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Originally posted by PaulH:
I'll still take the 6.5 Swede and not give the 260 a second look.

If I am going to go to the bother of shooting a cartridge the length and capacity of the swede, in an '06 action sized rifle, with 50 some grains of powder and a 24" barrel - all of which the swede needs - I am going get my money's worth and shoot a proper cartridge, a 270win and be done with it...

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The 260rem is God's own deer cartridge. If a 6.5x53/4/5/7 or whatever other crap case never existed, and you were setting out to design a 6.5 round, would you put a 6.5mm bullet on one of those odd, obsolete pieces of crap brass, and run them at 45K psi? Would you feck.

No, but I would load it (6.5x55) to it's potential in a modern action like the 260 is and still not give the 260 a second look.

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Originally posted by Claret_Dabbler:
Amir, I will break out the 30/06 any time I think I am likely to shoot something the weighs a quarter of a ton and up.

In the mean time, the pip squeak 260 shoots 120gr bullets as flat as a 270 shoots 130's, and get's done all I need on deer weighing 30 - 200 pounds on the hoof.

I don't have any "size" issues, and I am quite happy in my masculinity...

Does it?

I mean a reasonable .270 will spit a 130 grain bullet out at 3100fps, the mighty .26- struggles to get 3000 from the same barrel length.

There is also the fact that the most aerodynamic .260 bullet we can easily get, the Nosler BT, is very frangible and wouldn't be welcome on all shoots.

I hear what you're saying about it not being about how big it is but where you stick it that counts, but out there in world, the 30.06 isn't very big at all.

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Originally posted by Claret_Dabbler:

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Originally posted by PaulH:
I'll still take the 6.5 Swede and not give the 260 a second look.

If I am going to go to the bother of shooting a cartridge the length and capacity of the swede, in an '06 action sized rifle, with 50 some grains of powder and a 24" barrel - all of which the swede needs - I am going get my money's worth and shoot a proper cartridge, a 270win and be done with it...

Well, why shoot a 270 when you can up it to 280 or 7x64. Oh and

The 300 RCM. I mean really, how many 30 cal short magnums can the market take?

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Originally posted by boom stick:
In order of un coolness
I'll add more
450 Marlin on top

That just can't be...

not my Belove 450M

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Originally posted by temmi:

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Originally posted by boom stick:
In order of un coolness
I'll add more
450 Marlin on top

That just can't be...

not my Belove 450M

Sorry old boy, this thread is cruel.

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
The use of "cool" is uncool. It was exiled to nerdsville in the late 1950s, where it was taken over and adopted by the terminally unhip.

Ok so the threads should read which cartridges are "tight" and which cartridges are "bitches".

any Lazzeroni cartridge.

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Originally posted by PaulH:
7mm Rem Mag
Any of the RUM
Agree on 260 Rem
264 WM
270 Win
375 Ruger

7mm Rem mag?? You're out of your mind!!

No, but I do own one. . Bought a new Interarms Mark X back in '95. Fire three rounds through it (has iron sights) and there it has sat.

I'll post a pick of it tomorrow.

Practicality always plays a roll in determining popularity. The 260 fills a niche market, mild recoil, flat trajectory, plenty of power for up to deer sized critters.

Conversly the 338 federal lacks trajectory and capacity to deliver any power but is somewhat popular. Go figure?

It can be summed up as this; necking the 308 case down is good but necking it up is bad but if you say different there are those that believe it.

7mm STW

Here's another first deer taken by the uncool 260 Rem. This young man is the son of a good friend of mine who died of pancreatic cancer in late June. My son and I took this youngster out to a friend's ranch this week for his first deer hunt...on day four he connected on a nice eight pointer. This new deer hunter says the 260 is the coolest cartridge ever.

The .260 is a great kid round. Low recoil flat enough trajectory and enough stuff to dump deer sized critters all day long.

Uncool and useless/over the top redundant.

#1 crowned king of STUPID is the .450 Marlin.

Closely followed by any and all WSM's, RCM's, most RUM's and definitley at the top of the stupid list the RSAUM's.

