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Agree about the .260 being uncool. I had a Savage heavyweight target rifle in this caliber, sold it to a young new shooter and he promptly whipped my ass with it in a 600-yard match. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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There are no uncool cartridges, just uncool people. Leo The only way to know if you can do a thing is to do it. | |||
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Any of the WSMs, WSSMs, or the RSAUMs. When you need it and don't have it you'll be singing a different tune. | |||
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Man, this thread is amazing, so many of you are SO WRONG! I agree on the 25-06, what the hell does it do the 257 does do looking better the whole time? I'd say first sign of a cartridge sucking, can't get hornady superformance ammo for it Anything ackley improved (Yes, I have one, and damned if it hadn't been done before it was given to me I'd never have done it). Weatherby's with double radius shoulders, fugly and therefore uncool. the coolest cartridges? Anything where holding a couple in your hand could look like your getting ready to smoke a couple cigars or cigarillos at least, 416 rigby, 500 jeffery, 505 gibbs, 450 rigby, 458 lott. Also anything with that beautiful soft taper, 375 H&H. Anything that's been around forever and nothing in the same size since has done anything significantly better, 06, 7x57, 375H&H, all the newtons that are now being "copied" by major manufacturers who will not be named. Contender for most cool? 45acp baby, aweesome. Red My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them. -Winston Churchill | |||
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Revenge of the .260 !! AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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+1 not a 30 cal fan either, but I have no rea reason. Just don't like it. Also don't care for any of the WSM, WSSM, Ultra mags, RASUM, RCM, etc. Just can't warm up to them. **************** NRA Life Benefactor Member | |||
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Proof positive beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ken.... "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so. " - Ronald Reagan | |||
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OK, here goes. Any rifle cartridge that says "magnum" on it. The name alone is just stupid. Any rifle cartridge that you have to "work up to" or "get used to" the recoil. Only humans are dumb enough to put themselves in pain, just to get used to more pain. Any Ruger cartridge. Please. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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You know, I read all this thread and what I can deduct is that, now and then, there is another cartridge that is being introduced to do the job older cartridges have been doing very well for years before them, and then us (mugs!) have to rush to buy them... The idea that a new case for a 6.5mm bullet will improve on the performance of the 6.5x55 is indeed a case in point...6.5x47, .260Rem are the new kids on the block that claim to perform so much better because they are on a short action...So what? they are not more accurate, nor do they kill easier/better/faster/bigger... I give up...6.5x55, 7x57, .308Win is all I will be shooting at game with, and (just so to prove that I also have 'uncool' tendencies) I will be using the .204Ruger and the 6mmBr on all the rest of the stuff... Finman better have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.... | |||
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Most of this thread was 260 bashing and 6.5 Swede promoting. From what I have read they both shoot the exact same bullets to the same velocities. How can one be better than the other? Same thing with a 250 Savage and The 257 Roberts, same bullets, same velocities. Why is the "Bob" the better cartridge? I think the word Magnum is very over used. Magnum just means it kicks way to much. Belts were always a bad idea. Most of the new cartridges are just old ballistics in a new package. Leo The only way to know if you can do a thing is to do it. | |||
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I don't get the 260 bashing. Nothing built off the 308 cartridge is bad except the 243. The 260 is a much better cartridge than that sorry excuse for a dual purpose round (243) I even own a Swede. The Swede looks much sexier but they are essentially the same. | |||
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Someone beat me to it --uncool guns-NO!!, uncool people -YES!!! In politics as in theology! "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, But the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2 | |||
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Uncool cartridge..... the one you can't buy or find in a store or camp in Alaska or Africa after paying a fortune for your hunt "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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30cal works just fine on the quarry it was designed for - long pig. | |||
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7x64 (same as a .280?) is a cartridge I don´t need as are the .375 H&H (prefer the 9.3x64) and the .458WM (prefer the .416 Rigby any day). My opnion, not the "truth". | |||
