Started my 270 to 9.3 conversion. Maybe it will be done fast.

I have a hunt in July for leopard and the ususal PG. Thought about the 300 Win, and of course the 375 H&H, but would you guys who like the 9.3 choose it "above all others?" I have never tried the caliber, but it might be fun, a little lighter than the 375 (recoil) plus, it is always weird how one needs a new rifle for each new hunt.

Whattya think?

I bought a 9,3x62 CZ American from a board member here a couple of years ago. Was planning to take a .338 WM and a .375 H&H to RSA for a plains game hunt. When the .338 scope died the week before I left, had to make other arrangements so that I'd have spare scopes on the rifles that did go.

Ended up taking CZs in 9,3x62 and a .416 Rigby. The 9,3x62 turned out to be a blessing. Light and easily managed in the woods, it took Impala, Warthog, Kudu, Blue Wildebeast, and Zebra without fuss and bluster. Just works GREAT on game.

Would only consider the .375 H&H and larger if dangerous game was on the menu in a place where the 9,3x62 was not legal. 9,3x62s are handier, have less recoil, and are very very effective.

I like the 9.3 so much that I am pretty much finished with the .375 H&H, .338 Win Mag, 35 Whelen and all the .416's.

It's my fave!

Dan,

Shoot me a PM with your address. I lost it in my last move. I have some GSC 9.3 bullets to mail to you.

John Charlie

PS Lois and I will be down your way at the end of the summer.

LD

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Originally posted by 500grains:
I like the 9.3 so much that I am pretty much finished with the .375 H&H, .338 Win Mag, 35 Whelen and all the .416's.

Wow...and coming from a guy that's "been there and done that" that's one helluva statement!!!!

It's the biggest rifle I have. Not for the recoil shy with a 7-lb rifle. But, it shoots and carries well at 8.5 lbs and it holds 5 cartridges.

I penetrates like crazy with the 286 gr. Nosler Partition. More power than you need for deer, and good for anything larger.

Montana Rifle has the 9.3 in stock ready to go, so I'll have it in 2 days....It's in stainless, so I have to coat it. The receiver is blue, but my bolt action is polished metal (s/s?). I like the idea of a stainless barrel, but it may be too weird/unattractive to have the blue/ss combo? Anyone seen this? Pics?

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Originally posted by 500grains:
I like the 9.3 so much that I am pretty much finished with the .375 H&H, .338 Win Mag, 35 Whelen and all the .416's.

Me too!

I have used my 9,3x74R double for everything from bobcats, deer, wild pigs, black bear, to giraffe, cape buffalo and cow elephant.
Not too, too much for the small stuff and just enough for the big.
I really like it and recommend it.

5+1 in a Mauser, kicks like a 30-06, hits like a 375, cases last forever, sub-MOA with Partitions and just about any decent powder - what's not to like? No wonder you can find it all over Africa. If WalMart sold 9.3x62 ammo, I'd seriously consider becoming a one-gun guy. It's that good.


Okie John

I second all positive things said!

But I won´t part with my other guns...that would be to harsh.

Served me well on everything from buffalo erradication culls to problem lion and elephant. Shoot a heck of a lot of implala with mine as well- When you are hunting for small stuff in dangerous game country the rifle in your hands needs to be able to sort out the DG- see report on these forums about Curtis' client killed in Tanzania a while back. A 30-06 in hand is not what is needed to stop a suprise charge by a buff!

Ganyana,

So what velocitiy are you getting from the 270 gr. Speers?

I figure I should get 2500 fps. Loaded some yesterday over a range of RL-15 and will try to chrono today or tomorrow and find out.

I like it a lot

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Originally posted by 500grains:
I like the 9.3 so much that I am pretty much finished with the .375 H&H, .338 Win Mag, 35 Whelen and all the .416's.

500 Grains

I can understand forsaking the 375/338/35Whelen but the 416 is a fair step up if African DG are on the menu?

Having said that I do have 2 x 9.3s! and I would love a 9.3x66 in a Sako 85 when its available

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Originally posted by 404WJJeffery:
Started my 270 to 9.3 conversion. Maybe it will be done fast.

