., majority in a Red Flag Law proceeding being EPO/DVOs. | |||
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What do you mean it can’t happen? A number of states have them. A number of states have magazine bans. Harris and Walz insist they will pass one. One of the prices of freedom is eternal vigilance. Unfortunately we don’t have either side fully behind freedom.
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In my home state someone can walk in and file a complaint against me. The police can come and take my firearms and I have to prove I did nothing wrong to HOPEFULLY get them back. That's how it works where I live so I don't give a shit what the SC said, if I can have my possessions taken before I have my day in court and face my accuser the SC can kiss my backside. I have seen you post this same response in the past so I see you support it. | |||
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Doc, you are correct and my post was wrong. There are some states (7 or 8?) that have banned assault weapons and/or normal/high cap magazines. My bad. I guess that like abortion now, states get to decide. I was talking about a federal ban. I just don't think it is going to happen. Is electing a seditionist going to change that? -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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No right is absolute. The original intent was to permit states to pass laws that restricted your right to access firearms as the legislature saw fit. You can go straddle a Billie goat. State bans are on the worse ground. Most of those cases were upheld before the most recent NY care. McDonald and Heller was clear weapons in common use are not subject to bans. Every case the S. Ct., majority has struck down was a de facto ban. | |||
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Like Gundog…where it concerns guns…I have very little faith in the court system. With guns…they work on the “guilty until proven innocent theory.” With guns and speech…I operate on the don’t ever give an inch philosophy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Red Flag Laws are nothing but a stupid communist era extremist rule! You lot have taken these stupid rules to new heights! Take a man reported to have illegal guns. SWAT breaks into his home in the early hours?? Why can’t they talk to him in his office, and arrest him if necessary? Common s. Which no longer exists in America! Kamala or Trump??  | |||
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You need me to hold him still for you? | |||
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So if it happens after your lifetime it's OK? You may not personally support a AWB, but you already have, or are going to vote for politicians who do support it and have made that support quite public. They also want to pack the SC with Liberal judges who will make decisions based not on the Constitution, but whatever the flavor of the day is, so you just might live to see the day. What do you think the decision on a AWB would be if the SC was made up of just Kagen, Sotomayor, and Brown? | |||
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I think folks that allow their vote to be controlled solely by a candidate's position on the 2nd Amendment, particularly something as narrow as restrictions on assault-style weapons, are frankly a bit dense. When you look at all the issues facing this country, I have to say that my ability to walk into a gun shop and walk out with an AR, or to be able to purchase a high capacity magazine, dim in light of other priorities. In fact, I think that mandatory background checks, red flag laws, heightened review and/or waiting periods for assault-style weapons and high capacity magazines may well make sense. We hear the same rhetoric every election cycle, they are coming to take your guns away, please send a check for $100 to the NRA. Frankly the more we fight reasonable limitations on access to firearms, particularly those types used in the now commonplace mass shootings, it just makes it more likely that we end up with some far more draconian legislation or regulations down the line. Mike | |||
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You are right Mike. There are so many reasons to vote against any Democrat for executive control that an AWB is down my list as well. But with guns and speech…I advocate a “never give an inch” approach. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Mike, I'm not a single issue voter, but the 2nd.Amenment is very important to me. What I have a hard time understanding when I hear gun owners advocating for restrictions on gun ownership. The left will never stop until they are all gone, hell Feinstein said it herself a few years ago. Why do people think the Govt. will place a certain amount of restrictions and then stop there and go no further? Look at the law Massachusetts just passed, thats the road ahead for all of us, and it is not going to stop there. When was the last time you saw the left give anything back? They always want us to "compromise" and give things up, but never get anything in return. | |||
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Never give an inch. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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so, single issue voting is "a bit dense" -- even when it's on an actual constitutional right -- How do your "conversations" go with women, when you tell them that they are dense for being single issue voters? hmmm... tell us your opinion on other single issues .. oh, that's different? with dems, it ALWAYS is mikey - blink twice if you are still suffering from stockholm syndrome opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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It's ok with me if it happens after my lifetime, it'll be their decision, not mine. I'd think it's a priority for you and me to make sure our offspring can and will take care of themselves. They should be familiar with their liberties, retain control and make decisions for themselves. What rights they choose to retain or exercise is up to them and if they see fit to restrict them that's it I guess. I think it's more important for our kids understand that retaining or loosing rights is their decision, they have the authority. | |||