I'm really going to piss ya'll off with this one. The most uncool cartridge is ANY belted cartridge that also has a shoulder to headspace off of. That S.O.B at H&H should have called in sick that day. Rigby, Jeffery, and Newton had it right to start with. That is why I will BOLDLY proclaim that Dakota, Lazz, Rem., Win., and most recently Hornady (Ruger branded beltless mags) have have finally come to there senses and thrown there belts in the cartridge design trash can. Please don't cry, sometimes the truth just hurts a little.

Very Opinionatedly Yours,

Lance

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A friend used it to shoot 4 brown bears, a moose and pigs. It did fine on the pigs but didn't have as much thump as he thought it would on the bear and moose.

He used the 350 grain bullet factory load.

It was 400 grains ......

Cool cartridge is one you can shoot accurately and comfortably at the target you wish to hit at the range you wish to hit it and have the desired results of that hit.

if you are shooting a cartridge that does not fit that description it is you that is uncool not the cartridge.

Spot on man

Was going to post the same comment b
It since you guys was having fun and it's thanks giving .....

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Originally posted by surestrike:
The .260 is a great kid round. Low recoil flat enough trajectory and enough stuff to dump deer sized critters all day long....

There you go, fixed it for you.

I shot a Sika stag a couple of weeks ago, 120gr BT from the 260rem. Range was a little over 300m. Dumped it like a bag of potatoes.

260rem is more than good enough for any deer under lets say 400 pounds at any sensible range.

But then, so are lots of other rounds, the 260 just seems to get it done with so little fuss.

Except on the part of it's users, who are known to fuss endlessly on about how great it is.

The situation therefore seems analogous to Paris in July, great were it not for the Parisians.

The .260, great were it not for it's recoil-shy, terribly vocal proponents.

Gerry, can I get a witness?

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Originally posted by londonhunter:

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A friend used it to shoot 4 brown bears, a moose and pigs. It did fine on the pigs but didn't have as much thump as he thought it would on the bear and moose.

He used the 350 grain bullet factory load.

It was 400 grains ......

Big and slow eh?

I mean if looks could kill the .45 Blaser would be right up there....

307 TC

25 wssm
30- 378
ALL RUM's
most short Mags

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Originally posted by mikem0553:
25 wssm
30- 378
ALL RUM's
most short Mags

I couldn’t agree more……ooh…and add the new Ruger RCM !

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Originally posted by Claret_Dabbler:

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Originally posted by surestrike:
The .260 is a great kid round. Low recoil flat enough trajectory and enough stuff to dump deer sized critters all day long....

There you go, fixed it for you.

Agreed...

Funny, most "new" cartridges seem to be identical on paper to "old" cartridges, those that have been around at least 50 years, some now over 100!

Even within the group of old stuff there is considerable redundancy and often no real difference in performance.

I used a 270Win and a 7x57R to hunt deer with this year, both worked perfectly. Frankly, I could have used just the 7x57R and not looked back. All the deer dropped with one shot, none went more than a few yards.

There are some really "Worthless as tits on a boar hog" (WATOBH) cartridges out there, the result of ideas spawned in the sales department I suspect. Most of these are responses to the common miss aligned thought process I call "liking the IDEA of (whatever)" As an example I might "like the idea of a light weight, low recoiling rifle for deer hunting at moderate ranges". So, say the sales guys at (fill in the name of any firearms manufacturer), say to the manufacturing dept, "Let's build one, but lets also not forget that ammunition sales are important so, let's do everything we can to avoid using an existing chambering."

Just look at all the WATOBH stuff that has been spawned from the minds of the marketing department in the last few years. The 338 Fed is my favorite, Weatherby was the obvious leader in Bravo-Sierra marketing and so deserves a special mention for it's entire product line, then there is the 260 Rem, 280 Rem AI, all the Rem SAUM's, all the WSM, and let's not forget the ultimate cartridge missed abortions the Winchester Super Short Mags.

Fact is, you can name just about any cartridge and find something that "will do the same thing" with the same weight bullet at the same velocity and the same level of practical accuracy.

The sad fact is that a 223 Rem, a 30-06 and a 375H&H will cover everything you will ever want to shoot 99% of the time. All other cartridges are redundant or provide inconsequential "improvements" over the "Holy Trinity". Throw in a 22LR and a 12ga and you are now actually covered for everything.

What a depressing thought...

