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If you come across a snake while out and about, do you kill it or let it go? Does poisonous or not make a difference? Does being with Jeff Corwin make a difference? | ||
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Man I hate snakes but I usually let them go unless it's a rattler near the house or a work site. ______________________ Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. | |||
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I let all non-poisonous snakes go unless they're on the front porch or similar and won't be displaced. I'm like dempsey, I let poisonous snakes go in general unless they're near my home, shop, or working area. OTOH I've got a buddy who doesn't care, any snake is a dead snake around him. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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The only snake I never let live is a cotton mouth (which I'm sure is not abundant in MT). They can be aggressive and will actually chase you. I also have a landscaping business, and it is my policy that we do not allow any snakes in flower beds to live. When the poisonous ones are babies, they look fairly innocuous, but are extremely toxic. | |||
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Not too many poisonous snakes here in WI, a few timber rattlers although I've never found one... I kind of like snakes, probably from my childhood days of catching and playing with them a bit. I make a point to let them live, even go out of my way to do so. My wife on the other hand HATES them all, but she's too afraid to try and kill them, so they go free too . Shoot straight, shoot often. Matt | |||
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Here in NY state all snakes are protected !If you have little kids and there are rattlers or copperheads around the house then some SSS.There is no reason to kill a harmless snake ! | |||
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does this include the elected snakes?? | |||
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I kill all Copperheads and Rattlers. 45 birdshot is very effective. | |||
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IMHO Jeff Corwin will probably end up like Steve Irwin, but I think snakes are fine. I don't particularly care for water varieties - poisonous or not. They are generally smelly and bad tempered compared to upland varieties. I grew up in rattlesnake country and I rarely killed them. I have to admit that there were a couple of western diamondback hatbands - and they do sorta taste like chicken. "No game is dangerous unless a man is close up" Teddy Roosevelt 1885. | |||
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I live in an area with one of the most poisonous snakes in the world, the common or eastern brown snake, 12x more venomous than a cobra. They are very prolific in the spring and summer months. They are not much to look at but these things can KILL you or at the least leave you with permanent damage to liver and kidneys. I generally leave then alone if I see them around, but if they are near the house then it's out with the 410 and 1/2oz of No.9's, no hesitations. | |||
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Since I have animals, including ducks I kill every snake I see on my place. In the last 3 weeks I have killed 2 six footers, my wife killed one six footer, all on dry land. I have shot several in my pond, 3 a few days ago, one today. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I leave them alone unless it'a a big cottonmouth. Fire ants & cattle are hard enough on them. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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If I see a poisnonous snake, it dies. Where I live we have rattlesnakes, water moccasins, copperheads, and I have seen three coral snakes in my lifetime. I don't want my wife or one of my dogs being snakebit. | |||
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Cotton mouths, copperheads and coral snakes all die and I bury the heads. Rattlesnakes, I bury their heads, too, but I eat the rest. Willie B | |||
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We only have copperheads and coral snakes around here. Too wet for rattlers and too brackish for cotton mouths. I leave 'em alone unless they move up close to the house, then I have to think about the two year old grandaughter. All my dogs get snakebit sooner or later. They're too good at finding snakes. They swell up for a day and by day three they're back to hunting in the yard again. But after they get bitten the first time, they develop a passion for hunting snakes. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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We have allot of large bull snakes at my farm in E Texas. We also have allot field rats and mice so I leave the bull snakes alone. I do have grand children around poking into all sorts of areas when we are down there so I keep a couple acres around my place mowed very low. The hawks take care of most of the problem. I too kill all cotton mouths (vile snake!). I am not so sure our healthy hog population puts a dent in them as well. | |||
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Times must be tough in your part of Texas. I've got a funny story about eating snakes. Just after I bought my first tract up here, I had a fencing crew of 3 guys from my family area of E Tx staying with me in a shack that was all that was on the ranch. I went to look at another piece of property and picked up a fresh killed timber rattler on the road (still moving when I picked him up......carefully). Fair sized about 5 feet long......at any rate, got back to the shack with him, skinned him out that evening for the hide, and put him on ice. Told everyone we'd have him for breakfast. One of the two young guys was a heckuva hunter and outdoorsman, and he was tough as nails, would fight a buzz saw and spot it two turns, but he was deathly afraid of snake, and I do mean "DEATHLY". At any rate, we fried up the rattlesnake the next morning, and then fried some french fries in the same skillet and grease. Not only wouldn't the kid eat any of the snake, but he wouldn't even eat any of the fries......looked at us kind of like we were vampires for eating that snake. No one wanted to try to make him eat any tho, I can tell you that...... xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I've avoided killing any snakes for years, but have only come across a couple of rattlers, a few copperheads and cottonmouths in the past 5-6 years, and none near the house. We did kill a black mamba and a boomslange in Africa a few years ago, and a Yararaca (fer-de-lance) in Argentina, but it wasn't my idea in any of these. I would have to be hungrier than I've ever been to want to eat a snake. I have some snake tongs and hooks, and there are no children around, so no need