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The most boring cartridge ever is the 308. Not sure I will call it uncool, but boring it is. All the Weatherby cartridges are totally stupid and uncool. The magnum belts are totally stupid in general. I wouldn't call the 260 cool and not uncool either, but it is a very good short action cartridge. The old 6.5x55 is clearly very cool Non Scandinavians tend to underestimate the capabilities of the old 6.5x55 | |||
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In 1958 I bought a like new 6.5mm Japanese Arisaka rifle from a pawn shop and took it to an unknown gunsmith, a man who was later to become my best friend and business partner. Norma ammunition for the 6.5 Jap was expensive and hard to get. A common solution then was to rechamber the rifle with a .257 Roberts reamer to produce something close to the 6.5X57, but for some reason that option did not appeal to me. We finally decided to rechamber the rifle using a .243 Winchester reamer, shortened the barrel, altered the bolt handle, drilled and tapped the action for scope mounts and added a $15.00 Fajan sporter stock, and I had my first center fire hunting rifle. "Hunting " at that time consisted largely of crow and ground hunting, and a number of both fell victim to that rifle, sporting at the time a Unertl 1" target scope. The 6.5X.308, as we called it, despite its extremely fast 1-7.5" twist, shot any kind of bullet from 95 grain Normas to 160 grain Hornadys with equal aplomb. I liked it so much that I later had a much nicer rifle made in the same caliber, using an Oberndorf Mauser action, part of a trio of rifles I had built in caliber .358 Winchester, 6.5X.308 and .308. Later, when restrictions were removed on the caliber of center fire rifles used in NRA competition, I had several target rifles built in 6.5-'08, as it was beginning to be called. Now all the target rifles are gone, but I still have the old Jap and the Oberndorf, and I'm not likely to part with them any time soon. Of course, the 6.5-'08 is what Remington standardized as the .260 Remington. | |||
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Uncool cartridges 375 Ruger WSMs 308 Win 340, 378 416 and 460 Wby (the 270,300 and 375 Wby are cool IMO) 458 Lott (why when there's a 458 Win and a 470 Capstick?) Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I never met a cartridge I didnt like (in some fashion or another). The only uncool thing about cartridges is when they become discontinued. Want to get my attention with a "New" cartridge offering? Bring back a 45/90 Sharps in a Browning high wall or a 348 Winchester in a model 71.. There are no uncool cartridges.. (although I still cant seem to warm up to the short, fat thing. Someting about deliberatly denying oneself of an extra round in the mag seems counter productive..) AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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300 Remingtom SAUM "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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Anyone who rags on a 260 hasn't spent much time with it.... Owning many of the other cartridges that might be mentioned here... I hunt with the 260... and do quite well with it... from a bear at 40 yds to multiple deer at 300 plus yards...with recoil low enough, that with a scope on 4 power, I never lost sight picture on the deer, with cooperated with a nice bang flop.... I own four rifles chambered in 260, and have 3 more barrels that are yet to be mounted...saving them to go on the current rifles when there barrels go south, if they ever do... when compared to a 25/06, my 260s will run a 100 grain bullet at 3350 fps out of a 22 inch barrel and 3450 fps out of a 26 inch barrel...and do so with about 20% less powder than a 25/06 would be running to do that with that bullet weight... for all you guys who rag on the 260, those of us who have them just say nothing and chuckle to ourselves as we think you poor guys don't have a clue... | |||
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.45 Blaser 6x70R 8mm Rem.Mag. | |||
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THe 280 and the 7x64 are close together, but not the same! | |||
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I don't understand why people rag on the 260. I was going to buy a Kimber 260 but they stopped making them so I bought a 257R. I also bought a CZ 550 Full Stock in 6.5x55. I love both those rounds and the 260 does everything either of those cartridges do. I will say the 6.5x55 looks a lot sexier than the 260 but they perform the same. | |||
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Any cartridge that can't kill a a zombie or a squirrel. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I agree with Wstrnhuntr, I have never seen a cartridge I didn't like. I certainly cannot say the .270 WSM is uncool when it gives me 3450 fps with a 130 grain bullet and puts them in one hole. How can that be uncool. Just because you don't shoot them does not make them uncool. Good shooting. phurley | |||
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My feelings exactly. | |||
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Boom stick: +1! | |||
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