Good post HM.

If I might be so bold my only slight criticism of it is that you appear to have failed to emphasise just how girly the .260 Remington is.

Other than that minor detail, excellent post.

Seems like ghubert you are starting a new classification for shooters and cartridges

260 shooters are XXY

Is that what you are saying ? ....

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Originally posted by Ghubert:
Good post HM.

If I might be so bold my only slight criticism of it is that you appear to have failed to emphasise just how girly the .260 Remington is.

Other than that minor detail, excellent post.

Amir, you are developing a fixation old boy.

You should consider seeking some therapy, it is starting to effect the small amount of sanity you still have.

The wiener factor of recoil tolerance is highly variable and depends on the point of reference of the critic. I was re-reading John Hunter's Hunter last night where he berates a client for using a totally inadequate .416 on buffalo because of the client's lack of ability to handle the recoil of a .500 NE. Given his time that had to be a 416 Rigby, hardly what most would argue as a wiener caliber for any purpose.

No, the 260 Rem is just a marketing ploy. You've got a 308 win, you have to make short actions for it, it seems a shame to waste all that neat equipment on just one round...so, .243 (another do it all, but not really that well, caliber) then the 7mm/08 what? why? Humm, what's left, well how about 6.5mm (No, Americans don't always react well to metrics) OK call it 264, no that's cursed by the 264 Win Mag mistake... Ah, ha! 260!

Ta-da! Yes it will do everything a 270 will in a shorter action, lighter weight rifle! Ta-da! Well, OK not really, but it could. It's the same as the "proven" 6.5x55, like anyone who cares doesn't already own a 6.5x55...

I worked sporting goods when I was in college and guess what, there are people who buy a new rifle every year for hunting season, usually the week before the season opens, occasionally the night before...

If all goes well the new wonder rifle/caliber is the one and only Holy Grail. If not, then "off with their heads" at Remington, Winchester etc.

Remember the principle that gets Democrats re-elected in their districts year after year... "If your life sucks, it's someone elses fault... pick me and I'll make it right for you."

If that 270 Win missed that giant buck it must be because:
Trajectory is not flat enough.
Velocity is too high.
It doesn't "buck the brush" well.
Bullet diameter is too large or too small.
Bullet weight is too much or not enough.
Rifle is too heavy or too light.
Barrel is too long or too short.
Stock is too shinny or doesn't have enough finish on it so it warped.
One thing not mentioned is the total lack of familiarity with the weapon itself, the ballistics of the cartridge, or a absolute total lack of practice on the part of the shooter. After Goober and his other brother Goober run through the 30 caliber offerings they will be looking for a new "answer". Remington etc. will be there with an assortment of "answers" for every question.

Soon enough, there will be much ado about nothing swirling around the "New, Improved 25 caliber bullet in a 308 case" Touting this round as the "ideal" round for those that "like the idea of a 25 caliber bullet in a 308 case"...

Here's my uncool 7mm Rem.

Why a 260 Rem? Why not a 270-08?

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Originally posted by PaulH:
Why a 260 Rem? Why not a 270-08?

A 27/08 would be the dogs nuts. I would loved one.

I have killed more stuff with the 270 win than everything else it together.

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Originally posted by Claret_Dabbler:

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Originally posted by Ghubert:
Good post HM.

If I might be so bold my only slight criticism of it is that you appear to have failed to emphasise just how girly the .260 Remington is.

Other than that minor detail, excellent post.

Amir, you are developing a fixation old boy.

You should consider seeking some therapy, it is starting to effect the small amount of sanity you still have.

I'm as sane as the next man and considerably more sane than this pair

uncool = anything you find at walmart ( that being said I have a few uncool in my safe)

I love the 260, it's a great long distance target round and deadly on anything up through deer size animals.

7mm Rem mag - the most overrated magnum around. Best thing one can do with the 7mm Rem Mag is turn the brass into either 257 or 270wby cases

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Originally posted by RiverBear:
uncool = anything you find at walmart ( that being said I have a few uncool in my safe)

The most "uncool" has to be a .308. It is too easy to load for, is way too efficient, kills anything that an 06 will, has tremendous availability of brass and factory ammo and resides in short, light rifles. That is just plain not cool!