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15 September 2008, 18:44
Doc
POTENTIAL NEW WORLD RECORD ANTELOPE (AND NICE MULIE TOO)
Dr. David Meyers shot an AZ antelope that may eclipse his current world record that is tied at 95 B&C. Word is he purchased both governor tags this year and is going to wait until next year to fill his second tag.

The unofficial score is being kept a secret until after the 60 day drying period.

He's all ready bagged a monster mule deer on the strip this year with a governor tag and supposedly has a governor tag for elk as well.








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15 September 2008, 18:49
David Culpepper
Those are a couple of monsters!!


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15 September 2008, 18:52
AKsheephunter
WOW!!!
15 September 2008, 18:53
graybird
FREAKS!!


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15 September 2008, 18:55
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15 September 2008, 18:59
SGraves155
I would have loved to see the mulie during the rut. Monster goat.


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15 September 2008, 19:05
TheBigGuy
Simply unbelievable!!!

I never would have even tried to venture a guess that an antelope could achieve triple digit scores. That one could very well score over 100 inches! Hugely long horns, tremendously heavy with gigantic cutters. What a brute!

Absolutely outstanding!

That muley is the kind you could accidently put an elk tag on!

Simply fabulous specimens.
15 September 2008, 19:12
Doc
And to think I lived in AZ for 3 full hunting seasons and only hunted Coues!

CRYBABY CRYBABY CRYBABY


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15 September 2008, 19:14
MileHighShooter
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If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter!
15 September 2008, 19:44
ryno
Would this be the first time a hunter has broken their own world record? Or in Dr. Meyers' case, broken his tie for world record with a different specimen?
15 September 2008, 19:53
Doc
quote:
Originally posted by ryno:
Would this be the first time a hunter has broken their own world record? Or in Dr. Meyers' case, broken his tie for world record with a different specimen?


That is a good question. I don't know.


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15 September 2008, 19:55
Heat
quote:
Originally posted by Doc:
And to think I lived in AZ for 3 full hunting seasons and only hunted Coues!

CRYBABY CRYBABY CRYBABY


Sorry to tell you this Doc but the elk here get stupid big too Wink.

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15 September 2008, 20:06
Doc
I know. I never drew a tag though. I kept putting in for unit 10.

I loved hunting in AZ. Took a few deer with the bow.

Biggest elk I've seen were in AZ. Utah is as good or close second.


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15 September 2008, 21:05
Fjold
I think that you can take the word "potential" out of the title.


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15 September 2008, 23:27
Hunt-ducks
WOW I'M IMPRESSED $$$$$

DO IT DIY PUBLIC DRAW AND I'LL BE IMPRESSED FOR SURE.
15 September 2008, 23:36
Atkinson
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad. This one looks about the same size to me, but its hard to tell from a picture. At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.


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15 September 2008, 23:48
Doc
It is by far the largest antelope I've ever seen.


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16 September 2008, 00:08
DesertRam
That thing doesn't even look natural! What a brute.


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16 September 2008, 00:54
Outdoor Writer
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad.


Buy a new tape measure. Roll Eyes

There has NEVER been a verified "world record" pronghorn that came even close to 26 inches, and that's especially so for NM.

The two current B&C #1 bucks (see list below) are Meyers at Right 17 2/8, Left 17 2/8 and Woods at Right 19 3/8, Left 18 5/8. The horns on O'Haco's #2 buck taped 17 4/8†and 17 6/8â€.

Corky Richardson killed this outstanding buck during the 1999 archery season in Arizona's Unit 19A. It is ONLY the 2nd buck ever entered in any record buck that had BOTH over 20 inches long (20 6/8"). It scored 90 2/8 inches, placing it third in the Pope & Young record book and No.1 in the SCI archery book.



Only one other buck, with 20 1/8" and 20" horns, has topped the elusive 20" mark in any of the record books. Supposedly killed in 1899 and now part of the National Collection, it currently is tied as No. 7 in the world.

And Marvin Zieser's #1 P&Y buck measured Right 17.2 and Left 17.4. Both horns on Shelton's #2 measured 17.0.

quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.


And I'm guessing, given that faulty tape measure, it was not close to 18 inches either, Roll Eyes

But hey, at least you didn't claim it came from TX as a result of Conservation Corp transplants. Wink -TONY



Top-10 Boone & Crockett antelope


(Score, hunter, location, year.)

