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POTENTIAL NEW WORLD RECORD ANTELOPE (AND NICE MULIE TOO)
15 September 2008, 18:44
DocPOTENTIAL NEW WORLD RECORD ANTELOPE (AND NICE MULIE TOO)
Dr. David Meyers shot an AZ antelope that may eclipse his current world record that is tied at 95 B&C. Word is he purchased both governor tags this year and is going to wait until next year to fill his second tag.
The unofficial score is being kept a secret until after the 60 day drying period.
He's all ready bagged a monster mule deer on the strip this year with a governor tag and supposedly has a governor tag for elk as well.
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns
15 September 2008, 18:49
David CulpepperThose are a couple of monsters!!
Good Hunting,
15 September 2008, 18:52
AKsheephunterWOW!!!
15 September 2008, 18:53
graybirdFREAKS!!
Graybird
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15 September 2008, 18:55
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15 September 2008, 18:59
SGraves155I would have loved to see the mulie during the rut. Monster goat.
15 September 2008, 19:05
TheBigGuySimply unbelievable!!!
I never would have even tried to venture a guess that an antelope could achieve triple digit scores. That one could very well score over 100 inches! Hugely long horns, tremendously heavy with gigantic cutters. What a brute!
Absolutely outstanding!
That muley is the kind you could accidently put an elk tag on!
Simply fabulous specimens.
15 September 2008, 19:12
DocAnd to think I lived in AZ for 3 full hunting seasons and only hunted Coues!

Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns
15 September 2008, 19:14
MileHighShooter
If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter!
15 September 2008, 19:44
rynoWould this be the first time a hunter has broken their own world record? Or in Dr. Meyers' case, broken his tie for world record with a different specimen?
15 September 2008, 19:53
Docquote:
Originally posted by ryno:
Would this be the first time a hunter has broken their own world record? Or in Dr. Meyers' case, broken his tie for world record with a different specimen?
That is a good question. I don't know.
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns
15 September 2008, 19:55
Heatquote:
Originally posted by Doc:
And to think I lived in AZ for 3 full hunting seasons and only hunted Coues!
Sorry to tell you this Doc but the elk here get stupid big too

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Ken....
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15 September 2008, 20:06
DocI know. I never drew a tag though. I kept putting in for unit 10.
I loved hunting in AZ. Took a few deer with the bow.
Biggest elk I've seen were in AZ. Utah is as good or close second.
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns
15 September 2008, 21:05
FjoldI think that you can take the word "potential" out of the title.
Frank
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15 September 2008, 23:27
Hunt-ducksWOW I'M IMPRESSED $$$$$
DO IT DIY PUBLIC DRAW AND I'LL BE IMPRESSED FOR SURE.
15 September 2008, 23:36
AtkinsonNot far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad. This one looks about the same size to me, but its hard to tell from a picture. At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.
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15 September 2008, 23:48
DocIt is by far the largest antelope I've ever seen.
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns
16 September 2008, 00:08
DesertRamThat thing doesn't even look natural! What a brute.
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16 September 2008, 00:54
Outdoor Writerquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad.
Buy a new tape measure.

There has NEVER been a verified "world record" pronghorn that came even close to 26 inches, and that's especially so for NM.
The two current B&C #1 bucks (see list below) are Meyers at Right 17 2/8, Left 17 2/8 and Woods at Right 19 3/8, Left 18 5/8. The horns on O'Haco's #2 buck taped 17 4/8†and 17 6/8â€.
Corky Richardson killed this outstanding buck during the 1999 archery season in Arizona's Unit 19A. It is ONLY the 2nd buck ever entered in any record buck that had BOTH over 20 inches long (20 6/8"). It scored 90 2/8 inches, placing it third in the Pope & Young record book and No.1 in the SCI archery book.
Only one other buck, with 20 1/8" and 20" horns, has topped the elusive 20" mark in any of the record books. Supposedly killed in 1899 and now part of the National Collection, it currently is tied as No. 7 in the world.
And Marvin Zieser's #1 P&Y buck measured Right 17.2 and Left 17.4. Both horns on Shelton's #2 measured 17.0.
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.
And I'm guessing, given that faulty tape measure, it was not close to 18 inches either,
But hey, at least you didn't claim it came from TX as a result of Conservation Corp transplants.