I have a hunt in July for leopard and the ususal PG. Thought about the 300 Win, and of course the 375 H&H, but would you guys who like the 9.3 choose it "above all others?" I have never tried the caliber, but it might be fun, a little lighter than the 375 (recoil) plus, it is always weird how one needs a new rifle for each new hunt.

Whattya think?

9.3, what? There has been quite a variety of different case sizes over the years. My 9.3x64 Brenneke is about 2 weeks from being finished.

Will

Load them to 2440-2450fps (using S335- haven't worked up a good load for them with S355 yet). Basically I zero my rifle for the 286grn Woodleighs at 25 yards, and played with the load until the speers landed about 1" high at 100.

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Originally posted by MLG:

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Originally posted by 500grains:
I like the 9.3 so much that I am pretty much finished with the .375 H&H, .338 Win Mag, 35 Whelen and all the .416's.

500 Grains

I can understand forsaking the 375/338/35Whelen but the 416 is a fair step up if African DG are on the menu?

If I want to focus on shot placement and adequate DG ballistics, a 9.3 is an excellent choice, IMO. But for a stopper, the ball game starts at .458" bore diameter. Even PHs who carry .416 Rigbys will admit this. That is why I classify the .416s with other small bores, such as the 9.3 and .375. As a hunting cartridge, the various .416s are excellent, but they have proven themselves to be less than perfect stoppers.

grains...

does the 375 hawk get the same praise level from you???

yes wildcat ect but performance wise?

not pissing or critical, honest question (honest)

boom,

The 375 Hawk is the ballistic twin of the 9.3 x 62 and I doubt anyone could tell the difference between the two (except when trying to buy ammo or brass ).

If I may add.....the .375 Hawk has better bullet selection and also has the .375 winchester bullets...the 220 Grain flatpoint for double duty as deer hunting.

When it comes to finding ammo in North America.....I'd venture one is equally as likely to find a box of .375 Hawk sitting on the shelf of the hardware store in Elk City, Idaho as he would the 9.3 X 62.....and that chance is 0.0!!!

Things change however if you're in Windhoek!!!

the 9,3x66 sako and 375x66 (unmade but i am sure to be wildcat) is the best middleground i guess. ease of conversion and plenty of 06 rifles to do it on. thanks for the honest reply grains

anyone want to make a 375x66???

Can someone give me the Ballistic Coefficient for the Nosler Partition 286g 9.3 bullet, please?

Jaywalker

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Originally posted by Jaywalker:
Can someone give me the Ballistic Coefficient for the Nosler Partition 286g 9.3 bullet, please?

Jaywalker

I believe it's .482

According to the bullet info on www.midwayusa.com the BC is .482 and the Sectional Density is .307


RCG

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Originally posted by Jaywalker:
Can someone give me the Ballistic Coefficient for the Nosler Partition 286g 9.3 bullet, please?

Jaywalker

B.C. 0.482
S.D. 0.305
found it here

Guess I was a bit slow.....LOL

Thanks, three times.

I'm running it through my ballistics software...

Edited: When zeroed at 150 yards, it's 1.13" high at 100, and 2.87" low at 200. That would take care of anything I'd care to shoot at with the round...

Jaywalker

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Originally posted by boom stick:
the 9,3x66 sako and 375x66 (unmade but i am sure to be wildcat) is the best middleground i guess. ease of conversion and plenty of 06 rifles to do it on. thanks for the honest reply grains

Hi Boom,
9.3x66? Whats that? Why Bother?
Better to get a 9.3x64, it's an 79 years old proven round.
Diversity is good but so is longevity. It will be interesting to see how long the x66 Sako lasts.

All joking aside.
Whilst neither the x66 or x64 are common, at this time there are only Sako cases for the x66, if you can get them. There are at least 4 manufacturers of x64 cases.

oldun...

the attraction to the 66 is the 06 boltface and only a chamber reaming needed. and five down below

i am not sure but it might be able to be made from 06 unformed basic brass. can anyone confirm?