1. 95 0/8, David Meyer, Mohave County, Ariz., 2002 (Below)


1. 95 0/8, Dylan M. Woods, Coconino County County, Ariz., 2000
2. 93 4/8, Michael J. O'Haco Jr., Coconino County, Ariz., 1985
3. 93 0/8, Edwin L. Wetzler, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1975
4. 92 6/8, Sam Jacksick Jr., Coconino County, Ariz., 1991
5. 92 6/8, Sam Barry, Harney County, Ore., 2000
6. 91 6/8, Steven E. Hopkins, Coconino County, Ariz., 1992
7. 91 4/8, Wilson Potter, Location unknown, Ariz., 1899
7. 91 4/8, Bob Schneidmiller, Weld County, Colo., 1965
7. 91 4/8, Donald W. Yates, Garfield County, Mont., 1977
10. 91 2/8, Robert S. Guevara, Lincoln County, N.M., 1996


Sources: Boone & Crockett Club Records of North American Big Game, 11th Edition; Boone & Crockett Club's 24th Big Game Awards; and Boone & Crockett Club website.

Top-10 Pope & Young antelope

1. 91 4/8, Marvin N. Zieser, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1995
2. 90 6/8, Les Shelton, Coconino County, Ariz., 1998
3. 90 2/8, Duane "Corky" Richardson, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1999
4. 90 0/8, Roger W. Clarno, Lake County, Ore., 1993
5. 89 6/8, Kevin Robinson, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1996
6. 88 6/8, Archie Malm, Grant County, N.D., 1958
7. 87 0/8, Garnet Kingsland, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1995
8. 86 6/8, Jerry Bien, Maple Creek, Saskatchewan, 1990
8. 86 6/8, Jim Machac, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1993
8. 86 6/8, Jim Machac, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1998

Sources: Pope & Young Club Bowhunting Big Game Records of North America, 5th Edition and Pope & Young Club's 22nd Recording Period Statistical Summary.


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16 September 2008, 01:17
Kamo Gari
Ray's losing it completely, it seems. Last time it was 'I had a tuffpak 15-20 years ago'. Problem with that story is that they debuted only about 10 years ago. Roll Eyes

Those animals are jaw droppers. Thanks for sharing, Doc.

KG


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16 September 2008, 01:23
Doc
quote:
Originally posted by Outdoor Writer:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad.


Buy a new tape measure. Roll Eyes


animal

quote:
Originally posted by Kamo Gari:
Those animals are jaw droppers. Thanks for sharing, Doc.

KG


You're welcome. Although you could say I'm extremely jealous, I'm happy for the guy. Very nice trophies indeed.


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16 September 2008, 01:56
matt u
doc,thanks for the pictures, those are true monsters Eeker
16 September 2008, 02:13
PWN375
I think all of my antelope have been 26 inches...if you measure both sides. hillbilly

Perry
16 September 2008, 02:31
Silverado
What's a governor tag? Am i the only one that doesn't know. I have to assume they are way out of my price range.
16 September 2008, 02:44
bucko
Just a little sidenote, the fellow sitting on the right is a good friend of mine that I used to rope with, Chad Smith of Vaquero outfitters.
I saw the pic's of this antelope a few days after it was taken and I have been waiting for it to be oficially scored.
Chad runs Vaquero Outfitters out of Chino valley Az, is a great guy and he and his wife Shawn and their team of guides bust their butts for their clients.


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16 September 2008, 02:47
trouthunterdj
Those are beautiful animals. This is just wetting my appatite to hunt Arizona some day. Hope I get a shot..

ddj


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16 September 2008, 02:47
Wendell Reich
quote:
Originally posted by Silverado:
What's a governor tag? Am i the only one that doesn't know. I have to assume they are way out of my price range.


If you have to ask, you can't afford it! Big Grin

Sorry, don't mean to be rude. I can't afford them either.

I believe a governors tag allows the hunter to hunt anywhere in the State. There may be some exceptions. Not sure if there exceptions for each state, or what the situation is.

That sort of looks like Charles Grimmet in that picture with the B&C Goat. Hard to tell with the glasses and shadow on his face. It would not be a surprise if it was. He is responsible for guiding a lot of guys to B&C book Goats.

