I shot 31 rounds of 35 Whelen today over the Chrono.

The barrel is 24 inches. The temperature was 40 degrees. I ran home in between rain showers and just did the best I could off a Bog Pod tripod at 100 yards.

The chrono is a magneto speeed bayonet style.

The loads were Nosler Trophy Grade 225 Accubond, Superior 250 Partition, and Superior 275 Woodleigh Welcore PP.

I did not do any sight adjustment. I just adjusted the hold for where the bullets were falling.

225 Accubonds: I shot 20 rounds of 225 grain Trophy Grade Accubonds. The low speed was 2680 fps. The high speed was 2745. This box is slower than the last box I shot which did not drop below 2782 and a high of 2801. Seems to be an accurate load. My stand up blasting had two groups one with 7 shots in the same hole and one with 4 shots in the same hole. All vital hit kills.

275 Woodleigh Superior: This is a very slow load in my rifle. The five rounds would bbe hard pressed to average 2250. The fastest was 2260. The slowest was 2239. These shot very low. Holding for the center bull would not put them on paper. There was a nice 1.5 inch group center favoring left off six o’clock right below the paper.

250 Partition Superior: Again, I think this is a slow load in my rifle, but very accurate. The five rounds were in the 2350.-2360 range. Not one round broke 2400 nor dropped below 2350. The first round fell off the paper 7 inches below point of aim. I moved the aim point to the top of the target hoilding to the left on purpose to keep them out of the 225 Accubond falls. This was a good string for me. Two rounds touched cutting a horizontal figure eight. The next two were right beneath the first with the holes of these two shot not touching but almost exactly beside one another.

I love the rifle. It is loud, but has no recoil. Honestly, I have no shoulder complaints or headaches with these mild loads. I could shoot a 100 rounds a time. I could make the barrel hot, but would have to purposely try hard and stupid on a day like this. There is no issues with heating.

I have no idea how Elmer Keith ever got 2450 FPS with 275 grain bullet from 35 Whelen in 1930. I have to suspect he never did.

The scope is a Leupold 2x12 VX6 with firedot that I got for more than half off retail.

I have seen on other forums folks reporting higher velocities than these with all three bullets. I ain’t there yet.

I think the 225 grain load will by data, not necessarily personal preference (I do like heavy Bullets) become the load for this rifle.

Thanks for all that LHyem500.

Good luck in your future development loads!

It would be in the 1990s and I got a Rem 700 in 35 Whelen which I just bought new for the actions. In fact I wanting three Rem 30/06 actions and one magnum bolt face action. I had never tried the 35 Whelen so since they had one I took it as nothing lost since only being bought for the action.

They were 1 in 16 twist.

I forget the loads but I do remember 250 grainers going over 2500 f/s. In fact velocities with different bullet weights were about the same velocity as Winchester factory ammo (Power Point from memory) in the 338 Winchester. Yes, I know the 338 bullets had higher SD.

Actually I developed a love affair with it(but short term and founds its performance and accuracy to be way above expectations.

The 310 grain Woodleighs shot very well at 100 yards. Can't remember the velocities but they were well up there.

Overall it was tops, very impressive. I got got quite carried away with and even bought 300 cases for the things.

The love affair was short but that was only because for all my shooting life I have had the 270 Winchester/300Winchester as the minimum case capacity for bore size or the 375 H&H and up calibres and so the 35 Whelen for me was in no man's land.

it's my personal opinion, leveraged against the 9,3x62 data, that the 35 whelen has been underloaded, in factory form, since the factory beginning

i love 225 bullets in the 35 for NA huntin

This is helpful. Thanks, LHeym500. The 225s at 2750 to 2800 really make my 30-06 seem obsolete when it is shooting 165s at that same speed. At that speed, the Whelen has the same trajectory as the 30-06 but way more energy.

I’m planning to mostly use the 225s in the Whelen I’m having built. I’d probably only use the 250s when Eland, Moose, and Brown Bear are on the menu.

To square the circle, the 225 Accubond going 2700 fps needs to be 2 inches at 100 yards for a 200 yard zero. That load will drop 8.4 inches at 300 with 2346 foot pounds.

At 400, for me things get dicey. The drop is 24.2 inches, but the energy is still 2006.

This assumes 4000 feet of elevation, 40 degree F, and 78 percent humidity.

