you're walking on a beach and find a bottle....rub it and a genie appears and says....Congratulations....you're King for the day and any decision you make will stand for decade or more.

You can name three cartridges to become commercial ammo and available at the local hardware store but for each one you must obsolete two.

What's going to be new.....and what's to be obsoleted?

my new ones are:
6.5-06
.338-06
.375 Taylor

To be obsoleted:
.220 Swift.....again
.17 Remington
all four WSMs

Somewhat similar thoughts to Vapodog (must be a Nebraska thing)...

Commercially available at your local Wally World:
6.5x284
.338-06
.41 Special (handgun)

Obsolete:
.22 Hornet
.32 H&R Mag
All SAUMs

Oh and by special decree: No cell phone usage while driving, offenders will have their ears lopped off !

I agree with your new ones except instead of a 338-06 how about a 8.5x57 ? ( 338 bullet in a 8x57 case) Isn't the 338-06 A Square a factory round?

Obsolete?

Well I'm tired of people ranting about the 270. It's good, but hey, people can be tiresome when praising it. (don't tell me, I know, it's a great round, this is a fantasy after all), anyway the 6.5-06 is IMHO better.
The 8mm Rem mag.
The 458 Win mag.

Lets see.

6mm-284 Loaded with a good 100gr or 95gr bullet
358 Norma mag I know it was chambered at one time
323 Hollis loaded with a good 200gr bullet.

Discontinue
260
and all the WSM WSSM and Remington short mags too.

John

quote:

323 Hollis loaded with a good 200gr bullet.

What in tarnation is that????

It is a 308 Norma mag necked up to 8mm. It is one hell of a round. I'm able to get 3200 FPS with a 200gr slug. This is done with 79.0gr H4831 and my rifle has 25 1/2 inch barrel too.

John

Boy,

Aren't we all hasty to condemn somebodies pet pig to purgitory. Jeez whats wrong with the 22 hornet? I don't need a 260 but somebody for sure likes it. And the 270 fans might be aggragant minions of Jack O Conner, again why obsolete it?

Sure I have rounds I see no earthly use for, the 350 Rem Mag comes to mind, the 6.5 on the same case isn't much better, and I never figured out what a 25-35 was good for: not accurate enough in lever guns for varmits, not powerful enough deer what is it good for possums?

Anyway,

Rounds I would like to see, are a 400 Whelen that really worked and didn't have headspacing issues. let call it the 400 Whelen modified. Second would be a not so short WSM case ( 30-06 length cartridge ) in a 375. Does this exist anywhere except my head? And the 6.5x284 which just might get to factory on its own merits yet.

But most importantly my favorite 30 mag the 30-338 which is my first choice.

But all the ammo in the world won't help if factory rifles aren't made, what does that get us, but a almost wildcat.

Don't you dare make my 260 obsolete I have a very nice lightweight short and nimble custom rifle chambered in that caliber and I have to fight my wife for using it cause she loves it too.

quote:

Originally posted by 323:
Lets see.

6mm-284 Loaded with a good 100gr or 95gr bullet
358 Norma mag I know it was chambered at one time
323 Hollis loaded with a good 200gr bullet.

Discontinue
260
and all the WSM WSSM and Remington short mags too.

John

Discontinue the 260???? what kind of Oregonian are you there 323! And I thought you had a good head on your shoulders there supertroop!

Sure it must have been a typo.. sorry for jumping to conclusions!

cheers
seafire

quote:

my new ones are:
6.5-06
.338-06
.375 Taylor

To be obsoleted:
.220 Swift.....again
.17 Remington
all four WSMs

Hard to find anything wrong with your choice of new factory rounds. Course you cheated the genie with the "all four WSM's" and now he's only gonna give you a 22 short!

New standard factory rounds:

460 G&A
7mm JRS
338-06 AI

I'd like to obsolete:

22 Hornet
300-378 Wby.
338-378 Wby.

AD

make available rifle and ammo for the [LIST]6.5x54

250-3000

7mmX41

Dump all the short fat, short necked nonsence. roger

Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..

quote:

Discontinue the 260???? what kind of Oregonian are you there 323! And I thought you had a good head on your shoulders there supertroop!

Sure it must have been a typo.. sorry for jumping to conclusions!

Sorry there High Speed Low drag but the good ol 6.5 swede will do what the 260 will do all day long with know problems and short actions a overrated anyhow. What they also need to do is start chambering the 6.5-284 that round will kill the 260 and probaly the swede to. Load it with a good 120gr something bullet and a good 140 and one would have an all purpose deer and elk round with a good a 140gr slug.

John

Fully commercialized:
.17 Mach IV
.338-06
.500 A-Square


Obsoleted:
.240 Wby.
8x57
.45-70 (Again)

George

quote:

Originally posted by GeorgeS:
Obsoleted:
.240 Wby.
8x57
.45-70 (Again)

George

There's going to be trouble in the kingdom when your subjects discover their 8MM mausers are "kaput"

The .240 weatherby?...Hell we can get along fine with all the weatherby cartridges obsoleted. There's not a one of them worth the extra powder to make them work over their parent cartridges.

Make the Hornet obsolete?

You men should not blaspheme here.