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Scott, I appreciate your well thought out reply, I notice it is also lacking insults which are all to common. While I agree with what you said, I feel too many people now don't see to care much for what their right really are or mean to their future life. Our schools are a mess and the standard response is "more money". When I was in school I did not know any of my teacher political affiliation, I fear that is a rarity today. I can only hope that parents DO teach their children about our freedoms here in the US and what it would mean if they are lost, or voted away.We need to fight for our rights so we can pass them along to our children. | |||
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Many here seem to assume that an AWB is something that I should fear and be outraged over. WHY? It would have literally zero effect on my life. Never owned one, never wanted one, don't own anything that holds over five rounds. I lived through an AWB in the past and was not bothered by it in the least. The militarization of our gun culture and the proliferation of AR's has not been beneficial to American gun owners in my mind. Carry on with the doom and gloom and fear tactics. | |||
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so, not even a revolver? a 22? a pistol? heck, in the 1911 holds more than 5 opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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None of the above. Mostly falling block rifles, percussion guns, a few double shotguns and rifles. The bolt guns are there begrudgingly. Building up some scoped falling blocks with plans to relegate the bolt guns to extremely infrequent use. I have owned semi-auto .22 rifles and revolvers in the past. It ain't what trips everyone's trigger but it works for me. My only handgun:  | |||
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. . . a statement that is virtually impossible to rebut. Mike | |||
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When for 20 years you send young men of to war…they come back liking what they shot. The younger generation always like more modern things anyway. An AR is simply a practical rifle to them. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Another negative side effect of the war in Afghanistan, maybe? I see the firearms industry, of which I am a part of, as every bit as culpable. No matter how you slice it, American gun owners are not better off for the change. | |||
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I dimly remember reading something that P.O,. Ackley had to say about the matter... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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And I dimly remember some decades ago, Handgun Control Incorporated stating publicly that they were only interested in Saturday Night Specials, and would never bother long gun owners. I do not think they will ever state "Mission Accomplished" and disband their fundraising efforts. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Steve, This is exactly the apathy I see, "hey who cares it does not affect me" until someday it will and by then it will be to late. You really should look at the law Massachusetts just passed, it goes FAR beyond the accepted idea of a AWB. It's not "doom and gloom" the left is very vocal about all of this if you open your eyes and ears. | |||
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None of which would be politically possible if the Right did not push so hard for the acceptance and proliferation of AR's and AW's. We have seen the enemy, and it is us. Our own insistence in pushing weapons of war as mainstream has allowed the left to accomplish things like the the law in Mass and the recent ones passed here in CO. These battles are won be convincing the middle we are correct and we are losing....because of AW's and AR's as well as the current gun culture, all of which turn off a great many people. | |||
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I think we've agreed here before that the Right and the NRA need to go on the offensive here with mandatory gun safety/ gun education in school, subsidized firearm lockers, etc.... I think we need to be out front instead of screaming No! from behind. | |||
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I use AR type guns quite a bit. I use an AR pistol as my main deer gun mainly because I live in a shotgun zone but handguns are ok. I’ve used AR rifles for a “Truck gun” while maintaining my property. I’ve used them for varmint hunting. I’ve used them in competitive type shooting (3 gun, uspsa, idpa, PRC type shooting, and service rifle shooting) One is my home defense type rifle. I did train with an M16 in ROTC. So I can’t see how you can say there is no need for them. Just because one can accomplish everything one needs a gun to do with a spear, knife, or slingshot doesn’t make them as useful. Now, do I usually use a bolt action rifle for hunting? Yes. Doesn’t mean an AR can’t do the job, or that in some circumstances the AR is a more effective choice. Near as I can tell, passing laws hasn’t stopped crimes despite them being illegal. I see gun bans as being an attempt to stop something by making folks who are not the problem be inconvenienced or worse, and that the ban would not stop the crimes. As MM has pointed out in the past, there are too many out there to get rid of them, so a ban is just feelgoodism. Widespread shootings didn’t occur in the more distant past despite more availability of guns, so the question is what changed? It’s not guns or availability … | |||
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