Do you guys think I got an elk load?

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
To square the circle, the 225 Accubond going 2700 fps needs to be 2 inches at 100 yards for a 200 yard zero. That load will drop 8.4 inches at 300 with 2346 foot pounds.

At 400, for me things get dicey. The drop is 24.2 inches, but the energy is still 2006.

This assumes 4000 feet of elevation, 40 degree F, and 78 percent humidity.

Do you guys think I got an elk load?

Yep. That's an Elk killing load supreme.

I shoot 250s in my Whelen, but my wife shoots the factory Federal Premium 225 gr. TBBC @ 2,600 fps in her Whelen. She has only used that caliber/load on her last two elk, and they were dead at the shot when they hit the ground. No steps taken, no tracking. DRT. Distances were 252 yds. & 80 yds.

Go get 'em LHeym500...

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
To square the circle, the 225 Accubond going 2700 fps needs to be 2 inches at 100 yards for a 200 yard zero. That load will drop 8.4 inches at 300 with 2346 foot pounds.

At 400, for me things get dicey. The drop is 24.2 inches, but the energy is still 2006.

This assumes 4000 feet of elevation, 40 degree F, and 78 percent humidity.

Do you guys think I got an elk load?

Ive used pretty much the same load for some time only with Partition bullets at 2600 fps in my .350 RM. I can vouch for the effectiveness of it. Everything went down in one shot - very quick.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:


I love the rifle. It is loud, but has no recoil. Honestly, I have no shoulder complaints or headaches with these mild loads. I could shoot a 100 rounds a time. I could make the barrel hot, but would have to purposely try hard and stupid on a day like this. There is no issues with heating.

Did I miss it in the article? What was the rifle?

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Originally posted by boliep:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:


I love the rifle. It is loud, but has no recoil. Honestly, I have no shoulder complaints or headaches with these mild loads. I could shoot a 100 rounds a time. I could make the barrel hot, but would have to purposely try hard and stupid on a day like this. There is no issues with heating.

Did I miss it in the article? What was the rifle?

You did not. I posted about the rifle in a prior thread. I was very on the fence about buying it because I have never been warm to the 35 Whelen as a cartridge.

The rifle is a USRA’s Custom Shop Model 70 Ultimate Classic with 24 inch barrel, and McMillian fiberglass stock. You can find the Thread in this Sub Forum with links to pictures.

It is Controlled Round Feed. The Thread with the rifle is on page 3 of this sub forum.

I feel a we bit of prejudice anytime the 35 Whelen, 45-70 or the 338/06 is of mention..

225’s work fine. A good friend of mine hunts everything in Ak. with 225AB’s. I’ve been using a 35 Brown Whelen with the 275 Woodleigh for the last 12 years or so. They’ve worked just fine for me. Killed a lot of bears with that bullet. Last spring I shot a black bear for the dinner pot and used the 310 Woodleigh RN softpoint. That one works too. On Alaskan game I haven’t noticed any difference between the Whelen and my 375 except the 375 kicks harder. Seems to kill just as fast.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if you could beat 2400fps with the 275 Woodleigh and 2550fps with the 250NP. And I’d bet you’re right about Kieth. He probably didn’t.
I hope you enjoy your Whelen. I sure enjoy mine.

The 225 Accubond it is for the foreseeable future. I am going to focus on this load for a while.

Thank you all.

The 250 gr. in the 9.3x62 or 35 Whelen at 2700 FPS is pretty hard to accomplish, wear shooting glasses to be sure!

My 35 W has a 21" barrel and I only get just over 2500 fps with the 225 swift a frame.

With it I have shot Roan, wildebeest, red stag, brown bear and a bunch of smaller animals. I have never needed a second shot.

Wish they brought back the 350 rigby!


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I can get 2450 with 250gr. bullets using 60 gr. of Rl-17. I don't think I want to try for the same velocity with 275 gr. bullets.

I have an old 35 Whelen ion a model 70 pre 64. One of the last guns I would ever get rid of but I haven't use it in years. I used it pretty exclusively for several years but I really like to use different calibers and the Whelen just got boring. I used it on White tail Mule deer and quite a few wild hogs. only used 250 grain bullets and it was just bang flop bang flop bang flop. I never did recover a bullet all were pass through.