-TONY
Top-10 Boone & Crockett antelope
(Score, hunter, location, year.)
1. 95 0/8, David Meyer, Mohave County, Ariz., 2002 (Below)
1. 95 0/8, Dylan M. Woods, Coconino County County, Ariz., 2000
2. 93 4/8, Michael J. O'Haco Jr., Coconino County, Ariz., 1985
3. 93 0/8, Edwin L. Wetzler, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1975
4. 92 6/8, Sam Jacksick Jr., Coconino County, Ariz., 1991
5. 92 6/8, Sam Barry, Harney County, Ore., 2000
6. 91 6/8, Steven E. Hopkins, Coconino County, Ariz., 1992
7. 91 4/8, Wilson Potter, Location unknown, Ariz., 1899
7. 91 4/8, Bob Schneidmiller, Weld County, Colo., 1965
7. 91 4/8, Donald W. Yates, Garfield County, Mont., 1977
10. 91 2/8, Robert S. Guevara, Lincoln County, N.M., 1996
Sources: Boone & Crockett Club Records of North American Big Game, 11th Edition; Boone & Crockett Club's 24th Big Game Awards; and Boone & Crockett Club website.
Top-10 Pope & Young antelope
1. 91 4/8, Marvin N. Zieser, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1995
2. 90 6/8, Les Shelton, Coconino County, Ariz., 1998
3. 90 2/8, Duane "Corky" Richardson, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1999
4. 90 0/8, Roger W. Clarno, Lake County, Ore., 1993
5. 89 6/8, Kevin Robinson, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1996
6. 88 6/8, Archie Malm, Grant County, N.D., 1958
7. 87 0/8, Garnet Kingsland, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1995
8. 86 6/8, Jerry Bien, Maple Creek, Saskatchewan, 1990
8. 86 6/8, Jim Machac, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1993
8. 86 6/8, Jim Machac, Yavapai County, Ariz., 1998
Sources: Pope & Young Club Bowhunting Big Game Records of North America, 5th Edition and Pope & Young Club's 22nd Recording Period Statistical Summary.
Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer"
16 September 2008, 01:17
Kamo GariRay's losing it completely, it seems. Last time it was 'I had a tuffpak 15-20 years ago'. Problem with that story is that they debuted only about 10 years ago.

Those animals are jaw droppers. Thanks for sharing, Doc.
KG
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16 September 2008, 01:23
Docquote:
Originally posted by Outdoor Writer:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad.
Buy a new tape measure.

quote:
Originally posted by Kamo Gari:
Those animals are jaw droppers. Thanks for sharing, Doc.
KG
You're welcome. Although you could say I'm extremely jealous, I'm happy for the guy. Very nice trophies indeed.
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns
16 September 2008, 01:56
matt udoc,thanks for the pictures, those are true monsters

16 September 2008, 02:13
PWN375I think all of my antelope have been 26 inches...if you measure both sides.

Perry
16 September 2008, 02:31
SilveradoWhat's a governor tag? Am i the only one that doesn't know. I have to assume they are way out of my price range.
16 September 2008, 02:44
buckoJust a little sidenote, the fellow sitting on the right is a good friend of mine that I used to rope with, Chad Smith of Vaquero outfitters.
I saw the pic's of this antelope a few days after it was taken and I have been waiting for it to be oficially scored.
Chad runs Vaquero Outfitters out of Chino valley Az, is a great guy and he and his wife Shawn and their team of guides bust their butts for their clients.
(When I was a kid my father used to tell me that God hated a coward, I finally realized he has even less use for a fool.)
16 September 2008, 02:47
trouthunterdjThose are beautiful animals. This is just wetting my appatite to hunt Arizona some day. Hope I get a shot..
ddj
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16 September 2008, 02:47
Wendell Reichquote:
Originally posted by Silverado:
What's a governor tag? Am i the only one that doesn't know. I have to assume they are way out of my price range.
If you have to ask, you can't afford it!
Sorry, don't mean to be rude. I can't afford them either.
I believe a governors tag allows the hunter to hunt anywhere in the State. There may be some exceptions. Not sure if there exceptions for each state, or what the situation is.
That sort of looks like Charles Grimmet in that picture with the B&C Goat. Hard to tell with the glasses and shadow on his face. It would not be a surprise if it was. He is responsible for guiding a lot of guys to B&C book Goats.
If anyone wants a B&C Pronghorn, he is the man to go to.
16 September 2008, 02:56
Vinnyquote:
Originally posted by PWN375:
I think all of my antelope have been 26 inches...if you measure both sides.