If anyone wants a B&C Pronghorn, he is the man to go to.
16 September 2008, 02:56
Vinny
quote:
Originally posted by PWN375:
I think all of my antelope have been 26 inches...if you measure both sides. hillbilly

Perry


Same for me, but I would have to have a 4-horned antelope to make 26"..........
16 September 2008, 03:03
ryno
There were 2 govenor's tags for pronghorn in Arizona auctioned this year. Dr. Meyers paid $46,000.00. The other tag went for $65,000.00. shocker
16 September 2008, 03:42
Outdoor Writer
quote:
Originally posted by bucko:
Just a little sidenote, the fellow sitting on the right is a good friend of mine that I used to rope with, Chad Smith of Vaquero outfitters.


And the other guy is Tony Grimmett of Pronghorn Guide Service, who often locates monster 'lopes.

AZ has two types of special permits for several big-game species. They have the auction types that go to the highest bidder, and they have raffle types that any ol' dude can purchase a ticket(s) for. In general, the auction/raffle are conducted by the various conservation groups in the state. Both types allow a special year-round season for most of the state.

I just finished an article on the two elk raffle permits from the 2007 & 2008 seasons. They were killed within weeks of each other at the end of one season in July 2008 for the 2007 permit holder and beginning the next season in Aug. for the 2008 holder. Both scored over 400, with Mullins Outfitters involved with each kill in Unit 9.

The raffle tickets were $25 each. One guy spent $50 and the other spent $100. -TONY


Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer"
16 September 2008, 03:45
mt Al
That speed goat's so big its almost scary. If I saw one I doubt I could hold still enough to hit it at short range. Simply amazing.

Maybe Ray's 26" inches was 13" per side.

My brother shot a "16.5 incher" last year, and sent me the picture. I told him it was 14 maximum. "Nope, the guy told me it was 16.5 inches". I helped him measure it when it came back from the taxidermy; 14.25 inches without much mass and short prongs.
16 September 2008, 03:59
drummondlindsey
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad. This one looks about the same size to me, but its hard to tell from a picture. At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.


Well this explains your scores on Mule Deer

Drum
16 September 2008, 04:03
Kamo Gari
quote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad. This one looks about the same size to me, but its hard to tell from a picture. At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.


Well this explains your scores on Mule Deer

Drum


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16 September 2008, 04:03
Outdoor Writer
These are the two Super raffle elk I mentioned above -- both courtesy of Mullins Outfitters. -TONY

2008-2009 permit holder Robert Dunn with 405" bull



2007-2008 permit holder Clark Guy with 422" bull




Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer"
16 September 2008, 04:19
Wendell Reich
quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
That sort of looks like Charles Grimmet in that picture with the B&C Goat.


Oops, I meant Tony, Charles is Tony's brother.
16 September 2008, 04:22
Outdoor Writer
quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
That sort of looks like Charles Grimmet in that picture with the B&C Goat.


Oops, I meant Tony, Charles is Tony's brother.


I think you mean John maybe? He guides and so does Tony's son Eli. -TONY


Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer"
16 September 2008, 07:10
Wendell Reich
quote:
Originally posted by Outdoor Writer:
quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
That sort of looks like Charles Grimmet in that picture with the B&C Goat.


Oops, I meant Tony, Charles is Tony's brother.


I think you mean John maybe? He guides and so does Tony's son Eli. -TONY


Wow, this is a lot of quotes.

You are right, Tony's brother is John, I think Tony's real name is Charles. So maybe I was right after all!

In any case, that is Tony. He guided Dr. Meyer in 2002 when he took the AZ Buck that qualified for world record. No surprise he is sitting in the photo this year. Tony knows Antelope.
16 September 2008, 07:38
drummondlindsey
quote:
Originally posted by Kamo Gari:
quote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad. This one looks about the same size to me, but its hard to tell from a picture. At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.


Well this explains your scores on Mule Deer

Drum


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And his buff...
16 September 2008, 10:51
Kamo Gari
quote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
quote:
Originally posted by Kamo Gari:
quote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad. This one looks about the same size to me, but its hard to tell from a picture. At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.


Well this explains your scores on Mule Deer

Drum


clap


And his buff...


Which one? He's killed over 100, y'know! Wink


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16 September 2008, 15:37
Fallow Buck
They are a bunch of nice deer/Elk/Lopes, but I'm not much for shooting big heads while still in velvet, especially if you have a year round go anywhere permit.

Itherway it's horses for courses, and they are stunning animals regardles of my personal preferences.

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