to kill the ones around here. Here's some pix from the past month: common Green snake black rat-snake Red milk-snake 2007 Yarara, Argentina boomslange Mamba black mouth of black mamba Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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Although it is possible the snake you're holding is a fer de lance, the name "yarara" in Argentina is usually, stress usually, since locals can misname or call a snake anything they want, used for Bothrops jararaca, which is a smaller relative of the fer-de-lance (barba amarilla, yellow beard) Bothrops atrox. I'm not a herpetologist but I have a relatively interesting story about how I learned about the yarara. It was my first dove hunting trip to Argentina, way back in the early 80s, and my buddy and I were the first Americans who had ever hunted doves in this area. As "explorers" for dove hunting, we made do with what the segundo could find in the way of bird boys. My "boys" were a father and son team, about 60 and maybe 40 or so, who had no idea of how to pick up birds or why anyone in their right mind would want to. I was shooting behind a wire fence next to a deeply cut creek or small river......after a few minutes, it was obvious that my "boys" were more of a hindrance than a help. Nowadays, of course, they use counters and don't try to pick anything up until the shooting is over. I spoke decent conversational Spanish at that time, so I told them to go over there, sit down and bring me more cartuchos when I needed them, which was quite often (shot well over 2000 shells that morning), and a beer now and then. I was shooting at a furious pace, hundreds of shells and hour. After a while, I tired out a bit and it was working towards lunch time, so I quit shooting and told them to start picking up birds. In front of the fence was a milo field and they went to town picking up piles of doves. Since the birds had been flying into, out of, and across the field, there were a bunch of dead doves behind me down the creek bank, hanging on dead limbs, etc. My "boys" didn't go get any of them. I asked them why didn't they get their lazy butts down there and get those doves? "No, senor, we don't go down there." "Porque?" "The yarara lives there." I asked what was a jarara? A bad snake. "Humph", I said, "No tengo miedo de serpentes." (I'm not afraid of snakes.) and went down there and threw a hundred or so birds up on the top of the creek bank. Meantime, those two were leaning on the fence, watching me exactly like a couple of buzzards waiting for something to die. After a few minutes I thought, "Hell, we aren't going to do anything with thousands of doves anyway, what am I doing, dumbass?" So I quit and we started back to the lunch area. On the way I had what was some of the neatest shooting I've ever had, found a high point on a tall bluff overlooking the same creek and from there I was shooting straight down on doves flying just above water level, probably 35 yards or so. It was really neat, could see pattern hit, or miss, doves. Instant feedback. At any rate, we get back to lunch, where they are, not surprisingly to those who've been there, cooking beef and sausages. I told the story about the boys and the jarara on the creek bank and asked if the snake was as bad as they said. The cook's brother, an older fellow, held up his hand and the little finger was missing.....to make a long story short, he was hunting perdiz, got bitten, and, according to him, immediately shot his finger off to prevent the poison from spreading. This all happened quickly and smoothly, no grins, none of the stuff that normally goes on when they're BSing a gringo. Whether it was true or not, I have no way of knowing, but I quit picking up doves from that point on...... xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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You are correct about the bothrops jararaca being a smaller relative of bothrops atrox, and this is definitely a bothrops jararaca--you know your snakes. I should have had said "lance-head" rather than "fer-de-lance". Very interesting story about shooting down at doves, excellent way to gage your lead, too. The head gaucho on our buffalo hunt also had a withered hand from the bite of the Yarara'. Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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My Kenyan friend leave all snakes alone unless the snake happens to come for breakfast ie. crawler right next to where i sit in the am for chia and toast. 6 ft'er my camp cook and head askari disided that it was to friendly and went after it. It got way three time would not leave camp. pickens where to good lizard population dropped off alot the guys did not like the way this snake acted.( i'd did not know a snake could act) ahahhahahaha. three days later after it had come back to camp twice they killed it. one guy i know was afraid to run over it with his car he was afaid it would come through the window at him. This guy kill a mamba aprox. 9 ft long a wk before just out side the camp | |||
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Kill them all , let the snake god sort them out | |||
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Most Non-Venomous snakes I let go about their business unless I catch them in my bird pens eating eggs or birds. Venomous snakes are not as lucky. On the ranch where I do my Javelina hunts, if I have clients in on a hunt and can find and kill a rattler or two, I will fry it up for them. Never had anyone turn it down and have had a couple of folks that wanted more to eat, if we could get them, before they left the ranch headed home. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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If its a chicken snake I catch it then let it go. If its poisonious its a dead snake. Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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Nancy Pelosi...? On sight? Warning first? "When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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I thought this thread was going to be about golf... | |||
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The wife and I got home about midnight on the 4th of July, after a BBQ party at some friends. She went out to check on our ducks... My phone rang.... When I answered I heard, "Bring the shotgun... SNAKE. So I grabbed my 18.5" 20ga double and went out the back door [it has a Surefire flash light taped to it]. I shot a 5 foot 9 inch Texas Rat Snake. When I "hunt" DG I always use a Double. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I usually don't kill snakes, but as I have a young grandson now, I've taken to killing the poisonious ones around the house. | |||
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Kill them all and let God sort them out! | |||
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