Perry
Same for me, but I would have to have a 4-horned antelope to make 26"..........
16 September 2008, 03:03
rynoThere were 2 govenor's tags for pronghorn in Arizona auctioned this year. Dr. Meyers paid $46,000.00. The other tag went for $65,000.00.

16 September 2008, 03:42
Outdoor Writerquote:
Originally posted by bucko:
Just a little sidenote, the fellow sitting on the right is a good friend of mine that I used to rope with, Chad Smith of Vaquero outfitters.
And the other guy is Tony Grimmett of
Pronghorn Guide Service, who often locates monster 'lopes.
AZ has two types of special permits for several big-game species. They have the auction types that go to the highest bidder, and they have raffle types that any ol' dude can purchase a ticket(s) for. In general, the auction/raffle are conducted by the various conservation groups in the state. Both types allow a special year-round season for most of the state.
I just finished an article on the two elk raffle permits from the 2007 & 2008 seasons. They were killed within weeks of each other at the end of one season in July 2008 for the 2007 permit holder and beginning the next season in Aug. for the 2008 holder. Both scored over 400, with Mullins Outfitters involved with each kill in Unit 9.
The raffle tickets were $25 each. One guy spent $50 and the other spent $100. -TONY
Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer"
16 September 2008, 03:45
mt AlThat speed goat's so big its almost scary. If I saw one I doubt I could hold still enough to hit it at short range. Simply amazing.
Maybe Ray's 26" inches was 13" per side.
My brother shot a "16.5 incher" last year, and sent me the picture. I told him it was 14 maximum. "Nope, the guy told me it was 16.5 inches". I helped him measure it when it came back from the taxidermy; 14.25 inches without much mass and short prongs.
16 September 2008, 03:59
drummondlindseyquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad. This one looks about the same size to me, but its hard to tell from a picture. At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.
Well this explains your scores on Mule Deer
Drum
16 September 2008, 04:03
Kamo Gariquote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad. This one looks about the same size to me, but its hard to tell from a picture. At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.
Well this explains your scores on Mule Deer
Drum

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16 September 2008, 04:03
Outdoor WriterThese are the two Super raffle elk I mentioned above -- both courtesy of Mullins Outfitters. -TONY
2008-2009 permit holder Robert Dunn with 405" bull
2007-2008 permit holder Clark Guy with 422" bull
Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer"
16 September 2008, 04:19
Wendell Reichquote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
That sort of looks like Charles Grimmet in that picture with the B&C Goat.
Oops, I meant Tony, Charles is Tony's brother.
16 September 2008, 04:22
Outdoor Writerquote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
That sort of looks like Charles Grimmet in that picture with the B&C Goat.
Oops, I meant Tony, Charles is Tony's brother.
I think you mean John maybe? He guides and so does Tony's son Eli. -TONY
Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer"
16 September 2008, 07:10
Wendell Reichquote:
Originally posted by Outdoor Writer:
quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
That sort of looks like Charles Grimmet in that picture with the B&C Goat.
Oops, I meant Tony, Charles is Tony's brother.
I think you mean John maybe? He guides and so does Tony's son Eli. -TONY
Wow, this is a lot of quotes.
You are right, Tony's brother is John, I think Tony's real name is Charles. So maybe I was right after all!
In any case, that is Tony. He guided Dr. Meyer in 2002 when he took the AZ Buck that qualified for world record. No surprise he is sitting in the photo this year. Tony knows Antelope.
16 September 2008, 07:38
drummondlindseyquote:
Originally posted by Kamo Gari:
quote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad. This one looks about the same size to me, but its hard to tell from a picture. At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.
Well this explains your scores on Mule Deer
Drum
And his buff...
16 September 2008, 10:51
Kamo Gariquote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
quote:
Originally posted by Kamo Gari:
quote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Not far from there, but across the line in New Mexico I witnessed a world record antelope that had been shot that day..As I recall it was 26 inches plus a tad. This one looks about the same size to me, but its hard to tell from a picture. At any rate I shot a 18 inch plus antelope many years ago and he wasn't even close to this big boy.
Well this explains your scores on Mule Deer
Drum
And his buff...
Which one? He's killed over 100, y'know!

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16 September 2008, 15:37
Fallow BuckThey are a bunch of nice deer/Elk/Lopes, but I'm not much for shooting big heads while still in velvet, especially if you have a year round go anywhere permit.
Itherway it's horses for courses, and they are stunning animals regardles of my personal preferences.
FB