375-404 saeed
338 lapua
416 rigby

460 wby
338-378
30-378
378 wby
218 bee (sorry just had to name a small one)
458 win mag

available at wallyworld
470 mbogo
550 express

at speciallty stores
376 steyr
550 flanged

and barnes makes whatever bullet i happen to email them on, for 10cents each!!!

jeffe

schromf,
Why so serious this is hardly a serious proposition?
If one were King, and one were so inclined, banning the 270 would be a great ammount of fun. It would be like banning the Democrats, (which are not as important as the 270), a lot of people would complain but it would be grand watching the reaction to the announcement.
One of the perks of being king is autocratic power. It's 'cus such power currupts we don't have them much any more.
Anyway the 270 would be reinstated the next day, much worse though, so would the Democrats.

Mass produce the 6.5/284 and something that resembles a 358/300 Dakota.

Put the Kabosh on the 7mm STW and 30/378.

Or another step in the right direction would be to make an entire line of non belted cartridges like the 300 Dakota, 376 Steyr Etc. and kill everything with a belt that doesnt end with H&H.

quote:

It would be like banning the Democrats, (which are not as important as the 270),

I got to be careful though I am behind enemy lines in Kalifornia @ the moment.

I see our friends in New Zealand understand democrats very well......

on the shelf at the local store

6.5 grendle
6.5-06
6.5/284
(kinda partial to the .264's)

to go away and never be heard from again

25 auto
those 17 cal rimfires

Why all the dislike over the WSM's., mine is a tack driver?

Cripes, you guys have banned every gun in my safe, except the old 760 in 30-06 passed down to me by Dad.


No Wait........Has anyone mentioned my beloved 264?


Yep, all belted mags other than H & H.


Gosh, I hate to have to go back to shooting a 30-06 again after kicking the habit ten years ago.

I just wish I could get ammo for the 6.5x55, 7x57, and 9.3x62 at all Wal-Marts. I would keep all of the other ammo and have them dump all of the fishing stuff instead.

What's it cost to have your .270 bored out to .280?

Like the idea of a .06 length no-belt mag,
Got to have 338.06 at wally world, and also let's have a big boy 416 rigby?


See ya-- 240 Weatherby, 460 Weatherby, and all the SAUMS (I like the Win. SM's)

OH and I think we could get broad support for the cell phone thing!

Keep the 300WSM, 416 Rem, and 22-250

Ditch the .270 Win, .243 Win, 25-06, .223 Rem, 22 Hornet, and .204 Ruger.

That'll teach you to ask for an opinion from the masses!

CDH


Thank's that is funny!

How is it that Democacy can give us the best of worlds and the worst of worlds?
S'pose it depends on which party wins the election.

Add 257 Ackley Improved and 6.5-06 Improved Ackley

Dump 30-06, 270, and every 7mm everywhere

quote:

7mm everywhere

I'd tell Barbara Eden to just deposit two trillion dollars in my bank account. Rifles and cartridges come and go, there is only one Barbara Eden and with two trillion, you could hunt and shoot 24/7 on the income off the income.

.505 GIBBS
.400 TEMBO
.333 Jeffery Flanged

Obsolete.
.460WBY
30-06
All Short magnums

Husky

get rid of 7mm rem mag, oh hell, git rid of all mag cartridges including the wssm's, wsm's and the like.

have the 250-3000 savage, 257roberts, 6.5x55 more readily available. And while we are at it Savage will begin producing the Savage 99's again, Winchester will go back to making the model 88, winchester will also go back to making great quality rifles like they did pre 1964, Ruger will begin putting the safety in the right place as they use to--on the tang, and warnings will no longer be engraved on barrels, or at least not where they are visible, and all this "extra" safety junk like the cross bolt safety will GO AWAY!!

Don't you dare curse the .260!!! I love it!
Ooooppsss, I like the .270 too.

But - how about making the .257 Roberts and 7x57mm easier to find, and another run of 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer? Legitimize the 6.5-06 too.

Obsolete? How about the SAUMs and RUMs?

quote:

Originally posted by schromf:

quote:

It would be like banning the Democrats, (which are not as important as the 270),

I got to be careful though I am behind enemy lines in Kalifornia @ the moment.

Kalifornia isn't so bad, once you have escaped!
(speaking as a Kali escapee!)
LLS

I schrompf, (I spelled it wrong i am sure)
I.ll give you 3 I would like to see legitimized,
.6.5 X .284,
.358 STA.
375 JDJ,(in a marlin lever) !
Can,t throw any out, why would i want to !
IF somebody wants to shoot a .218 BEE or a .22 remingto jet it don't bother me one little bit !!! ...tj3006

OK, here goes:
Keep
6.5x284 easily attainable factory 120 grain loads
8mm/06
.17/30 M1 Carbine What a fun reloadable gun that would be.

Lose
270
6.8SPC
7 STW
500 S&W If it hurts that bad, what's the use?
22 Hornet Get a "K"
Anything Ultra Since I have only one left, pick one.

OK

NEW:

7.5x55 Swiss in 150 and 180 grains
8x57 loaded to European max. in 200 grains
6.8 SPC in 130 grains

OBSOLETED:

7 RSAUM
30 RSAUM
30-30 Accelerator
30-06 Accelerator
7 RUM
30 RUM
338 RUM
375 RUM

New:
6.5-06
358 Norma


Out with the: .243