Boom,
I now see the attraction of the x66 it's the 06 bolt face. Presumable there would be no need for any tweeking of the rails of a standard action for a x66 to fuction, but I'm guessing.
I do at times wonder if the extra whumf of the x64 or x66 is needed, certainly not close up, but they do extend the effective range of a 9.3 by about 75 yards which is of some value.
Thanks for posting.

http://www.z-hat.com/images/9.3x66%20drawing.pdf

http://www.z-hat.com/9.3x66%20Sako.htm

order loaded ammo 20 rds for $32

i think fred will make some good money when it becomes more popular for those in the u.s.

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Originally posted by boom stick:
http://www.z-hat.com/images/9.3x66%20drawing.pdf

http://www.z-hat.com/9.3x66%20Sako.htm

order loaded ammo 20 rds for $32

i think fred will make some good money when it becomes more popular for those in the u.s.

Good luck to him and the x66

I`ve been using my Brno ZG-47 with 320 grains Woodleighs for some years and I am very satisfied. I have used it on everything from mooses and bears to roebucks and foxes. I dont use any other rifle. I just layed my hands on an Mauser Obendorf mod A in 9,3x62 after many years of searching!

Hey big Swede
welcome to the AR forums..........It's always interesting to get the opinions of those overseas and a lot of scandanavians post here often.....oofda!!!

Say Hi to Sven and Olie if you see them enjoy the trip thru AR!!

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Originally posted by The big Swede:
I`ve been using my Brno ZG-47 with 320 grains Woodleighs for some years and I am very satisfied. I have used it on everything from mooses and bears to roebucks and foxes. I dont use any other rifle. I just layed my hands on an Mauser Obendorf mod A in 9,3x62 after many years of searching!

Big Swede,

Was your ZG-47 in 9,3x62 from the start, or did it start out as a 30-06?

i dont have one ,but there is many who use them for very much of their hunting . i have a friend who has a 9,3x64 who has seen several tours in Africa and he is very happy with it.
the swedes has been using the 9,5x57(the potato launcher) for moose for many years and up to 150 meters is fine but th 9,3x62 is a very fine one. the 9,3x66 is a leghtned 9,3x62 and the stupid thing is that the bullets has to be put deep in the brass if you are putting the cartridge in a standard receiver.

404,

404, you are going to love your rifle. Mine has a Montana Rifle Works barrel in it, and I am convinced that it is the secret of the rifle's great accuracy.

It is the most versatile cartridge around. It is great for animals from impala to buffalo or whitetails to large bears. Because of its exceptional sectional density and good bullets for it, it will penetrate like no tomorrow. Because of its modest velocities combined with heavy bullet selection, recoil is low which improves shot placement.

I put the 286gr Partition through several animals on my last trip with very little bullet upset, although it was loaded to right at 2400fps and the furthesst target was 200 yards. The most incredible thing about my rifle is its ability to "harmonize" the 286 Woodleigh solid mentioned above, with the 286 Woodleigh RNSP which were dead on behind a one-inch target dot @100yds, when the 286 Partition was about an inch higher, and the 250BT was just at 2.5" high at 100 yds.

The Woodleighs were carried in case the gun was a replacement/backup rifle on buffalo segment of our hunt, and the 286 Partitions were intended for use on larger game (Zebra, Eland, etc.) and the 250's were for smaller antelope at longer ranges. Because of the experience with the 286 Partitions, the 250's and 286 Woodleighs saw more use.

The rifle and loadings worked exactly as planned on my Tazanian hunt taking lion, leopard, roan, sable, wildebeest, hartebeest, bushbuck, impala, and more. The rifle is light enough to carry, extremely accurate (three inch groups at 300 yards is not unusual with 250BT's), and devastating on the receiving end. I came home, and took a very large white tail doe with the using a Woodleigh RNSP. I really like that bullet.

I hope you will be as happy with your rifle as I have been with mine. It is my favorite, my go-to rifle. Kudude

PS: After hearing what Ganyana had to say about 9.3 penetration on elephants, I am tempted to take mine as a back up to my 416 rather than my 425!

From my 9.3x62 I use 258grn RWS M-MANTLES, 286grn WOODLEIGH softs and solids, 293grn RWS TUG's and 300grn SWIFT A FRAMES.
Imo the 300MAG is altimate for Leopard but with other big game often around in most Leopard country it would be wise to carry enough gun to suit.
The 9.3 H MANTLES and Woodleigh RN Softs would be excellent for Leopard.
ozhunter