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Just shot this one this morning about 200 yards from the farmhouse. Sorry for the hole, he jumped out about fifty yards away, caught my scent and headed almost straight away, shot him just in front of his hip and the bullet exited his forehead. That is pretty good penetration, and is why I still like to use the TSX for deer, at least if you are trophy hunting and don't like to pass up bad angles. Used my POS, but good shooting, beat up and lucky Ruger 7x57 and 140 TSX. Not really anything special, just a nice mature older buck, with not very special genetics.   A shot not taken is always a miss | ||
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Nice representative trophy...some nice mass in the antlers Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Nice represntaive trophy...some nice mass in the antlers Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Nice representative trophy...some nice mass in the antlers Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Very nice. He obviously went instaneously down in a heap! Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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That's great! What are the odds that the bullet could transit the whole body and exit between the eyes? Too funny. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Here's one of my brother's bow kill this year.  A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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Very Nice, congradulations  _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Fjold He certainly didn't travel far, about 24 inches down. He was in some tall grass, and in a little fold in the hillside, all I could see was the tops of his antlers. It was a typical whitetail shot, had about a second from first sight to first shot, couldn't even see him pile up because of the grass. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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Heck of a shot on a nice buck! FN in MT 'I'm tryin' to think, but nothin' happens"! Curly Howard Definitive Stooge | |||
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I rather object to your description of a Ruger 7x57 as a POS. If you will, please refer to the outstanding cartridge in a very fine action as " A well suited to the task," firearm. Very happy for you and your success! | |||
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That sure is something about all that penetration. Right nice Buck too. Congratulations on a fine Kill. | |||
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Scott That was said very 'tongue in cheek' because of all the Ruger bashing I hear. This old 7x57 would be the last rifle I would ever get rid of, even though I have a lot of nice ones it is the one that has consistently flattened game from elk in Wy. to kudu in Namibia, and a trailer load of Missouri whitetails. I don't hunt with it as much anymore because my son usually grabs it. He pretty much believes it to be the absolute bark of death, but he was in college so I took it out as I had not been seeing many bucks. The morning I shot this one, I never saw a doe- six bucks. I also have shot it so much that a running deer doesn't have much of a chance if under 200 yards, it is just a natural. It also shoots 3 shots in .6-.7 triangles till you are just tired of it- so boring. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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Congrats on a TERRIFIC buck! Your brother bagged a wonderful whitetail as well. If you guys get together for the holidays, there will be some edge-of-your-seat story telling going around...  Bobby Μολὼν λαβέ The most important thing in life is not what we do but how and why we do it. - Nana Mouskouri | |||
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Nice buck. And that is pretty good penetration. | |||
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We were lucky to grow up in a hunting family, so there is never a shortage of stories whenever we're together. We need someone else to tell stories to, already heard all of each other's. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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I never thought otherwise Mr Stevens and I was only teasing also. Best Regards! | |||
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Nice deer, congrats! I gave them things up though. I arrowed a very large gray haired buck in Ohio years ago. He was so strong and tough I went and bought a pressure cooker just for him. I marinated for days, and pressure cooked the meat. No way to chew the nasty tasting meat. I gave it away and made some enemies! I have not used the pressure cooker in over 30 years now. | |||
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This one will be sausage and jerky. I have three antlerless tags to shoot some young does for steaks. I think I'll grind up even the loins. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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Those are two nice deer. I'm surprised you were able to take him with a 7x57 and the TSX??  You are lucky to be able to hunt your own land. That is becoming more rare each year........ Good Hunting, Bob There is room for all of God's creatures....right next to the mashed potatoes. http://texaspredatorposse.ipbhost.com/   | |||
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Best thing to do. I also like the fact you use a good old rifle and not one of the super, duper, whiz bang magnums. A sure sign of confidence and a good shot. I respect a man that knows his rifle.  | |||
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My cousin killed a similar buck near you.  Jason | |||
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